Fear not JukeBox, there is a man who epitomises the spirit and character of Senna, someone who has dedicated his life to his craft and defied all odds, he had to overcome adversity from his own team, racist British media, racist F1 fans, dweeps like Massa whose sole purpose in F1 is to block his progress and scandalous FIA!
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
Pil-lock
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Only an idiot would call Senna a Pil-lock
The closest thing we have on the current grid to Senna is Hamilton.
Hamilton doesn't have Senna's ruthless win at any cost attitude though. Alonso's got that.
Ignore the love child, his parents still cry to sleep every night over his existence
Hamilton doesn't have Senna's ruthless win
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Hamilton has, its just that he gets unfairly penalised by the scandalous FIA and jealous has-beens like Mansell and co, whenever he displays this
I disagree tshe, Senna was ready to take people off to win a race, hamilton doesn't do that.
It's funny, Hamilton gets slated for a lot of stuff by people. They didn't watch Senna race, if he raced now he would probably have been banned from the sport
I never liked Senna or rated him as highly as others have.
I could name 12 drivers that have been better than him in their careers.
Senna never flinched at driving dangerously because he felt that god protected him. I think it shows in the documentary that Jackie Stewart takes him to task for causing more collisions in one season than all of the previous WDC's ever did in their entire careers.
The "pillock" was for the writer of the article not the brilliant driver.
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posted 8 minutes ago
The "pillock" was for the writer of the article not the brilliant driver.
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Before you remove the speck of wood from your brother's eye, make sure you take the log out of yours in order to see the speck clearly
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
The "pillock" was for the writer of the article not the brilliant driver.
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the writer of the article was
jukeboxjunkie - Right Enough (U10162)
and I can't see why you would want to insult him.
Whats the matter with you lot the remark was made under the artical made by "pillock" tsheporam_great (U14317)
not anybody else. Is that to much to grasp?
I'm a pillock because..
Internet hardman hiding behind a veil of anonymity.
Pfffft
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
Is that to much to grasp?
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tsheporam_great (U14317) made a posting to the article. He did not create the article. Is that to much to grasp?
The article is about Senna and I would have thought that if you were genuinely interested in F1 (which of course you are not) it would not have been beyond your ability to actual post something more constructive, for example why you think Senna was "brilliant" Is that to much to grasp?
Read my original post and you'll see why I thought he was brilliant.. It's there for you.
I never knew the formula one board was so bitchy
Don't forget this is the same "ruthless" driver that jumps out of his car mid race to try to help a fellow racer after he crashes. For some reason this isn't shown in this brilliant film. However it's still a great insight into arguably the greatest F1 driver ever.
I think he was an incredible human being.. Seemed so full of humility. You sense that even though he took Prost out to win his second world championship, even though he must have loved getting his own back on Prost for the year previous, he still looked like he felt guilty about pulling such a stunt. He looked like he had a pure enthusiasm about racing that most people, who control the sport, don't share.
Ron Dennis is another who champions pure racing and fair racing.
MikeyC (U13720) - He wasn't the only driver that had to do that was he?
David Purley was awarded the George Medal for trying to save the life of a driver who was burning to death while being watched world wide on colour TV.
Check out
Grand Prix: The Killer Years
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmlzni_grand-prix-the-killer-years_auto
Senna was not the greatest. The reverence came after his death.
The following drivers, in my opinion were better than him.
Alain Prost
Alberto Ascari
Emerson Fittipaldi
Graham Hill
Jack Brabham
Jackie Stewart
Jim Clark
Juan Manuel Fangio
Michael Schumacher
Mike Hawthorn
Nelson Piquet
Niki Lauda
the order is alpha by first name.
Senna was the greatest, some of those names are laughable to even be considered in his league.
Which ones did you laugh at?
Only Clark, Fangio and Schumacher come close, so all the others.
Typical of people who believe that Senna was the "greatest"
You were probably not even born when Senna raced.
Apart from Fangio, Ascari and Hawthorn I watched all of the other drivers throughout their entire careers.
You even laughed at Prost a 4 x WDC who should have won 3 more (1983 and 1984 and 1988) but for the strange points systems in use.
I won't bother trying to educate you about the others.
So how many of those drivers have you actually watched?
Haha, love it. Born in 82 I remember Senna in his glory years. Prost was a broken man by Senna. If Senna had lived and drove the Williams up to 97 he would have been 7 times world champion.
So you hate Senna and disregard his talent. Bit condescending to suggest you can educate me based on an opinion most people who know the sport share.
"an opinion most people who know the sport share. "
Is it?
2010 was the 60th anniversary of F1 and all the surviving WDC's were invited to a race to celebrate. They were all interviewed about who they thought was the greatest driver and not a single one of them mentioned Senna. The only mention of Senna was when Prost described him as dangerous.
His reverence came after his death. A death caused by his frustration at not being able to beat Schumacher.
The problem with people that hold the view that Senna was the "greatest" is that they do not bother to study the history of the sport in order to gain a broader viewpoint.
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posted on 25/5/12
Fear not JukeBox, there is a man who epitomises the spirit and character of Senna, someone who has dedicated his life to his craft and defied all odds, he had to overcome adversity from his own team, racist British media, racist F1 fans, dweeps like Massa whose sole purpose in F1 is to block his progress and scandalous FIA!
posted on 25/5/12
Pil-lock
posted on 25/5/12
Who's a pillock?
posted on 25/5/12
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
Pil-lock
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Only an idiot would call Senna a Pil-lock
posted on 25/5/12
The closest thing we have on the current grid to Senna is Hamilton.
