"For our players and manager, I demand, YOUR FULL SUPPORT!!!!"
"Not been on here for ages as I was sick of the constant plastic pessimism and turncoat hater antics"
Dave
Henry left AFTER delivering immencely for the club.
Fabregas' boyhood dream was to be where he is now and he never hid that. Was always going eventually so I can't be mad at him. I actually wanted us to sell him an entire season before we did.
Adebayor, make no mistake, was sacrificed to keep Van Persie as they had beef which meant we couldn't keep both.
Toure left because the club totally dissed him by giving Fabrages the captaincy when performance and seniority clearly stated him as first choice for the armband and like Henry had ALREADY served the club invaluably.
The fact we call Cole CASHLEY says enough in itself.
Viera, again already paid his dues.before he went.
NASRI??? He PERSONIFIES what I'm on about. Sooo just the wrong name to put in there.
The only one name you've just mentioned that I'm unsure of is Hleb. I can however say for sure that in his time, Hleb spent more time playing than injured so was in a better position to be making demands of the club than RVP.
I never said it was RVP's fault he got injured. My point is that HE NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE the fact he was! By not signing HE'S acting all Billy Big Balls like he WASN'T injured half the season for five years and has produced last season's form every year he's been here and DOESN'T owe the club. And to be honest with the way you're defending his lack of character just to keep our 34 goals (OVER HALF which ANY quality striker would have scored) a season. It really is no wonder that s like him are holding clubs to ransom any time it's renewal time.
D'Jeezus
RVP lost my full support after spitting in the face of the club that stood by him for 7 bleedin years. IMO when he never signed early, he turned on us. He's selling out so there's nothing plastic or turncoat about saying he can kiss my A-double snakes. He should have been in the bosses office signing and pledging his loyalty and gratitude before the season ended.
DON'T FORGET you lot
HE ALREADY HAS enough money to pay for him, his kids, grand kid's, great and great great grandkid's lifetimes. I'm disgusted with him, end of. I couldn't care less if he smashed away 100 goals. By not signing already he's stuck two fingers up at Arsenal WHATEVER THE REASON.
HE IS and forever will be a big fat
D'Jeezus
Also, your quote was taken from an article written when people were just slating for no real justifiable reason. Whinging because they had no trophy. IMO Right here and right now I can MORE than justify calling RVP a big fat
Not at all the same thing.
Yes. What I'm saying is all footballers are just in it for the money. Why have you got this ridiculously high expectation. We should sell all our players, they're all just aiming to further their careers and get more money. Isn't that what you do in your job? Do singers create great songs to be poor?
And half of his goals any decent striker would have scored, fine. That still doesn't account for the other half, unless we're playing 12 players. In which case your argument is totally valid, well done you.
And what proof do you have he's holding the club to ransom? I want him to tell the club he'll sign if they sign some good players. Why is that a bad thing? If anything, thats doing good for the club. Why have you got this witch hunt out against our captain and best player?
Theo can demand more players to sign, as can a few others. RVP has no right. purely because he's already on the list of "better players" but he's been too broken to produce.
Singers was a bad example. I've seen and know PLENTY of singers who create music and sing beautifully because they love music and sing. They're flat broke but they still do it.
This is not a witch hunt. Witch hunts are unjustifiable pursecutions of INNOCENT parties. RVP IS NOT that. He is someone that OWES the clubs. When he's paid his debt then he can start making demands. Til then, he can shut the hell up and sign OR DO ONE!
What can I say, he has upset me. Like no other Gunner in my time tbh. He makes what Nasri done last year look good IMO
I don't consider a shred of decency and bit of loyalty to be a ridiculously high expectation. EVEN when talking about a footballer. Having class is having class no matter what you do
He has been decent. If he truly was a he could be already talking about other clubs and saying he's going to leave. Instead, he's shut up, worked hard for the club and done us a good service.
I'm not sure what Theo has done to earn more of a right to stay than RVP. I've already shown that RVP's done more than Theo despite Theo playing more. Yet he is more worthy of staying?
As well as that, why has he upset you? Because he didn't sign the instant the paper was handed to him? That's ridiculous. He wants the best for his family as well as the club. Your being the by attacking a player when he hasn't done anything wrong. If he does sign now, which I feel he will, is he still a bad person?
