Renewed. Can't say I'm enthused about our chances next season, but if that kind of rubbish mattered to me I'd support Man U.
I'm annoyed about the prices, but that's an issue with football in our country as a whole.
This season I has a total of 6 season tickets, however, as circumstances change (ie Eldest daughter has new baby, youngest son away at UNI, grandson deserted us to support Liverpool) I have only renewed 2 (mine and number 3 son). It is an uphill struggle to convince my grandaughter / grandson to keep coming to watch the rams (Comments such as, its boring, are we ever going to score, why dont we win many etc etc) so now it is just us 2 die hards (My wife gave up years ago),. In actual fact I was in two minds about renewal but son 2 was keen and when I mentioned my hesitance, her indoors insisted she brought my ticket as an early birthday present as she didnt want me hanging around the house all day. Oh well I suppose that is a result of sorts.
UTR
"I have only renewed 2 (mine and number 3 son)"
Are you Charlie Chan?
What a sad state of affairs , sounds like a family who have watched the Rams for years and now the passion is being drained by this crew running our club .
Its not just a matter of investment but the product being served and the negative tactics being employed a team costing half what ours cost can be positive.
Four generations of our family including wives have been keen Rams fans over recent years paying out thousands to watch home and away , even when I managed a team playing the Rams at the Baseball ground years ago the stand was full of my family still of course wanting a Rams win , family torn by passion for the Rams , our house echoed with Rams talk , Derby telegraph daily must ,Radio Derby sports news daily , never missed a monday phone in for years , all the family would be tuned in to monday phone in , kids rooms decked with posters and colour .
Passion , Graham Richards , Colin Gibson , Jim Smith , Lionel Pickering ,Stimac, Keith Loring , what have we replaced these passionate football folk with .
Now we go days in our house without mentioning the club ,only myself and one son are hanging on to any passion or hope and that is wearing very thin .
Four years of being knocked out of cup games and finishing in the same league spot , and of late we are being urged to watch Sammon and the like who we are told by those that run the club work hard for the team , no quality no class and no tactics , you dont need to spend millions to achive these qualities , players on sunday pitches can control a ball better than some of our lot ,only the decline in standards across the board have kept us in this division.
This club is desperate for change , we need a new direction and some fire in our bellies instead of negative tactics and constant excusses . Die hard fans are getting tired of the product .
Please dont throw in NC needs funds he has had more than most in this league its not all about funds but how you manage players and set up your team , our team is no longer watched by the oppersition because we are so pridictable and have been for three years , even our set pieces are the same and our movement off the ball , even our substitutions are the same week in week out . Even the players need an element of supprise at times to get them going , I remember a top manager leaving out his best player one week and when I asked him why he said if them beggers think he can be dropped they will sit up , it worked they won , and his name was Clough.
You cannot discount the fact, also, that as a nation we have been through/are going through a very tough time economically.
Football fans everywhere are having to be far more diligent with their hard-earned pennies!
People will not invest in season tickets if all they are going to get in return is mediocrity as it doesn't make financial and emotional sense.
But they WILL invest if they see real value for money.
"People will buy on emotion and justify with logic"
So it is up to DCFC to reignite those emotions!
Sid that's a great result getting the mrs to buy the ticket.
I have renewed myself. I would renew regardless as i can't imagine not going to the games, meeting friends, pub after etc. I look forward to it. This season i have left the ground happy more often than in previous seasons due to the home form and playing some good stuff. The after game chats not being as painful as in last 5 years and i hope for more improvement for next season.
From £390 down to £290 for the sake of moving about 50 seats it would be daft not to.
