Strange how we haven't heard from nasty creepy crawly things for a while. They must have crawled under a stone.
Must be the warm weather, as they've been noisy for years prior to now.
When do you think you should sack Pearson, Spart?
With the exception of the relegated clubs, Derby must have been the biggest spenders in the championship over the last two seasons, by a considerable margin.
If you were Mel, would you be happy?
I think 10 matches and if there isn't an upturn in fortunes Pearson's future has got to be considered.
It hasn't "got" to be considered at all. It depends what his job description was on being given employment. If it was that the team had to be in the top two after ten games then he will fail and would need to be sacked. If it was that he had three years by which time Derby needed to win promotion then we are still quite a distance short of that. If you are given a long-term project then there is time to make changes which are initially detrimental to performance but which are beneficial in the long run. You play golf, strett, if we use the term loosely. Sometimes a course can have terrible greens which don't drain well. The greenkeeper can hollow tine them and top-dress them but still they might be poor. In such a situation the best thing might be to dig up the greens and relay them on better-draining soil. For a while they play even worse until they have bedded in properly. Golfers grumble like crazy initially because they thought that all that was needed of the old greens was a bit of tweaking, and they would have been smooth as a baby's bum, but in a few years they look back and reluctantly agree that perhaps the greenkeeper got it right after all. You have to have the right base on which to build.
Just by way of an analogy.
Wise words Vidal. You don't think the forest fans are trying to wind us up a little do you and being sarcastic by any chance though?..
Not in the least. I am sure it is all fraternal concern for our present difficulties.
Played down in Dorset last week by the way which is why the golf metaphor is in my head. Parkstone, Ferndown, Isle of Purbeck, Remedy Oak. Fabulous courses. Had a gross one under at Parkstone too.
The problem with your analogy Vidal is that in football someone could simply buy your sand that the grass has been laid on.
It was not intended to be a very literal analogy, Iwas, just to illustrate that sometimes you have to accept that things may get worse before they get better. Here's another one: sometimes patients may need to take medicine that makes them feel bleeding awful, but it's necessary to cure a nasty ailment that won't get better on its own.
Nice one Vidal, great score!
Am off to Anglesey on Friday for 3 days playing
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
Had a gross one under at Parkstone too.
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Is that slang for a bad round Vidal, (me not being of the golfing type)? Are you really saying you should have been maybe 10 under?
I can't see how someone with such good breeding and educashun as yourself would be anything other than a scratch golfer you see.
Never played in Anglesey Baz although I did drive past Anglesey Golf Club a few weeks ago when we went to do a bit of coasteering. If you get any free time when you're there Newborough Forest is worth a visit - there are red squirrels in the forest and a lovely beach.
I play off seven Scouse, so I was eight under handicap that day thanks to one or two lucky putts. I did have a couple of crap rounds as well to be fair.
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 7 minutes ago
Never played in Anglesey Baz although I did drive past Anglesey Golf Club a few weeks ago when we went to do a bit of coasteering. If you get any free time when you're there Newborough Forest is worth a visit - there are red squirrels in the forest and a lovely beach.
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Vidal
If you continue the analogy with the golf Vidal, the members of the golf club would be, rightly upset if the amount of money invested in said golf course was the most in the area.
This after years of fairly poor play and having one particularly vocal, rotund member who was constantly calling for the green keeper to be sacked; the play improved almost overnight. The foundations were laid and the charge for greatness in the golf world was a sure thing. The members of the club were all sating it had ‘clicked’.
Then, when the course was playing really well, the owner sacked the green keeper and spent more money, only for the course to get worse, then repeats this again weird move again!
Add to that, the old famous course that is just down the road is starting to play better with limited resources, it's more entertaining and lots of puts are sunk.
Strett, deluded as ever.
At least we admit we are shiite.
Strett the number of games until Pearson is sacked is a number too large for you to comprehend as it is greater than the number of your fingers. It must be at least 13.
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 33 minutes ago
It was not intended to be a very literal analogy, Iwas, just to illustrate that sometimes you have to accept that things may get worse before they get better. Here's another one: sometimes patients may need to take medicine that makes them feel bleeding awful, but it's necessary to cure a nasty ailment that won't get better on its own.
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The problem with your analogy Vidal is that in football the player could have a sudden heart attack on the pitch therefore rendering all other medication useless.
comment by ScouseRam (U9675)
posted 2 minutes ago
Strett, deluded as ever.
At least we admit we are shiite.
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I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying that the return on the investment is not what MM will be expecting.
I used to have an admiration for the team spirit Derby had and the midfield that season when Keogh passed it to Zamora was unplayable at times.
That has been systematically dismantled by successive managers, which is down to the owner's short term desire to get promoted.
Believe me, as Forest fans we know that throwing money at it is no guarantee of success.
Why is everyone so serious on here today? Anyone would think football was more important than life and death.
Maybe the job description was score one goal and have 5 points? Lull the bookies into a false sense of security and then put on an enormous bet to cover the over inflated transfers that have been paid out.
Tbh it seems a bit of a gung-ho approach. Buy now, worry later. I think the only plan is throwing money at the team.
This coming from the kings of FFP
As far as i am aware we haven't yet had a transfer embargo and whilst we spent a bit last summer we received more than we spent this summer.
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posted on 14/9/16
Bad loser then spurt?
posted on 14/9/16
Strange how we haven't heard from nasty creepy crawly things for a while. They must have crawled under a stone.
Must be the warm weather, as they've been noisy for years prior to now.
posted on 14/9/16
😏
posted on 14/9/16
When do you think you should sack Pearson, Spart?
