It's strange, the best refs don't seem to get the biggest games.
Really worried about playing Palace, would have preferred we played Watford.
Historically, both encounters against Palace in the FA ended up in a replay.
Utd played CP in ther FA Cup on 12 May 1990. The game ended in a tie 3-3 and was set for a replay on 17 May 1990 where United won 1-0. This win saved SAF career, it was the beginning of the his trophy cabinet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5nf7bpThKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkrTEYSTLQs
Utd also played CP in ther FA Cup Semi Final on 09 Apr1995. The game ended in a tie 2-2 also and was set for a replay on 12 Apr 1995 where United also won 2-0.
This news has left me feeling deeply vexed.
Every game Mark Clattenburg officiates is about one thing and one thing only...Mark Clattenburg.
Imagine his performance in a showpiece final!
I wanted us to play Palace as they allow lots of shots and Watford gave us 2 end to end games.
Is he that bad? I always feel when a group of fans moan about an individual ref they're usually completely ignoring their performances in other games that they probably don't take anywhere near as much notice of. If any of these refs were really that bad and picking on certain clubs they wouldn't be refereeing for long.
Isn't there also a rule that a ref can only officiate 1 FA Cup final? SO if people are moaning that the 'best' refs aren't reffing the game it's probably because they've already done a final.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 22 minutes ago
Is he that bad?
.............
Yes.
He is one of those refs that always makes the game about him, imo.
And when he makes howlers, he makes bad ones.
He's also in the running for the CL final, subject to how City progress.
Can't see him doing both though. I'd imagine someone else will do the FA cup final if he gets the CL final.
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
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Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
Other than the penalty mistake what else did he do wrong in that game? The Blackett red was correct. If you're saying 1 mistake sums up a ref I'm sure you could get examples for any ref, they're human, not robots.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
....................
Really? The Leicester game last season was as bad a piece of officiating as I have ever seen by what is a so called top ref.
Pretty sure he was the clown that got the 50 yarder wrong against Spurs. I also recall a Mersyside Derby where he got a few wrong against Everton.
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
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Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
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more like Pedro Mendes
Was the 50 yarder the refs fault or the linesman? He must be doing something right to be chosen to ref the CL games. Like I said, I'm sure you can find examples of mistakes for pretty much every single ref, the difference being that when those incidents are in games involving your own side then you're going to have a personal issue with the ref.
Not saying he's perfect or even great, but I don't think he's actually any worse than the rest.
https://politicalfootballs.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/pedro_mendes_disallowed_goal.jpg
maybe it's not clattenburg and more his officials
I used to think he was the best ref, maybe sending 2 Chelsea players off against us at the Bridge helped, but for the last few years he's been horrendous in our games.
I don't watch too many non-United games so can't comment on his other performances but he's been poor for us many a time recently if I recall.
The Vardy "foul" on Rafa follwed by the dive were two of the worst decisions I've ever seen, and I've not seen a decision change the balance of a game so much before.
The change in the atmosphere was so noticeable after that pen. He also prevented Falcao scoring to make it 4-1 (?) when he moved the crossbar down a few inches
lee mason is the worst referee
Other than the penalty mistake what else did he do wrong in that game?
..............
Just on the first penalty alone, he got two parts of it wrong.
Also Leicester's first goal was from a cross that was out of play.
IMO, there was a clear foul on Blackett by Vardy prior to the penalty, right in front of Clattenburg.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
Was the 50 yarder the refs fault or the linesman?
................
Both.
Forgot about those incidents VC. Terrible game all round!
Just praying for a bit of luck ourselves on Sunday. Would like nothing more than to win via a jammy 93rd minute penalty or Leicester red card
comment by The Phenom - Thread Killer (U20037)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
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Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
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more like Pedro Mendes
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Just nipped out there for a bit.
You've only just strengthened my case.
And VC has summed up his Leicester performance perfectly.
I really have no problem with officials getting the odd call wrong. I happens and officials are only human and don't have the benefit of replays.
But that Leicester game is probably the worst performance by an official I have ever seen in a United game for a long, long time.
comment by The Phenom - Thread Killer (U20037)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
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Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
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more like Pedro Mendes
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That was the player's fault. He should have made sure from that range.
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posted on 25/4/16
It's strange, the best refs don't seem to get the biggest games.
posted on 25/4/16
Really worried about playing Palace, would have preferred we played Watford.
posted on 25/4/16
Ffs
posted on 25/4/16
Historically, both encounters against Palace in the FA ended up in a replay.
