comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 36 seconds ago
When he was injured should have spent his time getting fitter instead of shopping and globetrotting watching his wife play tennis. Senior players voiced this as an issue. No loss as he resembled Mrs Doubtfire when he arrived and his backside got no smaller watching tennis,total waste of money.
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bertrand small (U19359)
Yes, because anyone who watches tennis or goes to the shops can't possibly be keeping fit, can they?
Oh dear me.
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 1 minute ago
When he was injured should have spent his time getting fitter instead of shopping and globetrotting watching his wife play tennis. Senior players voiced this as an issue. No loss as he resembled Mrs Doubtfire when he arrived and his backside got no smaller watching tennis,total waste of money.
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Yup, as I said people have very short memories.
And as for the waste of money - and between wages, signing on fees, golden goodbyes etc it must have added up - what really grates is that when they sold him the Bayern hierarchy basically said "great player, if in good shape we'd never sell him, but he's a crock, so yours".
They also said what Jose was doing was a disgrace and that they would happily take him back to then make absolutely so offer to take him back.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 55 seconds ago
They also said what Jose was doing was a disgrace and that they would happily take him back to then make absolutely so offer to take him back.
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Yeah, that was funny. Classic Bayern
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy's Keen (U11635)
It does seem that way. I'm going to leave him in his own little deluded bubble.
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Bastians gone. Jose was right not to entertain the thought of making him a first team player bar games against the likes of Wigan
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Yeh Jose was right not to rotate his squad more and utilise a player like schweinsteiger
And then let him leave coming into the busiest part of the season
😄
comment by Roy's Keen (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy's Keen (U11635)
It does seem that way. I'm going to leave him in his own little deluded bubble.
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Bastians gone. Jose was right not to entertain the thought of making him a first team player bar games against the likes of Wigan
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Yeh Jose was right not to rotate his squad more and utilise a player like schweinsteiger
And then let him leave coming into the busiest part of the season
😄
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Bastian isn't up to playing in the top flight anymore.
Hence why at 32 he's off to the US.
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
Like Defoe wasn't up to it when he left?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
Like Defoe wasn't up to it when he left?
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Defoe hasn't had years and years of injury problems though
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keen (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy's Keen (U11635)
It does seem that way. I'm going to leave him in his own little deluded bubble.
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Bastians gone. Jose was right not to entertain the thought of making him a first team player bar games against the likes of Wigan
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Yeh Jose was right not to rotate his squad more and utilise a player like schweinsteiger
And then let him leave coming into the busiest part of the season
😄
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Bastian isn't up to playing in the top flight anymore.
Hence why at 32 he's off to the US.
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Off to the US
As could be Rooney and also Carrick in a few months
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
bertrand small (U19359)
Yes, because anyone who watches tennis or goes to the shops can't possibly be keeping fit, can they?
Oh dear me.
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No. Clearly not doing enough. Oh dear another fitness expert with German descendants.
Senior players voiced concerns,you do understand that bit don't you?
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
You can never admit you've made a mistake, can you?
Fact is, not every player who heads west is incapable of playing top flight football anymore.
Winston
No, the fact is we know very little but there has been little evidence to suggest Bastian does still have what it takes to play at the highest level. You've also pretty much completely ignored the fat Jose has always operated small first team squads.
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
bertrand small (U19359)
Yes, because anyone who watches tennis or goes to the shops can't possibly be keeping fit, can they?
Oh dear me.
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No. Clearly not doing enough. Oh dear another fitness expert with German descendants.
Senior players voiced concerns,you do understand that bit don't you?
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What a load of bolx
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
You can never admit you've made a mistake, can you?
Fact is, not every player who heads west is incapable of playing top flight football anymore.
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He's 32. If he still 'had it' he could go to a number of clubs in Europe. But as he's off to the US he's finished.
If Jose thought he had something to give he would be playing every week much as Zlatan and Carrick are.
bertrand small (U19359)
'clearly not doing enough'
By being seen at the shops?
You really are delusional.
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
'he could'
But he may have chosen not to.
Going to America does not automatically mean he's not capable.
You need to accept that, as it is a fact.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
'he could'
But he may have chosen not to.
