My moneys on bruceandpally and mexicanrave being long lost brothers.
In fairness to Man City, they were clocking in crowds of 30k in Division 2 much like now...
It's a Mexican Rave!!!! (U6687)
Yeah sorry i worded it awfully my Dad supports Forest and my Mum is more towards Derby, but once i was born my dad had stopped going to matches very often so i ended up seeing United first.
For the most part, I agree.... the only thing I have always found odd is when people from major cities, with big clubs support a club from far away... eg, cockney reds.
I've chatted to a few at OT and away in Europe and they are massive fans and spend a fortune supporting the club... So no one can deny the passion... I just find it really strange when there are big clubs nearby.
No offence to any cockney reds... Just an opinion.
The Number 7
Oh yeah, i get tired of the 'united team in 5 years' or 'who should we buy' articles as well, i wasn't bemoaning your article just saying what the general consensus has been in the past
Mexican
Yeah i know 'Ilson', went to watch a couple of WC games there and used to play a bit of 5-a-side with some Ilson lads in Bilborough. I was born at the City hospital, if you've ever been you'll know what a miracle it is that i'm even here today
my first game was at the umbro tournament in 96 at the city ground it was forest, utd, chelsea and ajax my two cousins who are utd fans took me and ive been a fan since, even though they didnt win it
BnP which pubs in ilson did u go to?
My moneys on bruceandpally and mexicanrave being long lost brothers.
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Mexican "I am your father!"
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BnP which pubs in ilson did u go to?
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Oooo it was a bit hazy to be honest, started drinking early doors in Notts, i can't remember the name but it was in the town centre, opposite the church, near the bus stops and if can decipher that cryptic message then good on you
sir john warren, its the one everyone goes to watch football, across the road from the old cinema
sir john warren, its the one everyone goes to watch football, across the road from the old cinema
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Just googled it and yes it was, 1 million internet points to you sir! Went there for the USA game which was mental, then to the wetherspoons, 'the observatory' or something, then again for the slovenia game in the afternoon which was a bit more low key.
or 'warren' and 'obbo' to the locals
But united have far more local fans than city, even the sun proved that last week. United just have supporters everywhere from humble beginnings, it's what make the club very speical world wide. As for me, I only live about 16 miles away from OT and when I started watching them I was on the terrace....so easy to get tickets and it was cheap back then!
But united have far more local fans than city, even the sun proved that last week. United just have supporters everywhere from humble beginnings, it's what make the club very speical world wide. As for me, I only live about 16 miles away from OT and when I started watching them I was on the terrace....so easy to get tickets and it was cheap back then!
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That's awesome. My main live football upbringing were dark and cold Tuesday nights watching Blue Square Premier teams or whatever it was called back then. Me, I'll talk football with anyone, I've gone to watch Birmingham in Derby and spoke with Derby fans, D&G fans at Aldershot games, to Blackburn fans at Old Trafford.
All of them sat with a pint and talked football from the CL to PL, no e of this 'local' rubbish. I have honest opinions on UTD, title challenges etc and they did about Championship football, relegations etc and there was a sharing of experiences.
That's what I love, I don't claim to know all about football, far from it but when you can sit with fans in a lower league or a different country (met a huge variety of fans who visited Egypt) and there's no 'know it all' just good, honest opinions and none of this, reducing it to, 'I support my local team carp'
Good stuff and thanks to all the opinions on here, some Interetesting points and reads
I do get where you are coming from completely. To play devils advocate, I woul argue that the most successful teams in any league tend to (not always) be the ones with the largest fanbase, due to the additional revenue it brings in. In that context, it becomes slightly self fulfilling for those "glory hunters", as their club doesn't really get a chance to go through a proper rough patch and see if they still follow them. I would say definitely though, and it is certainly true in Uniteds case, those tend to be te group of fans that slate Fergie when you have lost a couple of games, which I find incredible.
I'd also say that I do meet more United fans that have a tenuous link in to starting supporting them than I do others, particularly now I live in Leicestershire where the two most common shirts are Chelsea and United, with Leicester third. I don't tend to meet as many that have a tenuous link to, say, Gillingham and stick with them.
Each to their own though, as long as you take the rough with the smooth, then ultimately who cares, only an individual will know how much emotion they personally feel about a team. Up to very recently, my life as a city fan has essentially been one long comedic tragedy,, but I wouldnt swap it for the world!
Well said mate
Where does it say in the football supporters handbook that you have to support your local team?
what about someone born in Manchester but decide to support eg chelsea or arsenal would they get the same treatment?
Nice one Melton
That's the crux I think, if UTD dropped into the Championship, would I care? No, season tickets would be more affordable for a start
Yes, there will be people who hop from one team to another based on success but I've never had a good football discussion with someone who gives a rats ball about where you are born to who you support.
