comment byGreatteamswinit4times(redrobtheredforDon) (U6008)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, strikers is the one position they're weaker in than most. Not taking anything away from your lad, he may turn out to be amazing!
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To be fair his goals and assists did come against lower league opposition in the league cup. But he still took em well and that's what you want from forwards....goals.
Will judge him on how he goes uptown Feb/March. Just couldn't resist flicking Lucas switches.after declaring it a strong.squad.....well all but our Kev
How many of the Belgium's first 11 would get into the England team? I reckon 5 or 6 of them.
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England ranked number 3 in the world and Uruguay at 5th. We have two starters from each team. You can have your Belgians.
D' jeezus "Kompany yes, Hazard yes. Apart from that I don't think many would be certain starters for England at the moment. Vermaelen and Fellaini obviously good players, and a few are talented but unproven really."
How fitting you don't mention the 2 spurs players in that list of "good players" when our players Vertonghen and Dembele are both excellent players. Belguim are an excellent team and i think with a very good manager they could be up there among the best.
Don. He won't mention them....the OP as he is a bitter red. Claiming Belgian quality only to backpeddal once rival teams highlight the Belgian talent they have. Dembele is another cracker.....but not as good as Allen or Henderson.....
Fellani, i thought that mate......Arsenal fans never give credit when due to spurs players I would certainly take Dembele over near enough all of Arsenals midfield. I agree though, he's no where near the level of Henderson
Check u two. Dembele and vermaelen are quality players....just because I don't share your opinion on an unproven striker from Greece. Bitterness has, and always will, stem from the wooden shack across the park
Lucas Leva, i wasen't really talking about you. I was more talking about the Arsenal fan 'De jeezus' who gave a blatant biased view of "good players" for belguim but didn't even mention Dembele or Vertonghen especially as Dembele is one of Belguims best players.
He is Belgian Lucas. And part of that cracking squad.
Bitterness has, and always will, stem from the wooden shack across the park
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What the he'll does the state of or stadium have to do with anything?
Does it make the players less worthy of your earlier praise
So saying a City and a Chelsea player are Belgiums best is proof an Arsenal fan is biased.
Or was it naming an Everton player as good?
I don't rate Vertonghen that highly, never have done. Even when he was heavily linked to Arsenal over the last few years I have been vocal with my doubts over his abilities.
Dembele is a good player. Obviously there are more than just the two I named, the comment was in response to an argument that Belgium had better strength in depth than in 80s/90s.
The fact that you feel Dembele is significantly better than all Arsenals midfielders suggests the bias is firmly in your views.
I never once said anything negative about Spurs, but your insecurities led you to be defensive.
D'jeezus, nothing about being insecure. I just find it strange how you put up a list of all these players that are good for Belguim but for some strange reason none of the spurs players you mention when infact Dembele is clearly one of Belguims best players apart from Hazard. Also my comment about wanting Dembele over any arsenal midfielder is pretty fair considering apart from Carzorla, i would say none of them are better than Dembele.
don't even mention Wilshire, the guy barely plays anymore so he is certainly not one to be comparing to.
list of all these players that are good for Belguim
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Not ALL, just the best two then a couple of examples of good players.
Kompany is Belgiums stand out player, to be fair Hazard hasn't shined that much for them when it matters. Neither has Dembele.
I wouldn't have Dembele instead of Arteta, Wilshere or Diaby let alone Cazorla. Don't think Wenger would either, hence why we didn't but him...
Diaby over dembele Now i know you are clearly biased.
Strange how, despite having a lot of midfield talent to chose from, France national manager after French manager has picked Diaby when he has been fit, and lavished immense praise on him.
But if a Spurs fan implies he is awful I guess I should ignore what I have seen with my own eyes and what these highly respected managers say and do.
Diaby couldn't even get in you're team last season mate, so now he is some sort of footballing god? It's only because Song was sold that he got his chance.
The reason Diaby couldn't get in our team last season was because he was injured for the whole of it.
