i dont think anyone has ever man-marked Aaron Ramsey tbh, why would you?

It would have helped United greatly in May 2011.

"If he dominated us, why did the man he was man marking get MOTM, simple question."

Yes because Ramsey created so much in that game. He was creating chances left right and centre and was a constant threat to their goal. Oh wait he wasn't, he didn't actually do much hence why we failed to score.

Fellaini did exactly what he was supposed to do in that game and that was to disrupt play by tackling, even sometimes fouling, to stop us getting a good opportunity on goal, and he did it very effectively.

would it?

Fellaini did exactly what he was supposed to do in that game and that was to disrupt play by tackling, even sometimes fouling, to stop us getting a good opportunity on goal, and he did it very effectively.

So you're saying cheatings good?

"Sorry, was just proving some hypocracy."

Well you didn't because I've proven that I've seen him a number of times. I've never raved about a player having never watched them play at least 2 or 3 games, unless I'm being silly (WUMing etc.)

That's not the point though, the point is you're wrong about Fellaini,

Fellaini? Not my first choice.

That's not the point though, the point is you're wrong about Fellaini,

No he's not

If the match at the emirates finished nil all and fellaini played DM would he not have had a good game?

"So you're saying cheatings good?"

He didn't cheat though, he played fully within in the rules. It's pretty clear you're not that knowledgeable about football so let me explain something to you. There is something in football known as a tactical foul, whereas you deliberately foul the opposition player to stop the other team breaking away. You may get carded but the point is you may have just stopped them scoring a goal, which means you did a good job. There's no cheating about that because there's no rule against it. Understand?

Fouling is kind of cheating, and is punished with a free kick/penalty.

Yes Dog, Ramsey was rubbish and fellaini was great.

But then, why did Fellaini not get MOTM? Infact, the only place i've found that didn't give it to ramsey, gave it to jagielka, guess it wasn't fellaini stopping the attacks.

There's no cheating about that because there's no rule against it. Understand?
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Actually, the rule is, dont foul a person, otherwise it is a freekick.

Fellaini did exactly what he was supposed to do in that game and that was to disrupt play by tackling, even sometimes fouling, to stop us getting a good opportunity on goal, and he did it very effectively.

So you're saying cheatings good?


The above kind of sounds like viera in his day, now obviously viera is a far superior player to fellaini but shouldn't a good DM do the above? Hamman did the same for us and he was another great DM

"Fouling is kind of cheating, and is punished with a free kick/penalty."

It's part of the game. That's why people say stuff like "he took one for the team" and $hit like that.

So Dog, was Ryan Shawcross taking one for the team, against Ramsey?

You're allowed to get yellow cards...

When suarez handled the ball on the line v ghana in the world cup, was that cheating or just part of the game?

"So Dog, was Ryan Shawcross taking one for the team, against Ramsey?"

Are you serious? Yes that's completely the same. A wild irresponsible hack at someone is exactly the same as clipping someones heels to stop them attacking. Jesus wept.

Are you serious? Yes that's completely the same. A wild irresponsible hack at someone is exactly the same as clipping someones heels to stop them attacking. Jesus wept.
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Both are classified as exactly the same thing 'a foul'

Well based on your definiton, Shawcross was stopping Ramsey from passing it to a team mate which could have lead to goal, and so was taking one for the team according to you.

Fouling someone to stop an attack is an accepted part of the game. I don't see it as cheating, as well as many others.

Get over yourselves.

Fouling someone to stop an attack is an accepted part of the game. I don't see it as cheating, as well as many others.

What's the difference between that and breaking someones leg or stopping them from scoring on the line?

"Well based on your definiton, Shawcross was stopping Ramsey from passing it to a team mate which could have lead to goal, and so was taking one for the team according to you."

If you can't see the difference there is no point arguing with you. That was a wild hack, not in anyway similar to clipping someones heels as they're on the breakaway. If you're going to continue this mindless argument I don't see the point in discussing this with you anymore because it's clear you don't have a brain.

That was a wild hack, not in anyway similar to clipping someones heels as they're on the breakaway.

Both a foul.

Yes dog one si worse than the other, but we arent asking to what extent did someone cheat, we are saying did they cheat, they are both classed as fouls, so if one is, the other is.