Utd played CP in ther FA Cup on 12 May 1990. The game ended in a tie 3-3 and was set for a replay on 17 May 1990 where United won 1-0. This win saved SAF career, it was the beginning of the his trophy cabinet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5nf7bpThKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkrTEYSTLQs
Utd also played CP in ther FA Cup Semi Final on 09 Apr1995. The game ended in a tie 2-2 also and was set for a replay on 12 Apr 1995 where United also won 2-0.
posted on 25/4/16
This news has left me feeling deeply vexed.
Every game Mark Clattenburg officiates is about one thing and one thing only...Mark Clattenburg.
Imagine his performance in a showpiece final!
posted on 25/4/16
Friends with Rooney.
posted on 25/4/16
I wanted us to play Palace as they allow lots of shots and Watford gave us 2 end to end games.
posted on 25/4/16
Is he that bad? I always feel when a group of fans moan about an individual ref they're usually completely ignoring their performances in other games that they probably don't take anywhere near as much notice of. If any of these refs were really that bad and picking on certain clubs they wouldn't be refereeing for long.
Isn't there also a rule that a ref can only officiate 1 FA Cup final? SO if people are moaning that the 'best' refs aren't reffing the game it's probably because they've already done a final.
posted on 25/4/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 22 minutes ago
Is he that bad?
.............
Yes.
He is one of those refs that always makes the game about him, imo.
And when he makes howlers, he makes bad ones.
posted on 25/4/16
He's also in the running for the CL final, subject to how City progress.
Can't see him doing both though. I'd imagine someone else will do the FA cup final if he gets the CL final.
posted on 25/4/16
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
posted on 25/4/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
posted on 25/4/16
Other than the penalty mistake what else did he do wrong in that game? The Blackett red was correct. If you're saying 1 mistake sums up a ref I'm sure you could get examples for any ref, they're human, not robots.
posted on 25/4/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
....................
Really? The Leicester game last season was as bad a piece of officiating as I have ever seen by what is a so called top ref.
Pretty sure he was the clown that got the 50 yarder wrong against Spurs. I also recall a Mersyside Derby where he got a few wrong against Everton.
posted on 25/4/16
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
more like Pedro Mendes
posted on 25/4/16
Was the 50 yarder the refs fault or the linesman? He must be doing something right to be chosen to ref the CL games. Like I said, I'm sure you can find examples of mistakes for pretty much every single ref, the difference being that when those incidents are in games involving your own side then you're going to have a personal issue with the ref.
Not saying he's perfect or even great, but I don't think he's actually any worse than the rest.
posted on 25/4/16
https://politicalfootballs.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/pedro_mendes_disallowed_goal.jpg
maybe it's not clattenburg and more his officials
posted on 25/4/16
I used to think he was the best ref, maybe sending 2 Chelsea players off against us at the Bridge helped, but for the last few years he's been horrendous in our games.
I don't watch too many non-United games so can't comment on his other performances but he's been poor for us many a time recently if I recall.
The Vardy "foul" on Rafa follwed by the dive were two of the worst decisions I've ever seen, and I've not seen a decision change the balance of a game so much before.
The change in the atmosphere was so noticeable after that pen. He also prevented Falcao scoring to make it 4-1 (?) when he moved the crossbar down a few inches
posted on 25/4/16
lee mason is the worst referee
posted on 25/4/16
Other than the penalty mistake what else did he do wrong in that game?
..............
Just on the first penalty alone, he got two parts of it wrong.
Also Leicester's first goal was from a cross that was out of play.
IMO, there was a clear foul on Blackett by Vardy prior to the penalty, right in front of Clattenburg.
posted on 25/4/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
Was the 50 yarder the refs fault or the linesman?
................
Both.
posted on 25/4/16
Forgot about those incidents VC. Terrible game all round!
Just praying for a bit of luck ourselves on Sunday. Would like nothing more than to win via a jammy 93rd minute penalty or Leicester red card
posted on 25/4/16
comment by The Phenom - Thread Killer (U20037)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
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Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
more like Pedro Mendes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just nipped out there for a bit.
You've only just strengthened my case.
And VC has summed up his Leicester performance perfectly.
posted on 25/4/16
I really have no problem with officials getting the odd call wrong. I happens and officials are only human and don't have the benefit of replays.
But that Leicester game is probably the worst performance by an official I have ever seen in a United game for a long, long time.
posted on 25/4/16
comment by The Phenom - Thread Killer (U20037)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Fergies A Jolly Good Fellow (U17074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 6 minutes ago
I know he's had some high profile moments such as the Mikel incident (which turned out to be nothing) but I really don't think he's that bad.
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Leicester 5 - 3 Manchester United.
Just about sums Mark Clattenburg up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
more like Pedro Mendes
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That was the player's fault. He should have made sure from that range.
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