With the exception of the relegated clubs, Derby must have been the biggest spenders in the championship over the last two seasons, by a considerable margin.
If you were Mel, would you be happy?
I think 10 matches and if there isn't an upturn in fortunes Pearson's future has got to be considered.
posted on 14/9/16
It hasn't "got" to be considered at all. It depends what his job description was on being given employment. If it was that the team had to be in the top two after ten games then he will fail and would need to be sacked. If it was that he had three years by which time Derby needed to win promotion then we are still quite a distance short of that. If you are given a long-term project then there is time to make changes which are initially detrimental to performance but which are beneficial in the long run. You play golf, strett, if we use the term loosely. Sometimes a course can have terrible greens which don't drain well. The greenkeeper can hollow tine them and top-dress them but still they might be poor. In such a situation the best thing might be to dig up the greens and relay them on better-draining soil. For a while they play even worse until they have bedded in properly. Golfers grumble like crazy initially because they thought that all that was needed of the old greens was a bit of tweaking, and they would have been smooth as a baby's bum, but in a few years they look back and reluctantly agree that perhaps the greenkeeper got it right after all. You have to have the right base on which to build.
Just by way of an analogy.
posted on 14/9/16
Wise words Vidal. You don't think the forest fans are trying to wind us up a little do you and being sarcastic by any chance though?..
posted on 14/9/16
Just a thought
posted on 14/9/16
Not in the least. I am sure it is all fraternal concern for our present difficulties.
Played down in Dorset last week by the way which is why the golf metaphor is in my head. Parkstone, Ferndown, Isle of Purbeck, Remedy Oak. Fabulous courses. Had a gross one under at Parkstone too.
posted on 14/9/16
The problem with your analogy Vidal is that in football someone could simply buy your sand that the grass has been laid on.
posted on 14/9/16
It was not intended to be a very literal analogy, Iwas, just to illustrate that sometimes you have to accept that things may get worse before they get better. Here's another one: sometimes patients may need to take medicine that makes them feel bleeding awful, but it's necessary to cure a nasty ailment that won't get better on its own.
posted on 14/9/16
Nice one Vidal, great score!
Am off to Anglesey on Friday for 3 days playing
posted on 14/9/16
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
Had a gross one under at Parkstone too.
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Is that slang for a bad round Vidal, (me not being of the golfing type)? Are you really saying you should have been maybe 10 under?
I can't see how someone with such good breeding and educashun as yourself would be anything other than a scratch golfer you see.
posted on 14/9/16
Never played in Anglesey Baz although I did drive past Anglesey Golf Club a few weeks ago when we went to do a bit of coasteering. If you get any free time when you're there Newborough Forest is worth a visit - there are red squirrels in the forest and a lovely beach.
posted on 14/9/16
Street parlance
posted on 14/9/16
I play off seven Scouse, so I was eight under handicap that day thanks to one or two lucky putts. I did have a couple of crap rounds as well to be fair.
posted on 14/9/16
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 7 minutes ago
Never played in Anglesey Baz although I did drive past Anglesey Golf Club a few weeks ago when we went to do a bit of coasteering. If you get any free time when you're there Newborough Forest is worth a visit - there are red squirrels in the forest and a lovely beach.
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Vidal
posted on 14/9/16
If you continue the analogy with the golf Vidal, the members of the golf club would be, rightly upset if the amount of money invested in said golf course was the most in the area.
This after years of fairly poor play and having one particularly vocal, rotund member who was constantly calling for the green keeper to be sacked; the play improved almost overnight. The foundations were laid and the charge for greatness in the golf world was a sure thing. The members of the club were all sating it had ‘clicked’.
Then, when the course was playing really well, the owner sacked the green keeper and spent more money, only for the course to get worse, then repeats this again weird move again!
Add to that, the old famous course that is just down the road is starting to play better with limited resources, it's more entertaining and lots of puts are sunk.
posted on 14/9/16
Strett, deluded as ever.
At least we admit we are shiite.
posted on 14/9/16
Strett the number of games until Pearson is sacked is a number too large for you to comprehend as it is greater than the number of your fingers. It must be at least 13.
posted on 14/9/16
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 33 minutes ago
It was not intended to be a very literal analogy, Iwas, just to illustrate that sometimes you have to accept that things may get worse before they get better. Here's another one: sometimes patients may need to take medicine that makes them feel bleeding awful, but it's necessary to cure a nasty ailment that won't get better on its own.
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The problem with your analogy Vidal is that in football the player could have a sudden heart attack on the pitch therefore rendering all other medication useless.
posted on 14/9/16
comment by ScouseRam (U9675)
posted 2 minutes ago
Strett, deluded as ever.
At least we admit we are shiite.
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I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying that the return on the investment is not what MM will be expecting.
I used to have an admiration for the team spirit Derby had and the midfield that season when Keogh passed it to Zamora was unplayable at times.
That has been systematically dismantled by successive managers, which is down to the owner's short term desire to get promoted.
Believe me, as Forest fans we know that throwing money at it is no guarantee of success.
posted on 14/9/16
Why is everyone so serious on here today? Anyone would think football was more important than life and death.
posted on 14/9/16
Said like a true Scouse.
posted on 14/9/16
Maybe the job description was score one goal and have 5 points? Lull the bookies into a false sense of security and then put on an enormous bet to cover the over inflated transfers that have been paid out.
Tbh it seems a bit of a gung-ho approach. Buy now, worry later. I think the only plan is throwing money at the team.
posted on 14/9/16
This coming from the kings of FFP
As far as i am aware we haven't yet had a transfer embargo and whilst we spent a bit last summer we received more than we spent this summer.
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