we weren't brilliant in a diamond and had to change it after inter showed it up and teams started holding their own.
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Which manager was that lmao? At inter?
Alex was always super solid for Chelsea and didn't make like even half the mistakes Cahill makes.
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Alex was brilliant up until about 2010/2011 then he started to go downhill a bit, not sure if it was the injuries, and in 2011-2012 he was fkin crap and i mean crap, pretty much every game he played he gave a penalty away or done something stupid, think he gave something like 4 penalties away in 5 games, turnbull saved 2 of them though from what i can remember.
But yeh, he was excellent the first 2-3 seasons then just went downhill sadly. Will always be the tank though, most powerful free kicks i've ever seen
But he was not " always super solid " so i know you love to talk endless bollux but try not too all the time
I was talking about him being solid in the title winning season with Ancelotti. He wasn't that bad in 10/11 though, the same as most players really who weren't like that good that year and in 11/12 he like hardly even played before being sold.
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I was talking about him being solid in the title winning season with Ancelotti. He wasn't that bad in 10/11 though, the same as most players really who weren't like that good that year and in 11/12 he like hardly even played before being sold.
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He played 16 PL games in the title winning season.. that's not even half
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I was talking about him being solid in the title winning season with Ancelotti. He wasn't that bad in 10/11 though, the same as most players really who weren't like that good that year and in 11/12 he like hardly even played before being sold.
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He played 16 PL games in the title winning season.. that's not even half
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True, but as I recall it was Alex coming back and replacing an increasingly dodgy Carvalho in the lineup that helped reinvigorate us. As I recall the same thing had happened the previous season, Hiddink dropped Riccy for Alex and the defense shored right up
Carvalho was great as always in that season but he got an ankle injury in about march, that's why Alex played as we only had 2 CB's
Carvalho started out quite well but as I recall was one of the bigger offenders in our winter slump that year (although so was Cech to be fair). In particular I seem to recall a 3-3 with Everton where they absolutely tore him apart
For me we hung on to Riccy about a year too long
Yeah click dude is right, Carvalho was dodgy af that season and Alex was in the team for most of the second half of the season.
Could you list the respective transfer prices of Conte's side? And their wages.
Then do the same thing with the Tottenham side they played at WHL.
I have a sneaky suspicion one owner spent hundreds and hundreds of millions more on the losers I mean to the tune of about 500 million
Conte the legend. Most expensive side in the league. No European games. Highest wages. No injuries. Yep - Conte the genius
Financially Doped v Financially Doped
comment by jar jar winks (U21185)
posted 46 minutes ago
Could you list the respective transfer prices of Conte's side? And their wages.
Then do the same thing with the Tottenham side they played at WHL.
I have a sneaky suspicion one owner spent hundreds and hundreds of millions more on the losersI mean to the tune of about 500 million
Conte the legend. Most expensive side in the league. No European games. Highest wages. No injuries. Yep - Conte the genius
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I guess by your logic then Leicester are having a better season than Man City given their result over them? Idiot
Get back to your own board you ignorant khunt
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posted 49 minutes ago
Financially Doped v Financially Doped
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Champions v Champions as opposed to comparing two spurs managers - potless v potless
Whut happened? Lmao, why did this happen?
Click and wahl are right Carvalho was poor that season, I and a lot of others wanted him dropped for Alex who was impressing in the few cup / European appearances he got. But i was a Ricky injury that eventually led to Alex getting a place in the starting XI.
I really liked Alex, at his best he was definitely better than Cahill, maybe not quite as good as Luiz (perhaps the biggest thing Luiz has over him as a defender in a 2 man partnership is Luiz will always be more vocal and someone the team looks to when losing) . But yeah by the time AVB came think all his injuries caught up with him, made a fair few mistakes and duly sold.
It's an interesting comparison (our team vs Carlo''s) but obvs can't do a player by player comparison with the two very different formations, except comparing Carlo's front three vs Costa, Pedro and Hazard.
I think player-wise the ancelotti had slightly better players at his disposal (just), but Conte's team is better. We are currently as formidable as Jose's team 04/05 imo. Ancelotti's team scores lots of goals, but I'm not sure if strategically he's the same level as Conte or Jose was. We're on a better points per game as well, although still 10 games left and we've undoubtably benefited from no CL.
