The only weak link in the defence is johnson hence why milner is played to cover his blushes and to suggest cole is weak defensively and then ask for baines to be put in who is even worse at defending is the stupidest thing I've heard. Why don't we scrap fullbacks who are supposed to defend and just slap on some 100m sprinters because that's what you seem to want
OP - Terwatttttttt.
Levy - Even Bigger Terwattttttttt.
So Cole is a weak link but Johnson isn't?
Levy
I think you have not been watching the games at all. G Johnson has been brilliant so far. He was Liverpool most improved and consistent defender in 2011/2012. You like most of the London based media just make your judgement on players from their first caps.
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Ukraine all attacks came from Cole side. Cole kept giving them space with his stupid positioning. If some one was helping others it was Young helping Cole in defence and Johnson supporting Milner is attack. Tell me if I was watching another game.
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comment by jenners (U10869)
posted 17 minutes ago
look who he supports Zabi,
Oh so who I support doesn't allow me to be impartial? Just because you liverpool fans have an inferiority complex and can't accept some of your players aren't good doesn't mean johnson is a good rb he isn't a good rb he's just the same as every other attacking rb who everyone claims is really good at attacking when really they just run up and down the flank like a headless chicken consistently putting in crosses that can't beat the first man and I should know watching bosingwa for the first half of the season.
Oh so who I support doesn't allow me to be impartial?
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not being impartial though are you, cut the crap!!
"The only weak link in the defence is johnson"
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Cole has played very well. I just cannot understand the criticism of him.
The only reason Milner is playing is not because he can hold onto the ball, he can't, it's because he can keep the rigid 4-4-2 Roy likes to play.
The two worst performers are England's wingers and that's no surprise in this system.
Okay then I'll try and speak in a way you'll understand better:
Johnson is the best rb, in the world he's really good at defending, if I was given the task to pick an XI to face barcelona he'd be my first choice, don't listen to chelsea fans and jose claiming he's not good enough what do they know hey?
Is that better for you? Your like a child who can't accept he's number 1
now you are being a c-ock!
anything else?
considering the defence is made up of 2 Chelsea defenders and you don't seem able to criticise them who is really being impartial here!!
Not you that's who. If I'm being biased I wouldn't say that gerrard has been good this tournament and that carroll has been decent in his only appearance considering he managed to come up with the goods.
I'd criticize the 2 chelsea defenders if there was something to criticize whereas with johnson you can mention the fact he was at fault for both goals against sweden.
To suggest Cole has been a weak link in the defence so far is laughable - the defence as a whole has played very well, if there has been a problem anywhere, it's been holding onto the ball in midfield.
As an arsenal fan I have an inbuilt dislike for cole after all the squit, but quite simply he IS in the top 2 or 3 in his position in the world, one of very few players england has that could be considered that.
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comment by jenners (U10869)
posted 17 minutes ago
look who he supports Zabi,
Oh so who I support doesn't allow me to be impartial? Just because you liverpool fans have an inferiority complex and can't accept some of your players aren't good doesn't mean johnson is a good rb he isn't a good rb he's just the same as every other attacking rb who everyone claims is really good at attacking when really they just run up and down the flank like a headless chicken consistently putting in crosses that can't beat the first man and I should know watching bosingwa for the first half of the season.
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That must be the longest sentence ever. I couldn't even get through it, partly due to the never ending sentence and partly due to it reeking of nonsense.
Why don't you go cry to the admins about the mean chelsea fan not saying all liverpool's players are the best in each position rather than taking petty digs at people's grammar
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posted 2 minutes ago
Why don't you go cry to the admins about the mean chelsea fan not saying all liverpool's players are the best in each position rather than taking petty digs at people's grammar
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Petty? Well that's debatable. I don't believe it petty at all. What I believe petty, is some kid with a lack of intelligence coming on here, taking a swipe at a Liverpool player, who has clearly had an excellent Euro's so far, coming off the back of a great couple of seasons for Liverpool, simply as a payback for some idiot criticising a Chelsea player.