Well said Robrea. The club as a whole is flat and the quality on the pitch is ordinary at best. In my opinion the club is treading water, one step forward, one step back. Money is tight but does that excuse the predictable poor quality we see on a Saturday? I'm tired of hearing how Sammon runs around all day or Coutts or whoever isn't listening to his manager. Save for Will Hughes, there has been precious little to commend this season and even then, the poor lad has been run into the ground because of a lack of any other options. The club does need a change of direction but I'm afraid that won't happen any time soon while GSE are running the show. That means Junior will still be shopping in the bargain basement, buying strikers who don't score, playing players who are clearly not fit and waiting nearly nine months before realising that some are unable or unwilling to listen to his message of how to play. Fair play to those who have renewed but unless something dramatically changes this summer, next season will be pretty much the same as this or worse.
"The club as a whole is flat and the quality on the pitch is ordinary at best"
I would say about 75% of clubs fans in the championship would say this about their own clubs. Why do people just think its Derby.
Name me one club that have come to Pride Park this season and you have thought "foook me, they're good" I cant think of one. Only game i have missed was the Blackburn cup game due to comiitments. (Thank God ) and not one team has stood out.
While you think the quality is poor, we are a Championship side, not Premier League. What are people expecting?
Yes we need to improve in certain areas if we are to push for play off next season but we are not definitely not a poor team.
Sorry Pablo but I think winning only 5 championship games in nearly 4 months is the performance of a poor team no matter how you get the statistics to dance. For whatever reason we have been very flat in a lot of games and downright poor in others since the turn of the year. You can blame lack of investment, poor management or back luck with injuries but the fact remains that 5 wins from 17 games is relegation form. You mention teams who looked better than us. Well, on paper not that many but there are several better organised than we are and that is basically what the Championship is all about. I agree with the need to improve certain areas without question. A defender to help out Keogh would be a start and a striker who hasn't been picked from a fruit stall would be another. Mind you, Martin isn't the answer either.
I wouldnt buy a season ticket if Clough came and knocked my door offering me 50% discount
The last game I went to, this season, I lasted 32 minutes before going below for a pint......... I never resurfaced for the 2nd half
I see the excuses are coming out already for tonight from Clough, beware fighting Barnsley and could be a backlash.
I read that as well Bush. Why did he say that? Why didn't he say about a backlash from us that Barnsley should fear. He comes across as very negative most of the time. Imagine as one of his players you read that. It wouldn't fill you with much confidence. He clearly doesn't think that his own side has enough about them to sort a side out just beaten 6-0 at home. There's caution and then there's feeding the fear. Then we wonder why we're so poor away from home.
I've not renewed. I won't be renewing either. I've already stated my reasons on other threads. Even if the ticket were free, it still wouldn't be worth going due to my travel costs to and from loughborough every match, and still wouldn't be worth my time when I've got more entertaining things I can be doing.
Reading the posts above about cloughs negativity towards tonights match has just further alienated me from bothering to go again. If he had said "obviously we need to respect barnsley, but their confidence must be low so I'm gonna send my team out to get at them from the word go, if we get an early goal we could end up with a similar result" then that would be great, encouraging, showing a bit of intent, not "well they've just been battered by charlton, so I'll set us up to be ultra defensive in case they decide to be angry about that result". BORING.
I think I've literally been to about 6 or 7 games this season, total waste of my season ticket but every match I've been to I've sat there bored. And instead of going on saturday, I should imagine I'll do some overtime and side jobs at work. Working is more fun and I'll be earning money not wasting it being BORED.
Republic
Whilst the statistics You use would suggest we may be, they are not a true reflection on the performances. I don't need statistics to make up my mind because i see it for myself. We should be better of point wise no doubt about it and i never said we were great. We are not a poor team. We are not far off challenging for play offs at all and a some decent additions to add depth of quality will give us that chance.
When he says beware of a backlash he is showing Barnsley respect in public.
What do you expect him to say "Ha Look at them stuffed 6 nil at home, tonight should be a walk-over"
In private to the team you have no idea what he's saying but in public he is correct to show Barnsley respect.
You talk about negativity. It's you bunch of anti-Clough wrist slashers who are negative.
Clough In!!!