And, Dembele is a good player but you are consderably overrating him into in you're mind one of the best midfielders in the World just for the reason that he plays for Spurs. I wouldn't take him over any of Cazorla, Wilshere or Arteta. They're all better than him. Maybe ahead of Diaby but that's that.
Don further shows his lack of knowledge. What a clown.
Probably never even heard of Vertonghen until he signed for Spurs, yet now, after one game, Don thinks he is one of the best in the world
You must have missed all of Ajax's defensive nightmares over the last couple of years Don, with big Jan at the centre of every disasterous defensive display.
Me a clown D'jeezus? you're the one who lists every Arsenal midfielder as better than Dembele you deluded fool I don't claim Vertonghen to be the best in the world, i leave that to you and you're pathetic Arsenal fans who over rate all you're players then call them "C rap" when they jump ship . ......van persie has gone from "greatest striker in the world" to "over rated and injured" when he signed for united, you are all even jumping on the Sagna bandwagon now he has come out saying he is not happy. Apparantly Sagna was the greatest right back in the prem, now you all rate Jenkinson better
GGC, Wilshire is an over rated injury prone pile of s hit that has done nothing in his career as of yet to warrant such praise, Arteta is a good player but i still would much rather have Dembele.
The reason Diaby couldn't get in our team last season was because he was injured for the whole of it"
right and as if he would get in the team anyway Song was by far the better player and still is.
you're the one who lists every Arsenal midfielder as better than Dembele you deluded fool
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Did I?
Yes, you said you would take all the arsenal midfield over Dembele......so that means every arsenal midfielder is better in you're opinion.
Strange how van Persie was injury prone and over-rated, and Song was the worst player in the PL, and now they are both brilliant!! According to Don the clown anyway
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posted on 7/9/12
comment byGreatteamswinit4times(redrobtheredforDon) (U6008)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, strikers is the one position they're weaker in than most. Not taking anything away from your lad, he may turn out to be amazing!
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To be fair his goals and assists did come against lower league opposition in the league cup. But he still took em well and that's what you want from forwards....goals.
Will judge him on how he goes uptown Feb/March. Just couldn't resist flicking Lucas switches.after declaring it a strong.squad.....well all but our Kev
posted on 8/9/12
How many of the Belgium's first 11 would get into the England team? I reckon 5 or 6 of them.
posted on 8/9/12
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posted on 8/9/12
England ranked number 3 in the world and Uruguay at 5th. We have two starters from each team. You can have your Belgians.
posted on 8/9/12
D' jeezus "Kompany yes, Hazard yes. Apart from that I don't think many would be certain starters for England at the moment. Vermaelen and Fellaini obviously good players, and a few are talented but unproven really."
How fitting you don't mention the 2 spurs players in that list of "good players" when our players Vertonghen and Dembele are both excellent players. Belguim are an excellent team and i think with a very good manager they could be up there among the best.
posted on 8/9/12
Don. He won't mention them....the OP as he is a bitter red. Claiming Belgian quality only to backpeddal once rival teams highlight the Belgian talent they have. Dembele is another cracker.....but not as good as Allen or Henderson.....
posted on 8/9/12
Fellani, i thought that mate......Arsenal fans never give credit when due to spurs players I would certainly take Dembele over near enough all of Arsenals midfield. I agree though, he's no where near the level of Henderson
posted on 8/9/12
Check u two. Dembele and vermaelen are quality players....just because I don't share your opinion on an unproven striker from Greece. Bitterness has, and always will, stem from the wooden shack across the park
posted on 8/9/12
Lucas Leva, i wasen't really talking about you. I was more talking about the Arsenal fan 'De jeezus' who gave a blatant biased view of "good players" for belguim but didn't even mention Dembele or Vertonghen especially as Dembele is one of Belguims best players.
posted on 8/9/12
He is Belgian Lucas. And part of that cracking squad.
posted on 8/9/12
Bitterness has, and always will, stem from the wooden shack across the park
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What the he'll does the state of or stadium have to do with anything?