In fact, throughout this thread, you've demonstrated how much of a hypocrite you are by doing the things, you complain about others doing.
Doesn't seem so petty now, does it little buddy?
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As far as the right back problem is concerned,i dont believe england has had one who is an international class defender since Gary Neville.
So what hodgson is doing by giving milner the job of covering defensively for johnson is eliminating Johnsons weakness.It wouldnt have mattered who was playing right back,be it Johnson,Richards,walker or even Jones as none of them are good enough defensively to only have minimal cover.
As it is i think Johnson wouldnt be too far away from our player of the tournament so far and i think we have to hold our hands up and say Hodgson was right to take him as first choice.
Dont understand the slating of Cole who has been fairly steady without any useful assistance from Ashley Young who has been the real disappointment so far
Johnson has been at fault for 2 goals in the tournament and gerrard the other (though its not really bad thing considering it was a long shot so hart should have done better). What goals have cole been at fault for?
I don't care if you criticize cole as long as you have a reason to criticize him for other than the whole england backline getting beat by diagonal passes as we were playing too high and the midfield weren't pressing enough.
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posted 1 minute ago
Johnson has been at fault for 2 goals in the tournament and gerrard the other (though its not really bad thing considering it was a long shot so hart should have done better). What goals have cole been at fault for?
I don't care if you criticize cole as long as you have a reason to criticize him for other than the whole england backline getting beat by diagonal passes as we were playing too high and the midfield weren't pressing enough.
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I'm going to regret this, as I'm bringing more nonsense upon myself but do tell, which two goals was Johnson at fault for and which goal was Gerrard's(who was nothing to do with this but for you attacking Liverpool players as a childish payback for somebody criticising a Chelsea player) fault?
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posted on 21/6/12
The only weak link in the defence is johnson hence why milner is played to cover his blushes and to suggest cole is weak defensively and then ask for baines to be put in who is even worse at defending is the stupidest thing I've heard. Why don't we scrap fullbacks who are supposed to defend and just slap on some 100m sprinters because that's what you seem to want
posted on 21/6/12
OP - Terwatttttttt.
Levy - Even Bigger Terwattttttttt.
posted on 21/6/12
So Cole is a weak link but Johnson isn't?
posted on 21/6/12
Levy
I think you have not been watching the games at all. G Johnson has been brilliant so far. He was Liverpool most improved and consistent defender in 2011/2012. You like most of the London based media just make your judgement on players from their first caps.
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posted on 21/6/12
Ukraine all attacks came from Cole side. Cole kept giving them space with his stupid positioning. If some one was helping others it was Young helping Cole in defence and Johnson supporting Milner is attack. Tell me if I was watching another game.
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posted on 21/6/12
comment by jenners (U10869)
posted 17 minutes ago
look who he supports Zabi,
Oh so who I support doesn't allow me to be impartial? Just because you liverpool fans have an inferiority complex and can't accept some of your players aren't good doesn't mean johnson is a good rb he isn't a good rb he's just the same as every other attacking rb who everyone claims is really good at attacking when really they just run up and down the flank like a headless chicken consistently putting in crosses that can't beat the first man and I should know watching bosingwa for the first half of the season.
posted on 21/6/12
Oh so who I support doesn't allow me to be impartial?
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not being impartial though are you, cut the crap!!
"The only weak link in the defence is johnson"
posted on 21/6/12
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posted on 21/6/12
Cole has played very well. I just cannot understand the criticism of him.
The only reason Milner is playing is not because he can hold onto the ball, he can't, it's because he can keep the rigid 4-4-2 Roy likes to play.
The two worst performers are England's wingers and that's no surprise in this system.
posted on 21/6/12
Okay then I'll try and speak in a way you'll understand better:
Johnson is the best rb, in the world he's really good at defending, if I was given the task to pick an XI to face barcelona he'd be my first choice, don't listen to chelsea fans and jose claiming he's not good enough what do they know hey?