I can't be bothered with the sport as a whole now. Its going nowhere fast unless you're one of the top 6 teams. Before I would set my schedule and rearrange things to make sure I could get to pride park every home match, and I would watch any match on the telly. Now I barely ever watch televised games and I only go pride park if I've got literally nothing else to do. That's not my fault, its footballs evolution driving me away from the sport.
I've thought about how entertained I've been this season. How many magical moments can I recall?
It's not many TBH.
Derby are a team that works hard, but shows precious little 'wow-factor' on the pitch, and their over-riding style is 'cautious'.
I've thought about the way some in the crowd can't wait to get on the scapegoat's back, how the atmosphere is getting worse and worse, and asked myself if that's what I want to be part of for another year.
I've thought about how many cinema or theatre tickets I could buy with the same amount of money, and how entertaining that might be.
I've thought that the cinema lets you turn up at your convenience, whilst Pride Park seems to feel it can change kick-off days & times for little or no reason; and hard cheese if it messes the season-ticket-holder about.
I've been on the verge of not renewing for the last two seasons, but in the end I did renew because of the father/son bonding side of it.
Come September my son will be away at Uni, so that won't be a factor any more.
I will not be renewing next time. I'm going to see if there's more fun to be had for the money elsewhere.
It's only my opinion Rameses but please don't lump anyone who questions what Junior is up to into the "wrist slashers" club. Derby's points return since the turn of the year has been very poor. No club gets any points for a good performance so at the end of the day results count and Derby's are just not good enough. Clough is in charge of that particular part of the club so his and the team's returns are open to scrutiny. By the very fact we only have 5 wins in 4 months my opinion is that he and his team are underperforming to the point that they are putting the club's Championship status is in danger. If that was to happen and I sincerely hope it doesn't, who do I blame? You? Me? The stadium cat? Step forward GSE and the Team Manager.
Republic
It's my opinion our expectation levels are too high which is why there is a lot of negativity surrounding a mid table finish. Too much in fact.
For our situation we are OK, everyone can grumble, but this constant negative anti-Clough campaign is not warranted.
When you consider our budget we are doing as well as any team and better than most in that bracket.
If you expect we should be a Premier League club then on this budget, you are a fruitcake.
So what is it you want?
And why are you and the rest of the Anti-Boys so down?
Me, I don't get it.
I’m afraid the chances of my lads of ever seeing Derby even competing for the premiership title let alone European Cup nights as we enjoyed are non-existent.
Football aint wot it used to be. I for one think it has been totally corrupted by money. From FIFA down to 15 year old players who employ agents ffs.
Somebody needs to set up an English Football League, with
a limit to the number of purchased players a team can field,
all matches kicking off at 3.00pm on a Saturday.
The leagues not starting until after the summer holidays,
No live matches only a highlights package available,
Fans owning 51% shares in their own club,
Maximum of £20.00 per ticket to see the game with a 30% discount for a season ticket.
FA Cup vouchers in with the season ticket,
no sponsoring of substitutions or additional time,
the reintroduction of linesmen not assistants,
a standing area for those not too vertically challanged,
free beer, pole dancers, Kylie at half time………………………….
On a different topic and before this medication wears off, what ever happened to Sports night?
Somebody needs to set up an English Football League, with
a limit to the number of purchased players a team can field,
all matches kicking off at 3.00pm on a Saturday.
The leagues not starting until after the summer holidays,
No live matches only a highlights package available,
Fans owning 51% shares in their own club,
Maximum of £20.00 per ticket to see the game with a 30% discount for a season ticket.
FA Cup vouchers in with the season ticket,
no sponsoring of substitutions or additional time,
the reintroduction of linesmen not assistants,
a standing area for those not too vertically challanged,
---
If the people wanted this enough it could happen. It just takes some organisation of the masses.
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posted on 15/4/13
posted on 15/4/13
Renewed. Can't say I'm enthused about our chances next season, but if that kind of rubbish mattered to me I'd support Man U.