Does it make the players less worthy of your earlier praise
posted on 8/9/12
So saying a City and a Chelsea player are Belgiums best is proof an Arsenal fan is biased.
Or was it naming an Everton player as good?
I don't rate Vertonghen that highly, never have done. Even when he was heavily linked to Arsenal over the last few years I have been vocal with my doubts over his abilities.
Dembele is a good player. Obviously there are more than just the two I named, the comment was in response to an argument that Belgium had better strength in depth than in 80s/90s.
The fact that you feel Dembele is significantly better than all Arsenals midfielders suggests the bias is firmly in your views.
I never once said anything negative about Spurs, but your insecurities led you to be defensive.
posted on 8/9/12
D'jeezus, nothing about being insecure. I just find it strange how you put up a list of all these players that are good for Belguim but for some strange reason none of the spurs players you mention when infact Dembele is clearly one of Belguims best players apart from Hazard. Also my comment about wanting Dembele over any arsenal midfielder is pretty fair considering apart from Carzorla, i would say none of them are better than Dembele.
posted on 8/9/12
don't even mention Wilshire, the guy barely plays anymore so he is certainly not one to be comparing to.
posted on 8/9/12
list of all these players that are good for Belguim
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Not ALL, just the best two then a couple of examples of good players.
Kompany is Belgiums stand out player, to be fair Hazard hasn't shined that much for them when it matters. Neither has Dembele.
I wouldn't have Dembele instead of Arteta, Wilshere or Diaby let alone Cazorla. Don't think Wenger would either, hence why we didn't but him...
posted on 8/9/12
Diaby over dembele Now i know you are clearly biased.
posted on 8/9/12
Strange how, despite having a lot of midfield talent to chose from, France national manager after French manager has picked Diaby when he has been fit, and lavished immense praise on him.
But if a Spurs fan implies he is awful I guess I should ignore what I have seen with my own eyes and what these highly respected managers say and do.
posted on 8/9/12
Diaby couldn't even get in you're team last season mate, so now he is some sort of footballing god? It's only because Song was sold that he got his chance.
posted on 8/9/12
The reason Diaby couldn't get in our team last season was because he was injured for the whole of it.
And, Dembele is a good player but you are consderably overrating him into in you're mind one of the best midfielders in the World just for the reason that he plays for Spurs. I wouldn't take him over any of Cazorla, Wilshere or Arteta. They're all better than him. Maybe ahead of Diaby but that's that.
posted on 8/9/12
Don further shows his lack of knowledge. What a clown.
Probably never even heard of Vertonghen until he signed for Spurs, yet now, after one game, Don thinks he is one of the best in the world
You must have missed all of Ajax's defensive nightmares over the last couple of years Don, with big Jan at the centre of every disasterous defensive display.
posted on 8/9/12
Me a clown D'jeezus? you're the one who lists every Arsenal midfielder as better than Dembele you deluded fool I don't claim Vertonghen to be the best in the world, i leave that to you and you're pathetic Arsenal fans who over rate all you're players then call them "C rap" when they jump ship . ......van persie has gone from "greatest striker in the world" to "over rated and injured" when he signed for united, you are all even jumping on the Sagna bandwagon now he has come out saying he is not happy. Apparantly Sagna was the greatest right back in the prem, now you all rate Jenkinson better
GGC, Wilshire is an over rated injury prone pile of s hit that has done nothing in his career as of yet to warrant such praise, Arteta is a good player but i still would much rather have Dembele.
posted on 8/9/12
The reason Diaby couldn't get in our team last season was because he was injured for the whole of it"
right and as if he would get in the team anyway Song was by far the better player and still is.
posted on 8/9/12
you're the one who lists every Arsenal midfielder as better than Dembele you deluded fool
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Did I?
posted on 8/9/12
Yes, you said you would take all the arsenal midfield over Dembele......so that means every arsenal midfielder is better in you're opinion.
posted on 8/9/12
Strange how van Persie was injury prone and over-rated, and Song was the worst player in the PL, and now they are both brilliant!! According to Don the clown anyway
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