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posted on 6/12/14

Anyone who wishes to make a complaint against Stringers sensationalist journalism can do so here by the way

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

You can select local radio and then Radio Leicester. I feel its time for a change of lead presenter, its been 6 years with Stringer and when it gets to the point where Leicester players are refusing to talk to the station, how on earth can he and his colleagues be fit to represent the fans?

posted on 6/12/14

I understand that it's Stringer's use of Twitter as much as the crass questioning style that has upset fans.

Anyone would think Stringer was a fan mugged off by NPs success and now can smell blood.

posted on 6/12/14

BlackStarr, I certainly do not wish to make a complaint about him. Just because his line of questioning irks me as well, that doesn't mean I want action taken against it. I just wish he'd change it for his own sake, because he's making himself look daft and, despite Nev's objections, seems to be turning parts of the club against him. It's his job to report and commentate, not to be the one to dig out the story or (worryingly) to be the story.

I have some sympathy in that interviews must be difficult right now. Nigel's hardly forthcoming at the best of times, so it must be difficult to make each after-match interview sound different right now. But at the very least he should leave it to one question, something constructive or informative about how things might turn around or about strengthening in January, then leave it at that if Pearson doesn't want to answer. It's not his job in local radio to try to break him. Maybe in the nationals that may be more acceptable, but local radio survives as part of the Leicestershire community and interviews and reporting should be carried out with good will and treated as such.

posted on 6/12/14

Thats cool Dunge, the link is just there for those of us who have had enough and want a change. The BBC won't do anything until some of the fans who are tired of him say something, but I appreciate thats only a minority

posted on 6/12/14

Love his commentary and for that reason I'd like him to stay.

Hate everything else about his work.

However, before you wish him out. Listen to other local radio stations and the quality of their commentary. Trust me, it's dreadful. And don't forget our not so distant past with commentators also.

Stringer is probably one of the best local radio commentators I've heard and I personally love his passion. Sadly he's also one of the worst journalists too!

posted on 6/12/14

Unfortunately commentary is only one part of his job. If he was just a commentator, and by the way I think he is a very good one, then I would be fine for him to stay.

For me personally its got to the point where I don't listen to RL any more, I just can't stand his unprofessionalism. However again I accept I'm in the minority here

posted on 6/12/14

BS Well he must go now you have decided you have had enough not only do you want to run this place you now want to control the BBC.

If Stringer has overstepped the mark the BBC will take action how many have signed up to the Stringer out thing?

I really wish he had replied to your tweet.

posted on 6/12/14

I don't want to see Ian lose his job, I just want him to think about his questions more. I really enjoy his commentary & recently listened to our Newcastle game with Radio Newcastle & that was awful. Just stop prodding Nigel until he bites.

posted on 6/12/14

Wind it in Nev because you're getting personal once again. I'm not starting a campaign to get the man out - thats already been done. I'm entitled to post a link for anyone else sick of his inane journalism.

Complaining doesnt mean he will lose his job.

posted on 6/12/14

Given so many other media outlets have run with fan spatgate it suggests that Stringer got it right to raise the issue with him, if only he had approached it in the right way instead of something akin to prodding an angry bear with a stick.

End of the day, no one is coming out of the last few days with any credit, not least the morons who gave some abuse to our generous benefactors in the box.

I sincerely hope Top doesn't assume that they speak for the majority of the fans

posted on 6/12/14

Agreed Danger - he should be asking about the fan spat, thats absolutely expected. What he shouldn't be doing though is stating to NP that its his job to find out the details of personal conversations between the manager and the chairman on air. As NP said 'no its not your job Ian'

posted on 6/12/14

Complaining doesnt mean he will lose his job.
really #stingerout attached to the tweets with the complaint must be wrong then osrry my mistake they just want to slap his wrist for raising a matter that has been raised by journalists even as far away as the UAE.

I put it to you he would lose his job as the BBC football corespondent if had not.

Anyway this getting dull i just hope that the owners don't get sick of all the bad publicity, foul mouth abuse and poor performances and pull the plug on the club.

posted on 6/12/14

As I said complaining in itself does not mean he will lose his job. Perhaps the Beeb will have a polite word in his ear.

The complaint linked has indeed been posted on the StringerOut tweet campaign, but I've complained without asking the BBC to replace him.

Again Nev you're missing the point - its not the issues he raises, its the way he raises them.

posted on 6/12/14

Back to the topic, here is a sample of how a small cross section of Leicester fans have responded on the below poll. 98 fans surveyed (and no it doesnt include my vote...!)

Poll: Stringer (98 member(s) have cast votes)

How Has Ian Stringer handled the last few weeks?

1. He's just doing his Job. He's got to ask difficult Questions. Carry on Ian (13 votes [13.27%] - View)


2. Been a bit overboard, but means well.He's harmless. (15 votes [15.31%] - View)


3. Quite frankly embarrassing. Out of his depth. Handled it badly. (70 votes [71.43%] - View)

posted on 6/12/14

So 70 punters think his embarrassing and 28 think hes doing his job and your point is this is such a small sample to (Ask dung) to mean anything.
i know a lot of people who are wind up by Stringy but are also think Nigel is ignorant and dismissive of the the local media and the fans.