I'm annoyed about the prices, but that's an issue with football in our country as a whole.
posted on 15/4/13
This season I has a total of 6 season tickets, however, as circumstances change (ie Eldest daughter has new baby, youngest son away at UNI, grandson deserted us to support Liverpool) I have only renewed 2 (mine and number 3 son). It is an uphill struggle to convince my grandaughter / grandson to keep coming to watch the rams (Comments such as, its boring, are we ever going to score, why dont we win many etc etc) so now it is just us 2 die hards (My wife gave up years ago),. In actual fact I was in two minds about renewal but son 2 was keen and when I mentioned my hesitance, her indoors insisted she brought my ticket as an early birthday present as she didnt want me hanging around the house all day. Oh well I suppose that is a result of sorts.
UTR
posted on 16/4/13
"I have only renewed 2 (mine and number 3 son)"
Are you Charlie Chan?
posted on 16/4/13
What a sad state of affairs , sounds like a family who have watched the Rams for years and now the passion is being drained by this crew running our club .
Its not just a matter of investment but the product being served and the negative tactics being employed a team costing half what ours cost can be positive.
Four generations of our family including wives have been keen Rams fans over recent years paying out thousands to watch home and away , even when I managed a team playing the Rams at the Baseball ground years ago the stand was full of my family still of course wanting a Rams win , family torn by passion for the Rams , our house echoed with Rams talk , Derby telegraph daily must ,Radio Derby sports news daily , never missed a monday phone in for years , all the family would be tuned in to monday phone in , kids rooms decked with posters and colour .
Passion , Graham Richards , Colin Gibson , Jim Smith , Lionel Pickering ,Stimac, Keith Loring , what have we replaced these passionate football folk with .
Now we go days in our house without mentioning the club ,only myself and one son are hanging on to any passion or hope and that is wearing very thin .
Four years of being knocked out of cup games and finishing in the same league spot , and of late we are being urged to watch Sammon and the like who we are told by those that run the club work hard for the team , no quality no class and no tactics , you dont need to spend millions to achive these qualities , players on sunday pitches can control a ball better than some of our lot ,only the decline in standards across the board have kept us in this division.
This club is desperate for change , we need a new direction and some fire in our bellies instead of negative tactics and constant excusses . Die hard fans are getting tired of the product .
Please dont throw in NC needs funds he has had more than most in this league its not all about funds but how you manage players and set up your team , our team is no longer watched by the oppersition because we are so pridictable and have been for three years , even our set pieces are the same and our movement off the ball , even our substitutions are the same week in week out . Even the players need an element of supprise at times to get them going , I remember a top manager leaving out his best player one week and when I asked him why he said if them beggers think he can be dropped they will sit up , it worked they won , and his name was Clough.
posted on 16/4/13
You cannot discount the fact, also, that as a nation we have been through/are going through a very tough time economically.
Football fans everywhere are having to be far more diligent with their hard-earned pennies!
People will not invest in season tickets if all they are going to get in return is mediocrity as it doesn't make financial and emotional sense.
But they WILL invest if they see real value for money.
"People will buy on emotion and justify with logic"
So it is up to DCFC to reignite those emotions!
posted on 16/4/13
Sid that's a great result getting the mrs to buy the ticket.
I have renewed myself. I would renew regardless as i can't imagine not going to the games, meeting friends, pub after etc. I look forward to it. This season i have left the ground happy more often than in previous seasons due to the home form and playing some good stuff. The after game chats not being as painful as in last 5 years and i hope for more improvement for next season.
posted on 16/4/13
From £390 down to £290 for the sake of moving about 50 seats it would be daft not to.
posted on 16/4/13
Well said Robrea. The club as a whole is flat and the quality on the pitch is ordinary at best. In my opinion the club is treading water, one step forward, one step back. Money is tight but does that excuse the predictable poor quality we see on a Saturday? I'm tired of hearing how Sammon runs around all day or Coutts or whoever isn't listening to his manager. Save for Will Hughes, there has been precious little to commend this season and even then, the poor lad has been run into the ground because of a lack of any other options. The club does need a change of direction but I'm afraid that won't happen any time soon while GSE are running the show. That means Junior will still be shopping in the bargain basement, buying strikers who don't score, playing players who are clearly not fit and waiting nearly nine months before realising that some are unable or unwilling to listen to his message of how to play. Fair play to those who have renewed but unless something dramatically changes this summer, next season will be pretty much the same as this or worse.
posted on 16/4/13
Sorry £230
posted on 16/4/13
"The club as a whole is flat and the quality on the pitch is ordinary at best"
I would say about 75% of clubs fans in the championship would say this about their own clubs. Why do people just think its Derby.