I also don't ridicule fans of 'smaller' clubs, bar Liverpool I appreciate I'm fortunate to love a successful team but that's a perk, not a requirement. I love Manchester United as a club and appreciate that Southend, Poetsmouth, Bolton, Rochdale etc fans do too, despite not winning a lot, that's not my reason for supporting UTD. I owe my passion for football to MUFC and can't help my passion for them.
As a City fan, I genuinely hope you enjoy the successes, I have no doubt you deserve them having seem some hard (to say the least) times
You too mate, I have to say I have never begrudged any of Uniteds success (I spent my youth going to old Trafford a lot as well as Maine Road) and last year was the perfect year for me, both Manchester clubs on top I the Premier League and long may it continue. We just both need to do a little better in Europe this season!
well said no7, always wanted to make a thread like this but stopped caring about the glory hunter jibes a long time ago.
It is stick opposition fans will continue to use to beat utd fans with. Jealousy towards utd fans is unreal, just read the comment section on any utd related article. I embrace the hatred now more than anything.
Yeah I'm guess I'm just getting fed up with it week in, week out with fans from all variety of Midlands clubs.
I too embrace the 'Manchester' success, I wouldn't rather meet any team than City in the CL final. It would be electric.
Maybe it's because I'm not local and don't have the 'hatred'
Maybe that will be my next article my POV on Cities rise and what it means to me
I get it too and I'm born in South West London and follow my local team.
I just find Midlanders mongs in general, chip on their shoulders as nobody cares about them
i don't agree with their point of view but i do appreciate it when you get a fan of, say, Gillingham who hates people from their local area who support United, Liverpool or City. If those fans all supported Gillingham, then that club could grow and progress.
But by and large, it's usually a fan of someone like Bolton or Blackburn having a go. And in that case, I don't doubt their love for their club. But they were born on the doorstep of a club who have by and large played at a pretty high level. Would they be as loyal to their local club, were they born in Barrow? There will always be that nagging doubt in my mind. It's relatively easy to support your local club when they enjoy relative success.
Merry, bang on mate, pretty much what my drunken rumblings was trying to come round to saying
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posted on 18/8/12
My moneys on bruceandpally and mexicanrave being long lost brothers.
posted on 18/8/12
In fairness to Man City, they were clocking in crowds of 30k in Division 2 much like now...
posted on 18/8/12
who knows
posted on 18/8/12
It's a Mexican Rave!!!! (U6687)
Yeah sorry i worded it awfully my Dad supports Forest and my Mum is more towards Derby, but once i was born my dad had stopped going to matches very often so i ended up seeing United first.
posted on 18/8/12
For the most part, I agree.... the only thing I have always found odd is when people from major cities, with big clubs support a club from far away... eg, cockney reds.
I've chatted to a few at OT and away in Europe and they are massive fans and spend a fortune supporting the club... So no one can deny the passion... I just find it really strange when there are big clubs nearby.
No offence to any cockney reds... Just an opinion.
posted on 18/8/12
The Number 7
Oh yeah, i get tired of the 'united team in 5 years' or 'who should we buy' articles as well, i wasn't bemoaning your article just saying what the general consensus has been in the past
Mexican
Yeah i know 'Ilson', went to watch a couple of WC games there and used to play a bit of 5-a-side with some Ilson lads in Bilborough. I was born at the City hospital, if you've ever been you'll know what a miracle it is that i'm even here today
posted on 18/8/12
my first game was at the umbro tournament in 96 at the city ground it was forest, utd, chelsea and ajax my two cousins who are utd fans took me and ive been a fan since, even though they didnt win it
posted on 18/8/12
BnP which pubs in ilson did u go to?
posted on 18/8/12
My moneys on bruceandpally and mexicanrave being long lost brothers.
...................................................................
Mexican "I am your father!"
posted on 18/8/12
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on 18/8/12
BnP which pubs in ilson did u go to?
...........................................................
Oooo it was a bit hazy to be honest, started drinking early doors in Notts, i can't remember the name but it was in the town centre, opposite the church, near the bus stops and if can decipher that cryptic message then good on you
posted on 18/8/12
sir john warren, its the one everyone goes to watch football, across the road from the old cinema
posted on 18/8/12
sir john warren, its the one everyone goes to watch football, across the road from the old cinema
................................................
Just googled it and yes it was, 1 million internet points to you sir! Went there for the USA game which was mental, then to the wetherspoons, 'the observatory' or something, then again for the slovenia game in the afternoon which was a bit more low key.
posted on 18/8/12
or 'warren' and 'obbo' to the locals
posted on 18/8/12
But united have far more local fans than city, even the sun proved that last week. United just have supporters everywhere from humble beginnings, it's what make the club very speical world wide. As for me, I only live about 16 miles away from OT and when I started watching them I was on the terrace....so easy to get tickets and it was cheap back then!
posted on 18/8/12
But united have far more local fans than city, even the sun proved that last week. United just have supporters everywhere from humble beginnings, it's what make the club very speical world wide. As for me, I only live about 16 miles away from OT and when I started watching them I was on the terrace....so easy to get tickets and it was cheap back then!
