Looks to have no plan b and the signing Alcaraz has got to be a joke hasn't it?

comment by Kolo's Long Schłong! KLS ⚽️ (U1695)
posted 4 minutes ago
Looks to have no plan b and the signing Alcaraz has got to be a joke hasn't it?
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That's the thing, last season he mixed it up. He had several plans but not this season. Alcaraz is a joke can't disagree with that.

If you sign players from a relegated team (Alcaraz and Kone) to start to play like a relegated team.

I think he needs to be given another transfer window at least. Don't get me wrong I am sick to the back teeth of Barry walking back into the side and the persistence with Alcaraz but he must surely see that the clock is ticking on the former and the latter is really our only alternative currently if Jags or Stones are injured.(I can only assume that Distin must be dead!) need to see what players he can get in the summer and if we try to secure Lennon permanently as some sort of replacement for Kev M as he is surely going. Won't be happy about that as Mirallas is a touch of quality in the team and I'd hate to lose him. He needs to improve the defence, that much is for sure, and figure out a better way to get the best out of big Rom.
Overall I'm minded to say that Moyes had a shocker(16th/17th) the season after coming 4th and we didn't hound him out. And he sets up teams for Europe pretty well, though obviously that won't be a factor for at least a season!
And he needs to cut down on the sheer number of 'phenomenals' in post match interviews when we've been dreadful....

comment by Hello, Hello we are The Chelsea boys! TheChavyOne. (U12176)
posted 9 seconds ago
If you sign players from a relegated team (Alcaraz and Kone) to start to play like a relegated team.
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We had those 2 players last season. Although kone didn't really play due to injury. Plus we got mccarthy from Wigan and he is class, he is the only one we should have bought Imo

comment by toffeegod (U1345)
posted 34 seconds ago
I think he needs to be given another transfer window at least. Don't get me wrong I am sick to the back teeth of Barry walking back into the side and the persistence with Alcaraz but he must surely see that the clock is ticking on the former and the latter is really our only alternative currently if Jags or Stones are injured.(I can only assume that Distin must be dead!) need to see what players he can get in the summer and if we try to secure Lennon permanently as some sort of replacement for Kev M as he is surely going. Won't be happy about that as Mirallas is a touch of quality in the team and I'd hate to lose him. He needs to improve the defence, that much is for sure, and figure out a better way to get the best out of big Rom.
Overall I'm minded to say that Moyes had a shocker(16th/17th) the season after coming 4th and we didn't hound him out. And he sets up teams for Europe pretty well, though obviously that won't be a factor for at least a season!
And he needs to cut down on the sheer number of 'phenomenals' in post match interviews when we've been dreadful....
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Do you think he can actually build a defence? As far a moyes second season, he sure didn't have the quality available to martinez. Also really hope we don't sign lennon.

Last season you looked packed with quality in the wide areas, but this year mirralas has been a shadow!

Surely you've got youth team centre halfseasonticket that could do better than Alacaraz?

comment by Kolo's Long Schłong! KLS ⚽️ (U1695)
posted 59 minutes ago
Surely you've got youth team centre halfseasonticket that could do better than Alacaraz?
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He makes so many poor decisions you would think there would be someone better, I'd be tempted even to give Besic a run out as opposed to Alcaraz right now.

I reckon he needs another season to see which season was the fluke.

I can't stand Martinez and his lack of ability. He has a bigger pull on bringing in players than Moyes but cannot do anything defensive. If only we could splice the defensiveness of Moyes and attacking lure of Martinez in to one manager we could at least make a stand in the league again.

Martinez never interested me from the start but i was very happy to be proven wrong last season, albeit only to be proven right this season.

We need someone who isn't a media favourite to come in, martinez got the appointment because the media hyped it up and bill gave in. Look at Southampton, sold all their high profile players but kicked ar$e all season because they didn't hire harry redknapp or pardew as their manager. Go figure

comment by Tim Howard's Beard (U1845)
posted 3 hours, 26 minutes ago
I can't stand Martinez and his lack of ability. He has a bigger pull on bringing in players than Moyes but cannot do anything defensive. If only we could splice the defensiveness of Moyes and attacking lure of Martinez in to one manager we could at least make a stand in the league again.

Martinez never interested me from the start but i was very happy to be proven wrong last season, albeit only to be proven right this season.