Hamilton doesn't have Senna's ruthless win at any cost attitude though. Alonso's got that.
Ignore the love child, his parents still cry to sleep every night over his existence
posted on 25/5/12
Hamilton doesn't have Senna's ruthless win
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Hamilton has, its just that he gets unfairly penalised by the scandalous FIA and jealous has-beens like Mansell and co, whenever he displays this
posted on 25/5/12
I disagree tshe, Senna was ready to take people off to win a race, hamilton doesn't do that.
It's funny, Hamilton gets slated for a lot of stuff by people. They didn't watch Senna race, if he raced now he would probably have been banned from the sport
posted on 25/5/12
I never liked Senna or rated him as highly as others have.
I could name 12 drivers that have been better than him in their careers.
Senna never flinched at driving dangerously because he felt that god protected him. I think it shows in the documentary that Jackie Stewart takes him to task for causing more collisions in one season than all of the previous WDC's ever did in their entire careers.
posted on 25/5/12
The "pillock" was for the writer of the article not the brilliant driver.
posted on 25/5/12
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
posted 8 minutes ago
The "pillock" was for the writer of the article not the brilliant driver.
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Before you remove the speck of wood from your brother's eye, make sure you take the log out of yours in order to see the speck clearly
posted on 25/5/12
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
The "pillock" was for the writer of the article not the brilliant driver.
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the writer of the article was
jukeboxjunkie - Right Enough (U10162)
and I can't see why you would want to insult him.
posted on 25/5/12
Whats the matter with you lot the remark was made under the artical made by "pillock" tsheporam_great (U14317)
not anybody else. Is that to much to grasp?
posted on 25/5/12
I'm a pillock because..
Internet hardman hiding behind a veil of anonymity.
Pfffft
posted on 25/5/12
comment by giggs love child (U4694)
Is that to much to grasp?
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tsheporam_great (U14317) made a posting to the article. He did not create the article. Is that to much to grasp?
The article is about Senna and I would have thought that if you were genuinely interested in F1 (which of course you are not) it would not have been beyond your ability to actual post something more constructive, for example why you think Senna was "brilliant" Is that to much to grasp?
posted on 25/5/12
Read my original post and you'll see why I thought he was brilliant.. It's there for you.
I never knew the formula one board was so bitchy
posted on 25/5/12
posted on 26/5/12
Don't forget this is the same "ruthless" driver that jumps out of his car mid race to try to help a fellow racer after he crashes. For some reason this isn't shown in this brilliant film. However it's still a great insight into arguably the greatest F1 driver ever.
posted on 26/5/12
I think he was an incredible human being.. Seemed so full of humility. You sense that even though he took Prost out to win his second world championship, even though he must have loved getting his own back on Prost for the year previous, he still looked like he felt guilty about pulling such a stunt. He looked like he had a pure enthusiasm about racing that most people, who control the sport, don't share.
Ron Dennis is another who champions pure racing and fair racing.
posted on 26/5/12
MikeyC (U13720) - He wasn't the only driver that had to do that was he?
David Purley was awarded the George Medal for trying to save the life of a driver who was burning to death while being watched world wide on colour TV.
Check out
Grand Prix: The Killer Years
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmlzni_grand-prix-the-killer-years_auto
Senna was not the greatest. The reverence came after his death.
The following drivers, in my opinion were better than him.
Alain Prost
Alberto Ascari
Emerson Fittipaldi
Graham Hill
Jack Brabham
Jackie Stewart
Jim Clark
Juan Manuel Fangio
Michael Schumacher
Mike Hawthorn
Nelson Piquet
Niki Lauda
the order is alpha by first name.
posted on 26/5/12
Senna was the greatest, some of those names are laughable to even be considered in his league.
posted on 26/5/12
Which ones did you laugh at?
posted on 26/5/12
Only Clark, Fangio and Schumacher come close, so all the others.
posted on 26/5/12
Typical of people who believe that Senna was the "greatest"
You were probably not even born when Senna raced.
Apart from Fangio, Ascari and Hawthorn I watched all of the other drivers throughout their entire careers.
You even laughed at Prost a 4 x WDC who should have won 3 more (1983 and 1984 and 1988) but for the strange points systems in use.
I won't bother trying to educate you about the others.
So how many of those drivers have you actually watched?
posted on 27/5/12
Haha, love it. Born in 82 I remember Senna in his glory years. Prost was a broken man by Senna. If Senna had lived and drove the Williams up to 97 he would have been 7 times world champion.
So you hate Senna and disregard his talent. Bit condescending to suggest you can educate me based on an opinion most people who know the sport share.
posted on 27/5/12
"an opinion most people who know the sport share. "
Is it?
2010 was the 60th anniversary of F1 and all the surviving WDC's were invited to a race to celebrate. They were all interviewed about who they thought was the greatest driver and not a single one of them mentioned Senna. The only mention of Senna was when Prost described him as dangerous.
His reverence came after his death. A death caused by his frustration at not being able to beat Schumacher.
The problem with people that hold the view that Senna was the "greatest" is that they do not bother to study the history of the sport in order to gain a broader viewpoint.
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