Name me one club that have come to Pride Park this season and you have thought "foook me, they're good" I cant think of one. Only game i have missed was the Blackburn cup game due to comiitments. (Thank God ) and not one team has stood out.
While you think the quality is poor, we are a Championship side, not Premier League. What are people expecting?
Yes we need to improve in certain areas if we are to push for play off next season but we are not definitely not a poor team.
posted on 16/4/13
double negative error
posted on 16/4/13
Sorry Pablo but I think winning only 5 championship games in nearly 4 months is the performance of a poor team no matter how you get the statistics to dance. For whatever reason we have been very flat in a lot of games and downright poor in others since the turn of the year. You can blame lack of investment, poor management or back luck with injuries but the fact remains that 5 wins from 17 games is relegation form. You mention teams who looked better than us. Well, on paper not that many but there are several better organised than we are and that is basically what the Championship is all about. I agree with the need to improve certain areas without question. A defender to help out Keogh would be a start and a striker who hasn't been picked from a fruit stall would be another. Mind you, Martin isn't the answer either.
posted on 16/4/13
I wouldnt buy a season ticket if Clough came and knocked my door offering me 50% discount
The last game I went to, this season, I lasted 32 minutes before going below for a pint......... I never resurfaced for the 2nd half
I see the excuses are coming out already for tonight from Clough, beware fighting Barnsley and could be a backlash.
posted on 16/4/13
I read that as well Bush. Why did he say that? Why didn't he say about a backlash from us that Barnsley should fear. He comes across as very negative most of the time. Imagine as one of his players you read that. It wouldn't fill you with much confidence. He clearly doesn't think that his own side has enough about them to sort a side out just beaten 6-0 at home. There's caution and then there's feeding the fear. Then we wonder why we're so poor away from home.
posted on 16/4/13
I've not renewed. I won't be renewing either. I've already stated my reasons on other threads. Even if the ticket were free, it still wouldn't be worth going due to my travel costs to and from loughborough every match, and still wouldn't be worth my time when I've got more entertaining things I can be doing.
posted on 16/4/13
Reading the posts above about cloughs negativity towards tonights match has just further alienated me from bothering to go again. If he had said "obviously we need to respect barnsley, but their confidence must be low so I'm gonna send my team out to get at them from the word go, if we get an early goal we could end up with a similar result" then that would be great, encouraging, showing a bit of intent, not "well they've just been battered by charlton, so I'll set us up to be ultra defensive in case they decide to be angry about that result". BORING.
I think I've literally been to about 6 or 7 games this season, total waste of my season ticket but every match I've been to I've sat there bored. And instead of going on saturday, I should imagine I'll do some overtime and side jobs at work. Working is more fun and I'll be earning money not wasting it being BORED.
posted on 16/4/13
Republic
Whilst the statistics You use would suggest we may be, they are not a true reflection on the performances. I don't need statistics to make up my mind because i see it for myself. We should be better of point wise no doubt about it and i never said we were great. We are not a poor team. We are not far off challenging for play offs at all and a some decent additions to add depth of quality will give us that chance.
posted on 16/4/13
When he says beware of a backlash he is showing Barnsley respect in public.
What do you expect him to say "Ha Look at them stuffed 6 nil at home, tonight should be a walk-over"
In private to the team you have no idea what he's saying but in public he is correct to show Barnsley respect.
You talk about negativity. It's you bunch of anti-Clough wrist slashers who are negative.