We need someone who isn't a media favourite to come in, martinez got the appointment because the media hyped it up and bill gave in. Look at Southampton, sold all their high profile players but kicked ar$e all season because they didn't hire harry redknapp or pardew as their manager. Go figure
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Similar to what I though. He wasn't my choice but once he had got the job I supported him & last season I was impressed. Yet this season has been abysmal, you learn more about a manager when thinks are going wrong than right. Just look at Rodgers, Liverpool were playing poor and had lost key players so he changed things about. Martinez what has he done to halt or change our poor form?

I understand what Toffeegod is saying but it just is not in Roberto's DNA, CV (god knows what Kenwright read, Terry Patchett novel perhaps), or Premiership History to improve a side, so giving him another window and/or season is just another opportunity for him to bring us close to relegation (and we are not out of it this season yet). His pre and post match comments also border on the ridiculous, it would appear that it is everyone elses fault except his. On relegation, Roberto (if you read this stuff) the statement 'I am used to fighting relegation with Wigan every season' is not a positive is it? I have refrained from mentioning Alcaraz (again Martinez reasons given for selecting him in Ukraine bordered on living in la la land) or Barry, what is the point when as soon as he can Martinez shoe horns them back in again. I don't know the people he has around him, but surely they can see what we see week in week out and if they are not telling him then they do not have Everton's interest but their own at heart.

Now that things go wrong it starts. Before when we didn't spend it would be BK who would relegate us. Now he spends its martinez.
Has anyone looked at the correlation between small budgets and relegation. Look at the bottom 3 teams budget in comparison

He has shown in Rom, Besic and McCarthy he can spot and attract a player

Arouna like Roberto you refuse to see the bigger picture. Those 3 are good players but so is Osman, Coleman, Jags, Mirallas, Baines, Barkley, Garbutt etc! or they were. Do you really think that this side being so out of form is just coincidence or hand on heart do you believe like the majority of us it is down to Roberto and his staff (the same staff that season upon season fought off relegation with Wigan). This is the man who thinks free kicks and corners are not real goals, whose excuses build and build every post match conference and who thinks his experience of fighting relegation every season is a complement to his coaching/managerial skills. I really do not want to be in the position of I told you so but Roberto's present situation is nothing like Moyes second season in as much as his track record shows that once he settles in, his methods will have us fighting relegation season upon season. A good Manager is one who listens and is prepared to recognise when things are not working, I hate to say it but all he has to do is look across the Park.

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Listens.....listens to who?

You and I on an Internet forum? You refuse point blank to look at the correlation between budget and relegation, you just want him out. Plus it lets you have a swipe at BK. You can type all you want on here, as can I. Nothing will change and Roberto will stay.

One poster here pointed out last season Stones got caught under the high diagonal, now he is top draw......

How did our terrible manager do that?

So he did get caught under the diagonal but he also made tremendous runs out of defence and like the rest was in the first 3 quarters of the season playing really well. I have already commented on why I believe we did well in the beginning as have others but look at how we finished. His methods hadn't really sunk in as for the majority of those players Moyes methods were still ingrained and it was only toward the end that we saw, Martinez Wigan style emerge. Young Boys (my Grand Son was the lad that walked out with Jags) the crowd had a shout and suddenly the players took to more direct football and it worked. Against Kiev eventually we adopted the same style and it worked. Every time we revert back to going for the throat and we as fans cheer up thinking here we go at last, what does he do!!!!!!! As for individuals have you an answer as to why he keeps picking Alcaraz or his explanation for leaving Stones out for him. And yes I do want him out and yes Bill has to bear some responsibility, he hired him.

I have no idea why Stones just returning from injury was on the bench?

Do you have any idea why when Jags and Stones were fit Alcaraz was on the bench?

Stones didn't play well by the comments from posters here for 3/4 of the season, they wanted him benched for the first half of the season.

Maybe the crowd should shout more often and then we will win more, they know the score

Would you say in the last 1/3rd f the season we became / took on Wigan form?

Well the last 12 game results are here for you

We started worse You......are talking nads!

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/everton/2013-2014/results

Yep.

More points in final third than first third.

Martinez style improve form

27 points first 14, lost 1, 27 points last 14 but lost 5. Indication of Martinez tactics and methods I would say in particular that were starting to make us easier to beat. If you play a passing style then it is best if you do it in the opposition half, playing sideways and backwards is hardly penetrative is it. I don't know where you sit but surely from anywhere in the Ground it must be obvious even to you.

So then what you are saying is nothing changed over te season now then?

Six draws in those games........

The Moyes negativity still showing then, imagine if we played more attacking