Is that better for you? Your like a child who can't accept he's number 1
posted on 21/6/12
now you are being a c-ock!
anything else?
considering the defence is made up of 2 Chelsea defenders and you don't seem able to criticise them who is really being impartial here!!
posted on 21/6/12
Not you that's who. If I'm being biased I wouldn't say that gerrard has been good this tournament and that carroll has been decent in his only appearance considering he managed to come up with the goods.
I'd criticize the 2 chelsea defenders if there was something to criticize whereas with johnson you can mention the fact he was at fault for both goals against sweden.
posted on 21/6/12
To suggest Cole has been a weak link in the defence so far is laughable - the defence as a whole has played very well, if there has been a problem anywhere, it's been holding onto the ball in midfield.
As an arsenal fan I have an inbuilt dislike for cole after all the squit, but quite simply he IS in the top 2 or 3 in his position in the world, one of very few players england has that could be considered that.
posted on 21/6/12
comment by Levy's Itchy Trigger Finger (U7316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by jenners (U10869)
posted 17 minutes ago
look who he supports Zabi,
Oh so who I support doesn't allow me to be impartial? Just because you liverpool fans have an inferiority complex and can't accept some of your players aren't good doesn't mean johnson is a good rb he isn't a good rb he's just the same as every other attacking rb who everyone claims is really good at attacking when really they just run up and down the flank like a headless chicken consistently putting in crosses that can't beat the first man and I should know watching bosingwa for the first half of the season.
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That must be the longest sentence ever. I couldn't even get through it, partly due to the never ending sentence and partly due to it reeking of nonsense.
posted on 21/6/12
Why don't you go cry to the admins about the mean chelsea fan not saying all liverpool's players are the best in each position rather than taking petty digs at people's grammar
posted on 21/6/12
comment by Levy's Itchy Trigger Finger (U7316)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why don't you go cry to the admins about the mean chelsea fan not saying all liverpool's players are the best in each position rather than taking petty digs at people's grammar
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Petty? Well that's debatable. I don't believe it petty at all. What I believe petty, is some kid with a lack of intelligence coming on here, taking a swipe at a Liverpool player, who has clearly had an excellent Euro's so far, coming off the back of a great couple of seasons for Liverpool, simply as a payback for some idiot criticising a Chelsea player.
In fact, throughout this thread, you've demonstrated how much of a hypocrite you are by doing the things, you complain about others doing.
Doesn't seem so petty now, does it little buddy?
posted on 21/6/12
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posted on 21/6/12
As far as the right back problem is concerned,i dont believe england has had one who is an international class defender since Gary Neville.
So what hodgson is doing by giving milner the job of covering defensively for johnson is eliminating Johnsons weakness.It wouldnt have mattered who was playing right back,be it Johnson,Richards,walker or even Jones as none of them are good enough defensively to only have minimal cover.
As it is i think Johnson wouldnt be too far away from our player of the tournament so far and i think we have to hold our hands up and say Hodgson was right to take him as first choice.
Dont understand the slating of Cole who has been fairly steady without any useful assistance from Ashley Young who has been the real disappointment so far
posted on 21/6/12
Johnson has been at fault for 2 goals in the tournament and gerrard the other (though its not really bad thing considering it was a long shot so hart should have done better). What goals have cole been at fault for?
I don't care if you criticize cole as long as you have a reason to criticize him for other than the whole england backline getting beat by diagonal passes as we were playing too high and the midfield weren't pressing enough.
posted on 21/6/12
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posted on 21/6/12
comment by Levy's Itchy Trigger Finger (U7316)
posted 1 minute ago
Johnson has been at fault for 2 goals in the tournament and gerrard the other (though its not really bad thing considering it was a long shot so hart should have done better). What goals have cole been at fault for?
I don't care if you criticize cole as long as you have a reason to criticize him for other than the whole england backline getting beat by diagonal passes as we were playing too high and the midfield weren't pressing enough.
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I'm going to regret this, as I'm bringing more nonsense upon myself but do tell, which two goals was Johnson at fault for and which goal was Gerrard's(who was nothing to do with this but for you attacking Liverpool players as a childish payback for somebody criticising a Chelsea player) fault?
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