And the singers thing I mean the big time singers. I know plenty of footballers who can't play for a club, just like singers who are broke. So when they get a chance to get some more money they leap on it. Why should RVP be any different?
Anyway, I'm bored. You haven't given any substantial evidence that RVP is treating the club in a bad way. You have no reason to be angry at him as he has done nothing wrong yet, and in fact may be trying to improve the club. Grow up and understand that it's not as easy as contract, sign, done.
WengersBodyguard2
I take it youre some kid who hasnt had to live in the real world yet. I've been working for the same company for over 10 years and had some health problems a few years ago it took me a while to get over. I dont think I owe them anything because I didnt get sacked in that time, in fact I would say they owe me for the service I have given. If someone else came along and offered me twice as much money to do the same job, but with better people around me to make my job easier I would jump at the chance as any normal person would.
And as a top footballer RVP hasnt really won anything yet.. He doesnt have long to do it and I personally can understand why a footballer would want trophies and medals. Players who will stay at the same club when they can move to a club which is likely to win trophies are very few. I can only think of Le Tissier, and maybe Gerrard but he won the CL.
Sorry I am Gooner. But 36 years of age here. Worked for your company ten years and been ill?. Ok...Did you spend six of your ten years at your company sick and unable to work? NO!!! That's why you still have a job.
RVP has spent as much time injured as he has playing. And he hasn't won anything yet because HIS broken butt was on the bench all the time AFC needed him to do what he's done last season.
Bring Back Vela
He wants the best for his family as well as the club.
If he wanted the best for the club then he'd have SIGNED ALREADY. In what way is it good to have this speculation running all summer????
He wants the best for his family...
Are you dumb??? You talkin' about the same family that's already got a butt load of money and a future more secure than most of us could dream of??? His family is already more than taken care of several times over.
ALL OF YOU defending that do me and my argument a favour and forget last season. Yeah yeah he done well. But let's face it, he only done what we all said he could have done season after season for about five years. But he was always broken so never did. You're so caught up in th glory of him finally doing what we knew he could that you're happy to let him bend your club over and stick it one.
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posted on 17/6/12
"For our players and manager, I demand, YOUR FULL SUPPORT!!!!"
"Not been on here for ages as I was sick of the constant plastic pessimism and turncoat hater antics"
posted on 17/6/12
Dave
Henry left AFTER delivering immencely for the club.
Fabregas' boyhood dream was to be where he is now and he never hid that. Was always going eventually so I can't be mad at him. I actually wanted us to sell him an entire season before we did.
Adebayor, make no mistake, was sacrificed to keep Van Persie as they had beef which meant we couldn't keep both.
Toure left because the club totally dissed him by giving Fabrages the captaincy when performance and seniority clearly stated him as first choice for the armband and like Henry had ALREADY served the club invaluably.
The fact we call Cole CASHLEY says enough in itself.
Viera, again already paid his dues.before he went.
NASRI??? He PERSONIFIES what I'm on about. Sooo just the wrong name to put in there.
The only one name you've just mentioned that I'm unsure of is Hleb. I can however say for sure that in his time, Hleb spent more time playing than injured so was in a better position to be making demands of the club than RVP.
I never said it was RVP's fault he got injured. My point is that HE NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE the fact he was! By not signing HE'S acting all Billy Big Balls like he WASN'T injured half the season for five years and has produced last season's form every year he's been here and DOESN'T owe the club. And to be honest with the way you're defending his lack of character just to keep our 34 goals (OVER HALF which ANY quality striker would have scored) a season. It really is no wonder that s like him are holding clubs to ransom any time it's renewal time.
D'Jeezus
RVP lost my full support after spitting in the face of the club that stood by him for 7 bleedin years. IMO when he never signed early, he turned on us. He's selling out so there's nothing plastic or turncoat about saying he can kiss my A-double snakes. He should have been in the bosses office signing and pledging his loyalty and gratitude before the season ended.
DON'T FORGET you lot
HE ALREADY HAS enough money to pay for him, his kids, grand kid's, great and great great grandkid's lifetimes. I'm disgusted with him, end of. I couldn't care less if he smashed away 100 goals. By not signing already he's stuck two fingers up at Arsenal WHATEVER THE REASON.