Going to America does not automatically mean he's not capable.
You need to accept that, as it is a fact.
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Let's look at the evidence.
Bayern sell him because his injuries are an issue. Continues to have bad injuries at United. Jose shows no interest in using him bar the odd game against bums. No other club in Europe shows any interest at all. He ends up going on a free transfer on a one year contract to Chicago. At 32.
Do you seriously expect to see him back in Europe in a year?
His old mate at Bayern said he may well retire.
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
No, I don't expect to see him back.
That's irrelevant to whether he could do a job for a top club or not.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
No, I don't expect to see him back.
That's irrelevant to whether he could do a job for a top club or not.
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Why at 32 with his exemplary career is he off to Chicago?
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
Lifestyle? Money? Regular first team football?
Who knows.
I was merely making the point that him going to America is not 'proof' that he is not capable of playing PL football, as you were making out.
Defoe is proof.
Henry is also proof.
He showed enough in his appearances this season that he still had enough in the tank to help out in this busy part of the season. That Jose chose to ignore him is his loss and that Jose is letting him go so close to the end of this busy season is just plain stupid imo
One thing his cameo appearances this season also proved is that the vast majority of utd fans respected and liked bastian unlike the usual Jose fan girls on this board.
His old mate at Bayern said he may well retire.
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Carrick has also said he may retire
Henry's isn't really proof, he played 4 games on loan at Arsenal.
I think you're forgetting the reason he was sold by Bayern, was missing most of last season for us and likely the main reason he was sold, that being his knees are gone. Any player who may have returned to a high level of European football after the MLS would have unlikely had major injury problems.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 11 seconds ago
Henry's isn't really proof, he played 4 games on loan at Arsenal.
I think you're forgetting the reason he was sold by Bayern, was missing most of last season for us and likely the main reason he was sold, that being his knees are gone. Any player who may have returned to a high level of European football after the MLS would have unlikely had major injury problems.
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posted on 21/3/17
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 36 seconds ago
When he was injured should have spent his time getting fitter instead of shopping and globetrotting watching his wife play tennis. Senior players voiced this as an issue. No loss as he resembled Mrs Doubtfire when he arrived and his backside got no smaller watching tennis,total waste of money.
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This
posted on 21/3/17
bertrand small (U19359)
Yes, because anyone who watches tennis or goes to the shops can't possibly be keeping fit, can they?
Oh dear me.
posted on 21/3/17
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 1 minute ago
When he was injured should have spent his time getting fitter instead of shopping and globetrotting watching his wife play tennis. Senior players voiced this as an issue. No loss as he resembled Mrs Doubtfire when he arrived and his backside got no smaller watching tennis,total waste of money.
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Yup, as I said people have very short memories.
And as for the waste of money - and between wages, signing on fees, golden goodbyes etc it must have added up - what really grates is that when they sold him the Bayern hierarchy basically said "great player, if in good shape we'd never sell him, but he's a crock, so yours".
posted on 21/3/17
They also said what Jose was doing was a disgrace and that they would happily take him back to then make absolutely so offer to take him back.
posted on 21/3/17
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 55 seconds ago
They also said what Jose was doing was a disgrace and that they would happily take him back to then make absolutely so offer to take him back.
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Yeah, that was funny. Classic Bayern
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy's Keen (U11635)
It does seem that way. I'm going to leave him in his own little deluded bubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bastians gone. Jose was right not to entertain the thought of making him a first team player bar games against the likes of Wigan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh Jose was right not to rotate his squad more and utilise a player like schweinsteiger
And then let him leave coming into the busiest part of the season
😄
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Roy's Keen (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy's Keen (U11635)
It does seem that way. I'm going to leave him in his own little deluded bubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bastians gone. Jose was right not to entertain the thought of making him a first team player bar games against the likes of Wigan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh Jose was right not to rotate his squad more and utilise a player like schweinsteiger
And then let him leave coming into the busiest part of the season
😄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bastian isn't up to playing in the top flight anymore.
Hence why at 32 he's off to the US.
posted on 21/3/17
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
Like Defoe wasn't up to it when he left?
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
Like Defoe wasn't up to it when he left?