Unless anyone can show me any evidence to contradict that please do.

posted on 6/12/14

Just because its a small sample that doesnt equate to it not meaning anything. It means precisely what it says, 100 fans have answered a poll and 71% think Stringer has been an embarrassment this week.

Anyhow, youve failed to answer any of the issues put to you today in your continual defence of your 'celebrity' friend

Why have are a couple of the players refusing to speak to Radio Leicester after the Villa game? What are the gestures made by Radio Leicester journalists that has upset them?

These are quotes from Pearson so we know its happened.

If players are not speaking to Radio Leicester, how can this station be providing the fans with suitable coverage?

You cant deny this isnt good for the station...

posted on 6/12/14

"Anyone who wishes to make a complaint against Stringers sensationalist journalism can do so here by the way

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

You can select local radio and then Radio Leicester. I feel its time for a change of lead presenter, its been 6 years with Stringer and when it gets to the point where Leicester players are refusing to talk to the station, how on earth can he and his colleagues be fit to represent the fans?"

"The complaint linked has indeed been posted on the StringerOut tweet campaign, but I've complained without asking the BBC to replace him."

Make your mind up you either want him out as for your comment and then you change your mind.

" Youve failed to answer any of the issues put to you today in your continual defence of your 'celebrity' friend
"
You have to get personal Celebrity friend why do you need to add that to debate about whether his can or can't do his job.

You publish a poll of 98 people and as if that proves anything......

"These are quotes from Pearson so we know its happened." Do we a bit like "our Defence played well"


"If players are not speaking to Radio Leicester, how can this station be providing the fans with suitable coverage"?

"You cant deny this isnt good for the station..."

So by implication anytime the manager of a club is not happy with the questions he's being asked he can get the questioner replaced by someone who only asks nice questions that Nigel wants to be asked.

To go back to what really is important these are side issues and distractions to the FACT we are bottom of the league without a win since Man utd and none of that has anything to do with Radio Leicester or its football reporters.

so as i keep saying a win tomorrow and we can start talking football










posted on 6/12/14

Wow. Ok, I'll try and deal with this a point at a time

Do I want stringer out? Ideally yes although I have not stated that in my complaint to the BBC. Those two statements can indeed co-exist in the same universe, it won't create a paradox that will blow the space/time continuum. I would like him out but chose not to call for his head in my complaint email. It's Radio Leicesters decision not mine although I support the twitter campaign

Use of the term 'celebrity' friend is more of a dig at stringer and hardly as personal as remarks you have made today about my motives today. So sorry, you're scraping the barrel there Graham

I posted a poll of 98 people, which proves precisely what those 98 people think of Stringer. I have never claimed this to be wholly representative of Leicester fan base. I can clarify this further if you need me to

Finally your last staggering point. Where have I implicated anywhere that the manager has a right to get he questioner replaced? Dig out the quote please.

Once again you have sidetracked the questions put to you surrounding gestures made by radio leicester which now mean we can't hear from some of the players. Do you feel this is an appropriate way for journalists to behave Graham? Are you going to defend such action?

posted on 6/12/14

I am bored with this as i am sure everyone else is.

For the avoidance of doubt if anyone on radio Leicester has acted outside the BBC code of conduct they will be disciplined and even fired.


Just a couple of question for you do you think the timing of the complaint against radio Leicester is a little convenient given the poo flying around.
Do you defend such action from NP to deflect from his own problems he could say to his players ignore the idoiot ad just talk to him?

"Do you feel this is an appropriate way for journalists to behave Graham? Are you going to defend such action?"

No.........but do you have faintest idea what happened or do you just hope Stringy has cocked up.



posted on 6/12/14

I think the timing of the complaint from the players coincides with increased negative reporting from Radio Leicester and an inappropriate line of questioning. No surprise that the manager and some players are fed up.

Do I defend NP taking action to deflect from his own problems? He isnt refusing to talk to Radio Leicester is he so I dont know what action youre referring to.

None of us know exactly what has caused this problem with the players, but NP has confirmed its related to gestures they are unhappy with. Thats all we know.

Why is it Graham that every time there is something negative against Stringer and co on here that you just cant handle it? You become aggressive, question motives, bully people and basically try and shout others down.

Let me remind you, because of my posts you have today accused me of trying to control this board. You have made, incorrectly, false allegations that I have a vendetta against Stringer because he didnt reply to my tweet. In both instances you took the argument away from the subject matter and unprovoked made it personal.

You're a bully Graham, plain and simple - its the only way you know how to get your points over on something you feel this strongly about. You've done it to Danger in the past as well as others, you wont do it to me

posted on 6/12/14

Blokes a idiot- sooner he goes the better.

posted on 6/12/14

BS you just have the last word i give up....

posted on 6/12/14

Agreed Trish Didnt he block you once on Twitter because you asked him a question he didnt like?

And btw we should all be allowed to say what we think about the guy on this thread, good or bad

posted on 6/12/14

He sure did BS. Wasn't a abusive question or even a argumentative one- just one that questioned his theory on players trying hard enough. I got no response, I was just blocked.

Like a say, blokes a idiot

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