HE IS and forever will be a big fat
posted on 17/6/12
D'Jeezus
Also, your quote was taken from an article written when people were just slating for no real justifiable reason. Whinging because they had no trophy. IMO Right here and right now I can MORE than justify calling RVP a big fat
Not at all the same thing.
posted on 17/6/12
Yes. What I'm saying is all footballers are just in it for the money. Why have you got this ridiculously high expectation. We should sell all our players, they're all just aiming to further their careers and get more money. Isn't that what you do in your job? Do singers create great songs to be poor?
And half of his goals any decent striker would have scored, fine. That still doesn't account for the other half, unless we're playing 12 players. In which case your argument is totally valid, well done you.
And what proof do you have he's holding the club to ransom? I want him to tell the club he'll sign if they sign some good players. Why is that a bad thing? If anything, thats doing good for the club. Why have you got this witch hunt out against our captain and best player?
posted on 17/6/12
Theo can demand more players to sign, as can a few others. RVP has no right. purely because he's already on the list of "better players" but he's been too broken to produce.
Singers was a bad example. I've seen and know PLENTY of singers who create music and sing beautifully because they love music and sing. They're flat broke but they still do it.
This is not a witch hunt. Witch hunts are unjustifiable pursecutions of INNOCENT parties. RVP IS NOT that. He is someone that OWES the clubs. When he's paid his debt then he can start making demands. Til then, he can shut the hell up and sign OR DO ONE!
What can I say, he has upset me. Like no other Gunner in my time tbh. He makes what Nasri done last year look good IMO
posted on 17/6/12
I don't consider a shred of decency and bit of loyalty to be a ridiculously high expectation. EVEN when talking about a footballer. Having class is having class no matter what you do
posted on 17/6/12
He has been decent. If he truly was a he could be already talking about other clubs and saying he's going to leave. Instead, he's shut up, worked hard for the club and done us a good service.
I'm not sure what Theo has done to earn more of a right to stay than RVP. I've already shown that RVP's done more than Theo despite Theo playing more. Yet he is more worthy of staying?
As well as that, why has he upset you? Because he didn't sign the instant the paper was handed to him? That's ridiculous. He wants the best for his family as well as the club. Your being the by attacking a player when he hasn't done anything wrong. If he does sign now, which I feel he will, is he still a bad person?
And the singers thing I mean the big time singers. I know plenty of footballers who can't play for a club, just like singers who are broke. So when they get a chance to get some more money they leap on it. Why should RVP be any different?
Anyway, I'm bored. You haven't given any substantial evidence that RVP is treating the club in a bad way. You have no reason to be angry at him as he has done nothing wrong yet, and in fact may be trying to improve the club. Grow up and understand that it's not as easy as contract, sign, done.
posted on 17/6/12
WengersBodyguard2
I take it youre some kid who hasnt had to live in the real world yet. I've been working for the same company for over 10 years and had some health problems a few years ago it took me a while to get over. I dont think I owe them anything because I didnt get sacked in that time, in fact I would say they owe me for the service I have given. If someone else came along and offered me twice as much money to do the same job, but with better people around me to make my job easier I would jump at the chance as any normal person would.
And as a top footballer RVP hasnt really won anything yet.. He doesnt have long to do it and I personally can understand why a footballer would want trophies and medals. Players who will stay at the same club when they can move to a club which is likely to win trophies are very few. I can only think of Le Tissier, and maybe Gerrard but he won the CL.
posted on 18/6/12
Sorry I am Gooner. But 36 years of age here. Worked for your company ten years and been ill?. Ok...Did you spend six of your ten years at your company sick and unable to work? NO!!! That's why you still have a job.
RVP has spent as much time injured as he has playing. And he hasn't won anything yet because HIS broken butt was on the bench all the time AFC needed him to do what he's done last season.
Bring Back Vela
He wants the best for his family as well as the club.
If he wanted the best for the club then he'd have SIGNED ALREADY. In what way is it good to have this speculation running all summer????
He wants the best for his family...
Are you dumb??? You talkin' about the same family that's already got a butt load of money and a future more secure than most of us could dream of??? His family is already more than taken care of several times over.
ALL OF YOU defending that do me and my argument a favour and forget last season. Yeah yeah he done well. But let's face it, he only done what we all said he could have done season after season for about five years. But he was always broken so never did. You're so caught up in th glory of him finally doing what we knew he could that you're happy to let him bend your club over and stick it one.
WAKEY WAKEY BOYS
RVP IS A
If he wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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