Sell Walcott for 7 million (Liverpool) , Arshavin for 2 million (Some Russian team), Chamakh for 5 million (Bordeaux), Djourou for 5 million (if someone wants him).

That's 19 million made.

Trigger Isco's 16.9 million contract release clause. Sorted.

You guys are aware that we won't be signing anyone in jan

Castor Troy

I'm hoping that we do end up signing a few players even if its on loan because it's obvious we need them. I think we will only get maximum of 2 players though, but as long as they bolster our squad, then that's fine especially with a few players going to the ACoN. If we don't sign anyone in Jan, then it appears Wenger & co. have not learnt their lesson. Because the current squad just does not cut it. It's clear to everyone we need another striker...

In the BBC Interview with Wenger post-match yesterday he said we are short in forward positions. Maybe he's hinting at a January signing.

I dont't think we'll realistically sign anyone. Especially if we go on a decent run now.

I want Theo to stay. I honestly believe he could become a reliable goal scorer for us.

If theo goes then we have no chance but to sign a player since we lose gervinho/chamakh as well.

*choice

Chamack is finished at arsenal and the ox needs more time.

Selling The would be a joke.

HMNIV, why do you rate Gervinho? He's utter pap !

He's the worst player in our starting XI and he's probably the 3rd worst player in the squad. He has far too many flaws as a player to be a success at Arsenal.

Henry on loan

Hatem Ben Arfa will do nicely in January too. Still think we may need a strong defensive-minded midfielder and a top quality centre-forward though.

Drogba on loan.

The fact is Arsenal is in terrible position in squad construction because

a) We don't pay competitive wages.

b) We don't buy the better players, instead constantly gambling, on average players to make it big. The problem with this method is that you end up with wage blockers that affects (a) terribly.

I have heard that the ONLY difference between Theo signing and not signing is £10k a week.

This is the exact same situation as Ashley Cole fiasco that has haunted us terribly. We haven't won a trophy since! Now I am not saying that we haven't won because Ashley would have made us a brilliant defending team from left back, but the general strategy was formed from that.

There is zero chance we can retain any of the 4 players in the title if anyone comes calling. I believe Gibbs is also being approached by Chelsea. Can anyone with a brain cell think that Santos is better than Gibbs? The obvious rumour of Wilshere to Man Utd to replace Scholes will start at the end of the year.

Jenius stop being such a negative nancy. Wilshere is never leaving Arsenal he is a gunnerthru & thru. I made up the Gibbs to Chelsea rumour a long time ago because of the Cashley story obviously, doesn't mean it's going to happen. Just because we have lost big names in the past couple of years, it doesn't mean we will continue this trend

Jenius where are all those rumous from... tabloid stories again

I made up the Gibbs to Chelsea rumour a long time ago
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I don't know how much you are connect to anyone but this rumour comes from Chelsea. Sorry. I am sure it is partly due to the their negotiation with Ashley Cole. But the fact that Chelsea are talking about Gibbs is because they know what kind of potential he has. I don't get my info from twitter or this forum.

Wilshere representatives have been contacted by Man Utd. And it is about replacing Scholes. They obviously want to see if he is the same player. But don't be fooled that Wilshere will not move when his wages are doubled at Man Utd.

This is the whole 'illusion' that the board have sold fans. The fact is Arsenal is for sale until we can prove that we can retain players. Thats the crux of the issue. Most in the industry are quite openly saying that are whole hold up with Walcott is over £10k a week. Think about it. We are talking of a player worth at least £15m if he was contracted. Thats how poorly the board run Arsenal.

I am not being a 'nancy'. Its how it is and some of the smaller shareholders have figured it out.

I firmly believe Theo can provide 15-20 goals per season. He had an average last season and still score 11/12 goals.

He is a goal scorer and some of his finishing is so underrated.

I firmly believe Theo can provide 15-20 goals per season.
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I made the point a long time ago that its beyond that now.

Walcott is now a test case for other players. The board have made him so by drawing out the whole saga. Those player are all top quality youngsters that we have been developing. Arsene can't boast of developing players if he can't retain players before they reach their optimum.

Arsene could always make the argument with RVP that he was 29 and so it was too dangerous for someone with such a injury background to be given a long term contract on wages that would have stopped the development of the club.

Arsenal can't make that argument with Theo. And the rest of the dressing room can see it. Even those who have just joined expect some ambition and potential of growth with success. Allowing Theo to walk, that the club are now doing over such a small amount (like they did with Ashley) is going to put an end to the top 4 ambition. When Ashley left over such a pittance we still had world class players who were proven winners. We can't say that about any of our crop now. Thats been reflected in our current performances.

I'd love Ben Arfa at Arsenal. Can't believe we didn't get his as he was quite cheap when he went to Newcastle.

Ben Arfa is another middling performer who gets hyped because Newcastle only get covered when they have an exceptional performance. He is very inconsistent.

Chelsea would have gone for him to replace Malouda if they rated him. They don't! In fact most top clubs don't except for Arsene. And after buying Gervinho instead of Hazard and trying to replace RVP with Giroud. I don't trust Arsene's judgement or his scouts at the moment.

Jenius

I think you make very good points. Very solid on the whole what I read from you in general.

But I go back to my point, just because it's happened in the past couple of years doesn't mean it wont continue. I think for us to remain so "profitable" This has been somewhat necessary. You can never guarantee a Champions League or Premier League winners medal at the start of the season but what you can try to guarantee is the long-term security of the club. When we have an inflated squad and players on large amounts of money who don't deserve it perhaps rather than risk financial trouble we're playing the safer game. If nothing changes in the next few years and we continue to sell our big names after re-negotiations of certain contracts and sponsorships I will be worried. Until then I remain hopeful

*will.

If nothing changes in the next few years and we continue to sell our big names after re-negotiations of certain contracts and sponsorships I will be worried.
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There is NOTHING that is going to change the dynamics.

Look Arsene Wenger was wrong. Completely wrong.

The market is as bad it gets. We are in recession and Europe is is in recession. Do you see transfer prices collapsing or football clubs going out of business? So how do you burst a bubble when there is no bubble? Football is a marketing vehicle and not a profit making industry. Thats where a lot of American billionaires have been badly advised and been sold a lie. You have to know what you are getting into and its obvious that Kroenke doesn't. The whole FFP mantra is nonsense that just doesn't apply to Chelseas or Man Citys. Those are the teams that create wage price inflation. It will hurt Arsenal more than any club.

Things are going to improve in the market in a few years which will put us even more behind the 8 ball. If we cannot even afford to pay market wages to our developing players, let alone new stars, today, how are you going to do it when the market is growing again with higher marketing revenue and so greater wages? Don't say Gazidis is going to turn into a marketing genius because Man Utd are getting the deals now and all Gazdis can do is make cold calls to Megafon. Whats more I doubt we will have any CL revenue by then. I don't see this team qualifying for the CL without Theo AND another top striker. Pod has brought his Bayern form with him and that was expected as he has reputation of bottling it in higher profile situations. Giroud is just as bad as Chamakh. Chamakh was at least very impressive when Nasri and Cesc were feeding him.

The only way Gazidis can be proved right is if the Euro collapses. But at that point Arsenal will go out of business very quickly as no mug will be willing to pay the highest season ticket prices for mid-table football.