What's even more depressing is some have defended it by claiming grimes is better and veiri is better

Any good player will look much better with better players around them, allowing them to really show their teamwork and ability.

Each member of our team needs to improve (fitness, movement, control, passing, mental resilience, football nous) to allow all our players to show their true skills and ability

ach member of our team needs to improve (fitness, movement, control, passing, mental resilience, football nous) to allow all our players to show their true skills and a
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If the players aren't fit now they never will be they've had preseason

And what you saying is the players are rubbish and need to improve on everything

"Any good player will look much better with better players around them, allowing them to really show their teamwork and ability."

Bit of a vague statement, a good player at Stoke may look out of their depth at Man City.

A good player could help a bad player to look good,(or improve!)

A bad player could drag a good player down!..

But an average team has to improve, and the only way that will happen is by bringing the right players in and keeping the best off what you have!..

I wonder where we're going wrong?..

He's a quality player, simple as that. Those who watched him over the last 2 years week in week out all know this.

On a side note, Man Utd are gonna be a force this season. They smashed Bournmouth even without Pogba in the team.

First goal was a double Bamba, seriously bad defending. The second was a sliced cross but the third was good. Man U wernt great. Very early of course but they still have far too many average players like Herrera, Blind, Mata, Valencia, Rooney, Martial. Cook looked very comfortable

I agree with Shaun, Man U weren't all that they got lucky with a couple of goals through really bad defending....I can't see them winning the premier league...

Lol they cruised through that game

Shaun... Average... Look m8 no more beer today.

Fook they didn't cruise, it was a game they were expected to win, it was only Bournemouth, if they played like that against someone like Stoke or Everton I think they may not have cruised as some would put it...

Lay off the drugs rather!

Are you joking. It took 30 mins for man u to register a shot on target and the keeper coulda coulda controlled it! Then five mins later the defender fluffed his lines and Mata got blinking lucky. They wernt great but they are gonna be a threat under jose

"They wernt great but they are gonna be a threat under jose"

I think most would be a threat under Jose, he's one off those been there and done it bods!..

If we had him and those average player's you've mentioned, what would we do with this league?..

Put em in a.sheff wed or a Brentford shirt they'd walk it. There's something about this club that's not working atm. Negative ego about the club/place atm