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That's awesome. My main live football upbringing were dark and cold Tuesday nights watching Blue Square Premier teams or whatever it was called back then. Me, I'll talk football with anyone, I've gone to watch Birmingham in Derby and spoke with Derby fans, D&G fans at Aldershot games, to Blackburn fans at Old Trafford.
All of them sat with a pint and talked football from the CL to PL, no e of this 'local' rubbish. I have honest opinions on UTD, title challenges etc and they did about Championship football, relegations etc and there was a sharing of experiences.
That's what I love, I don't claim to know all about football, far from it but when you can sit with fans in a lower league or a different country (met a huge variety of fans who visited Egypt) and there's no 'know it all' just good, honest opinions and none of this, reducing it to, 'I support my local team carp'
Good stuff and thanks to all the opinions on here, some Interetesting points and reads
posted on 18/8/12
I do get where you are coming from completely. To play devils advocate, I woul argue that the most successful teams in any league tend to (not always) be the ones with the largest fanbase, due to the additional revenue it brings in. In that context, it becomes slightly self fulfilling for those "glory hunters", as their club doesn't really get a chance to go through a proper rough patch and see if they still follow them. I would say definitely though, and it is certainly true in Uniteds case, those tend to be te group of fans that slate Fergie when you have lost a couple of games, which I find incredible.
I'd also say that I do meet more United fans that have a tenuous link in to starting supporting them than I do others, particularly now I live in Leicestershire where the two most common shirts are Chelsea and United, with Leicester third. I don't tend to meet as many that have a tenuous link to, say, Gillingham and stick with them.
Each to their own though, as long as you take the rough with the smooth, then ultimately who cares, only an individual will know how much emotion they personally feel about a team. Up to very recently, my life as a city fan has essentially been one long comedic tragedy,, but I wouldnt swap it for the world!
posted on 18/8/12
Well said mate
Where does it say in the football supporters handbook that you have to support your local team?
what about someone born in Manchester but decide to support eg chelsea or arsenal would they get the same treatment?
posted on 18/8/12
Nice one Melton
That's the crux I think, if UTD dropped into the Championship, would I care? No, season tickets would be more affordable for a start
Yes, there will be people who hop from one team to another based on success but I've never had a good football discussion with someone who gives a rats ball about where you are born to who you support.
I also don't ridicule fans of 'smaller' clubs, bar Liverpool I appreciate I'm fortunate to love a successful team but that's a perk, not a requirement. I love Manchester United as a club and appreciate that Southend, Poetsmouth, Bolton, Rochdale etc fans do too, despite not winning a lot, that's not my reason for supporting UTD. I owe my passion for football to MUFC and can't help my passion for them.
As a City fan, I genuinely hope you enjoy the successes, I have no doubt you deserve them having seem some hard (to say the least) times
posted on 18/8/12
You too mate, I have to say I have never begrudged any of Uniteds success (I spent my youth going to old Trafford a lot as well as Maine Road) and last year was the perfect year for me, both Manchester clubs on top I the Premier League and long may it continue. We just both need to do a little better in Europe this season!
posted on 18/8/12
well said no7, always wanted to make a thread like this but stopped caring about the glory hunter jibes a long time ago.
It is stick opposition fans will continue to use to beat utd fans with. Jealousy towards utd fans is unreal, just read the comment section on any utd related article. I embrace the hatred now more than anything.
posted on 18/8/12
Yeah I'm guess I'm just getting fed up with it week in, week out with fans from all variety of Midlands clubs.
I too embrace the 'Manchester' success, I wouldn't rather meet any team than City in the CL final. It would be electric.
Maybe it's because I'm not local and don't have the 'hatred'
Maybe that will be my next article my POV on Cities rise and what it means to me
posted on 19/8/12
I get it too and I'm born in South West London and follow my local team.
I just find Midlanders mongs in general, chip on their shoulders as nobody cares about them
posted on 19/8/12
i don't agree with their point of view but i do appreciate it when you get a fan of, say, Gillingham who hates people from their local area who support United, Liverpool or City. If those fans all supported Gillingham, then that club could grow and progress.
But by and large, it's usually a fan of someone like Bolton or Blackburn having a go. And in that case, I don't doubt their love for their club. But they were born on the doorstep of a club who have by and large played at a pretty high level. Would they be as loyal to their local club, were they born in Barrow? There will always be that nagging doubt in my mind. It's relatively easy to support your local club when they enjoy relative success.
posted on 19/8/12
Merry, bang on mate, pretty much what my drunken rumblings was trying to come round to saying
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