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Defoe hasn't had years and years of injury problems though
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keen (U11635)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Roy's Keen (U11635)
It does seem that way. I'm going to leave him in his own little deluded bubble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bastians gone. Jose was right not to entertain the thought of making him a first team player bar games against the likes of Wigan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh Jose was right not to rotate his squad more and utilise a player like schweinsteiger
And then let him leave coming into the busiest part of the season
😄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bastian isn't up to playing in the top flight anymore.
Hence why at 32 he's off to the US.
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Off to the US
As could be Rooney and also Carrick in a few months
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
bertrand small (U19359)
Yes, because anyone who watches tennis or goes to the shops can't possibly be keeping fit, can they?
Oh dear me.
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No. Clearly not doing enough. Oh dear another fitness expert with German descendants.
Senior players voiced concerns,you do understand that bit don't you?
posted on 21/3/17
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
You can never admit you've made a mistake, can you?
Fact is, not every player who heads west is incapable of playing top flight football anymore.
posted on 21/3/17
Winston
No, the fact is we know very little but there has been little evidence to suggest Bastian does still have what it takes to play at the highest level. You've also pretty much completely ignored the fat Jose has always operated small first team squads.
posted on 21/3/17
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
bertrand small (U19359)
Yes, because anyone who watches tennis or goes to the shops can't possibly be keeping fit, can they?
Oh dear me.
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No. Clearly not doing enough. Oh dear another fitness expert with German descendants.
Senior players voiced concerns,you do understand that bit don't you?
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What a load of bolx
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
You can never admit you've made a mistake, can you?
Fact is, not every player who heads west is incapable of playing top flight football anymore.
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He's 32. If he still 'had it' he could go to a number of clubs in Europe. But as he's off to the US he's finished.
If Jose thought he had something to give he would be playing every week much as Zlatan and Carrick are.
posted on 21/3/17
bertrand small (U19359)
'clearly not doing enough'
By being seen at the shops?
You really are delusional.
posted on 21/3/17
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
'he could'
But he may have chosen not to.
Going to America does not automatically mean he's not capable.
You need to accept that, as it is a fact.
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
'he could'
But he may have chosen not to.
Going to America does not automatically mean he's not capable.
You need to accept that, as it is a fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let's look at the evidence.
Bayern sell him because his injuries are an issue. Continues to have bad injuries at United. Jose shows no interest in using him bar the odd game against bums. No other club in Europe shows any interest at all. He ends up going on a free transfer on a one year contract to Chicago. At 32.
Do you seriously expect to see him back in Europe in a year?
His old mate at Bayern said he may well retire.
posted on 21/3/17
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
No, I don't expect to see him back.
That's irrelevant to whether he could do a job for a top club or not.
posted on 21/3/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
No, I don't expect to see him back.
That's irrelevant to whether he could do a job for a top club or not.
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Why at 32 with his exemplary career is he off to Chicago?
posted on 21/3/17
Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
Lifestyle? Money? Regular first team football?
Who knows.
I was merely making the point that him going to America is not 'proof' that he is not capable of playing PL football, as you were making out.
Defoe is proof.
Henry is also proof.
posted on 21/3/17
He showed enough in his appearances this season that he still had enough in the tank to help out in this busy part of the season. That Jose chose to ignore him is his loss and that Jose is letting him go so close to the end of this busy season is just plain stupid imo
One thing his cameo appearances this season also proved is that the vast majority of utd fans respected and liked bastian unlike the usual Jose fan girls on this board.
posted on 21/3/17
His old mate at Bayern said he may well retire.
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Carrick has also said he may retire
posted on 21/3/17
Henry's isn't really proof, he played 4 games on loan at Arsenal.
I think you're forgetting the reason he was sold by Bayern, was missing most of last season for us and likely the main reason he was sold, that being his knees are gone. Any player who may have returned to a high level of European football after the MLS would have unlikely had major injury problems.
posted on 21/3/17
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 11 seconds ago
Henry's isn't really proof, he played 4 games on loan at Arsenal.
I think you're forgetting the reason he was sold by Bayern, was missing most of last season for us and likely the main reason he was sold, that being his knees are gone. Any player who may have returned to a high level of European football after the MLS would have unlikely had major injury problems.
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