Clough In!!!
posted on 16/4/13
I can't be bothered with the sport as a whole now. Its going nowhere fast unless you're one of the top 6 teams. Before I would set my schedule and rearrange things to make sure I could get to pride park every home match, and I would watch any match on the telly. Now I barely ever watch televised games and I only go pride park if I've got literally nothing else to do. That's not my fault, its footballs evolution driving me away from the sport.
posted on 16/4/13
I've thought about how entertained I've been this season. How many magical moments can I recall?
It's not many TBH.
Derby are a team that works hard, but shows precious little 'wow-factor' on the pitch, and their over-riding style is 'cautious'.
I've thought about the way some in the crowd can't wait to get on the scapegoat's back, how the atmosphere is getting worse and worse, and asked myself if that's what I want to be part of for another year.
I've thought about how many cinema or theatre tickets I could buy with the same amount of money, and how entertaining that might be.
I've thought that the cinema lets you turn up at your convenience, whilst Pride Park seems to feel it can change kick-off days & times for little or no reason; and hard cheese if it messes the season-ticket-holder about.
I've been on the verge of not renewing for the last two seasons, but in the end I did renew because of the father/son bonding side of it.
Come September my son will be away at Uni, so that won't be a factor any more.
I will not be renewing next time. I'm going to see if there's more fun to be had for the money elsewhere.
posted on 16/4/13
It's only my opinion Rameses but please don't lump anyone who questions what Junior is up to into the "wrist slashers" club. Derby's points return since the turn of the year has been very poor. No club gets any points for a good performance so at the end of the day results count and Derby's are just not good enough. Clough is in charge of that particular part of the club so his and the team's returns are open to scrutiny. By the very fact we only have 5 wins in 4 months my opinion is that he and his team are underperforming to the point that they are putting the club's Championship status is in danger. If that was to happen and I sincerely hope it doesn't, who do I blame? You? Me? The stadium cat? Step forward GSE and the Team Manager.
posted on 16/4/13
Republic
It's my opinion our expectation levels are too high which is why there is a lot of negativity surrounding a mid table finish. Too much in fact.
For our situation we are OK, everyone can grumble, but this constant negative anti-Clough campaign is not warranted.
When you consider our budget we are doing as well as any team and better than most in that bracket.
If you expect we should be a Premier League club then on this budget, you are a fruitcake.
So what is it you want?
And why are you and the rest of the Anti-Boys so down?
Me, I don't get it.
posted on 16/4/13
I’m afraid the chances of my lads of ever seeing Derby even competing for the premiership title let alone European Cup nights as we enjoyed are non-existent.
Football aint wot it used to be. I for one think it has been totally corrupted by money. From FIFA down to 15 year old players who employ agents ffs.
Somebody needs to set up an English Football League, with
a limit to the number of purchased players a team can field,
all matches kicking off at 3.00pm on a Saturday.
The leagues not starting until after the summer holidays,
No live matches only a highlights package available,
Fans owning 51% shares in their own club,
Maximum of £20.00 per ticket to see the game with a 30% discount for a season ticket.
FA Cup vouchers in with the season ticket,
no sponsoring of substitutions or additional time,
the reintroduction of linesmen not assistants,
a standing area for those not too vertically challanged,
free beer, pole dancers, Kylie at half time………………………….
On a different topic and before this medication wears off, what ever happened to Sports night?
posted on 16/4/13
Somebody needs to set up an English Football League, with
a limit to the number of purchased players a team can field,
all matches kicking off at 3.00pm on a Saturday.
The leagues not starting until after the summer holidays,
No live matches only a highlights package available,
Fans owning 51% shares in their own club,
Maximum of £20.00 per ticket to see the game with a 30% discount for a season ticket.
FA Cup vouchers in with the season ticket,
no sponsoring of substitutions or additional time,
the reintroduction of linesmen not assistants,
a standing area for those not too vertically challanged,
---
If the people wanted this enough it could happen. It just takes some organisation of the masses.
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