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Haye v Joshua

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posted on 21/2/17

Can't see Haye beating AJ. If AJ gets past Klitch he should avoid him. Haye has done nothing the last 5 years.

posted on 21/2/17

comment by (Kash) I'm the Mané, I'm the Mané - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
Can't see Haye beating AJ. If AJ gets past Klitch he should avoid him. Haye has done nothing the last 5 years.
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Based on what? Who has Joshua beaten?

comment by EDDIEVH (U8193)

posted on 21/2/17

Obviously Haye should spark Bellew inside 3 but the Wlad v Joshua fight is very interesting and will be a good indication of how good Joshua is.

At the moment it is difficult to predict how AJ v Haye would go but judging it generally on how Haye's heavyweight career has gone then Haye will probably keep his distance and look to ko AJ with one single shot all night long. The question will be whether AJ walks on to it, which he may as he seems to have a little too much faith in his chin right now, or whether AJ can keep Haye away and possibly win on points.

posted on 21/2/17

Haye always seems to be a big Cruiserweight, AJ is an actual Heavyweight, so if it comes down to it I think AJ will take it.

If AJ beats Wlad then I see him going over to the states and start looking at a bout with Wilder. To be honest thats where the big bucks are going to be for him and they would lap it up over there, he is an exciting fighter and he could clean up the division.

posted on 21/2/17

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comment by Mattyp (U8926)

posted on 21/2/17

Aj vs Wlad-The biggest fight in the division at the moment. This fight hinges on one integral factor, is Wlad passed it or not. If the same Wlad that fought Fury shows up, I can see AJ dominating him and maybe stopping him late. If Wlad comes in reinvigorated and more like his former self, AJ will be pushed to his limits and we will see how good the boy really is. Fascinating match up because of all the unknowns regarding both men, in particular Wlad.

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100% agree, for me it all hinges on what Wlad turns up.

If Wlad gets back to his best then its a really tough fight to call.

posted on 21/2/17

Got offered a ticket to AJ vs Wlad by a mate as someone he was going with pulled out. Assuming I'll be so far back I would have been better staying at home or in the boozer, but should be a cracker non the less.

Don't think AJ vs Haye will happen to be honest.

posted on 21/2/17

would be so sweet when wlad ices femi in front of the casuals and hearns cash cow goes t1ts up

comment by Superb (U6486)

posted on 21/2/17

Haye beats AJ quite easily in my opinon. Whether the fight ever happens remains to be seen. Can see exactly why Joshua would try to avoid Haye as his speed and movement would cause AJ all sorts of problems.

Let's see how Haye looks against Bellew though as this is his first big fight since Chisora. 5 years is a long time.

posted on 21/2/17

comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 8 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) I'm the Mané, I'm the Mané - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
Can't see Haye beating AJ. If AJ gets past Klitch he should avoid him. Haye has done nothing the last 5 years.
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Based on what? Who has Joshua beaten?
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Size, height, power, youth all in AJ favour. AJ has been active while Haye has done nothing since beating Chisora and when he beats Bellew it will mean nothing in the HW division.

posted on 21/2/17

Haye will beat both Bellew and Joshua imo

Joshua is way too robotic and stiff in his movement. Haye is far too slick in the ring for AJ.

Bellew is a loudmouth who will realise the scale of the task facing him when the first bell goes.

posted on 22/2/17

comment by (Kash) I'm the Mané, I'm the Mané - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 20 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by The Hayemaker (U14625)
posted 8 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by (Kash) I'm the Mané, I'm the Mané - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
Can't see Haye beating AJ. If AJ gets past Klitch he should avoid him. Haye has done nothing the last 5 years.
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Based on what? Who has Joshua beaten?
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Size, height, power, youth all in AJ favour. AJ has been active while Haye has done nothing since beating Chisora and when he beats Bellew it will mean nothing in the HW division.
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I would say that Haye has the power advantage over AJ and speed advantage so its not as clear cut as that in my opinion.

Inactivity could play a part I agree but I don't think it is the be all and end all. Haye has much more experience at championship level and it could also be argued should be fresh due to inactivity.

All depends on what perspective you choose to look at.

posted on 22/2/17

Styles make fights as the old saying goes and I personally think Haye is the most difficult match up for Joshua at the moment. He has the skills and ability to cause AJ all manor of issues. Especially as AJ doesn't really have great head movement. He has quick hands but his feet don't move as quick.

posted on 22/2/17

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posted on 23/2/17

Hayes should win reasonably comfortably against Bellew.. reminds me of the Maccaranelli fight although this version of Haye has been really inactive and doesn't possess the same speed of hand. To counter that though he has more power in those hands.

The only way Bellew could win would be to catch him cold early and make it a messy fight. Just can't see it though.

The Joshua fight, I was really confident about Joshua walking it when the fight was made but the closer it's getting the more doubt is creeping in. This is Wlad's last big hurrah and he'll be as motivated more than he has been for any fight in the last decade.

They're both a similar size. Joshua is leaner and quicker, yet he's never come close to facing someone with such a precise and ram rod jab, and who can fight with his brain.. knowing when to smother, clinch etc.

I still think Joshua will win but it wouldn't surprise me to see him really tested and possibly beaten.

posted on 23/2/17

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 day, 13 hours ago
Haye beats AJ quite easily in my opinon. Whether the fight ever happens remains to be seen. Can see exactly why Joshua would try to avoid Haye as his speed and movement would cause AJ all sorts of problems.

Let's see how Haye looks against Bellew though as this is his first big fight since Chisora. 5 years is a long time.
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Joshua will always struggle against shorter a HW as their movement/head movement coupled with the use of short hooks and uppercut would cause him fits.

posted on 24/2/17

Would love to see Bellew spark out Haye but I'm not convinced he will. Although a lot is said about Haye's speed, is it any quicker than any cruiserweight Bellew has faced? Plus is Haye as quick now as he was in 2011? Haye by KO within 6.

Klit should have the fire in his belly after basically cruising for several years. He's been inactive for a while though and I'm not too sure AJ is slick/awkward enough to truly puzzle him the way Fury did. If I had to pick I'd say Klit on points

Don't see AJ vs Haye happening at all. Hearn has lined his pockets once and if AJ wins his fight it's only logical he'll go after all the belts rather than let Haye into the picture. Quite right too as Haye should earn his way in rather than talk himself into contention.

posted on 24/2/17

Forgot to add that if AJ loses then Haye will switch his attention elsewhere anyway

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