I do agree that a game between the two teams would have been an entertaining watch!
Chelsea's best football came in the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 that season.
we weren't brilliant in a diamond and had to change it after inter showed it up and teams started holding their own.
also in terms of ability - mikel-lampard-ballack-malouda in a diamond is impressive but i'd say comparable to what we have now.
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We wasn't too bad in a diamond, but Essien's injury in combination with teams exposing the formation's natural weakness (being the flanks) lead to the change.
Essien, Lampard, Ballack & Deco (the original selection for it) would've dominated Kante & Matic even with Azpilicueta pushing into midfield. Two many good players in it, Kante would've been pulled apart. But like I said, on the counter Ancelotti's side would've had serious problems. Cole & Ivanovic would've been stretched by the wing backs, Essien would've been harassed by Costa leaving Hazard & Pedro to blow past two slow CB's whatever the combination was.
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Cole & Brana. Cole had to get so far forward early in 2009, when those four occupied the diamond, I remember him scoring two goals in a month.
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posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Ancelotti's team was better, but Conte's the better manager of the two. Pretty much sums it up.
Interesting to know which team would win. Anceotti's diamond would've absolutely owned Conte's midfield (even Kante isn't that good) but Conte's would've destroyed Ancelotti's on the counter attack, particularly down the flanks. Would be a bloody good game actually
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Chelsea's best football came in the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 that season.
we weren't brilliant in a diamond and had to change it after inter showed it up and teams started holding their own.
also in terms of ability - mikel-lampard-ballack-malouda in a diamond is impressive but i'd say comparable to what we have now.
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Only reason we won the league that year is because mikel got injured and ballack stood into the DM role.
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posted on 26/3/17
we weren't brilliant in a diamond and had to change it after inter showed it up and teams started holding their own.
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Which manager was that lmao? At inter?
posted on 26/3/17
Alex was always super solid for Chelsea and didn't make like even half the mistakes Cahill makes.
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Alex was brilliant up until about 2010/2011 then he started to go downhill a bit, not sure if it was the injuries, and in 2011-2012 he was fkin crap and i mean crap, pretty much every game he played he gave a penalty away or done something stupid, think he gave something like 4 penalties away in 5 games, turnbull saved 2 of them though from what i can remember.
But yeh, he was excellent the first 2-3 seasons then just went downhill sadly. Will always be the tank though, most powerful free kicks i've ever seen
But he was not " always super solid " so i know you love to talk endless bollux but try not too all the time
posted on 26/3/17
I was talking about him being solid in the title winning season with Ancelotti. He wasn't that bad in 10/11 though, the same as most players really who weren't like that good that year and in 11/12 he like hardly even played before being sold.
posted on 26/3/17
comment by Cesc + Costa - The Spanish Duo (U21341)
posted 4 minutes ago
I was talking about him being solid in the title winning season with Ancelotti. He wasn't that bad in 10/11 though, the same as most players really who weren't like that good that year and in 11/12 he like hardly even played before being sold.
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He played 16 PL games in the title winning season.. that's not even half
posted on 26/3/17
comment by Into the Sunset, or into the Abyss I'm always cruising baby (Formerly Oscar). #TeamFury. Haven 15/16 H2H League Winner (U12980)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Cesc + Costa - The Spanish Duo (U21341)
posted 4 minutes ago
I was talking about him being solid in the title winning season with Ancelotti. He wasn't that bad in 10/11 though, the same as most players really who weren't like that good that year and in 11/12 he like hardly even played before being sold.
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He played 16 PL games in the title winning season.. that's not even half
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True, but as I recall it was Alex coming back and replacing an increasingly dodgy Carvalho in the lineup that helped reinvigorate us. As I recall the same thing had happened the previous season, Hiddink dropped Riccy for Alex and the defense shored right up
posted on 26/3/17
Carvalho was great as always in that season but he got an ankle injury in about march, that's why Alex played as we only had 2 CB's
posted on 26/3/17
Carvalho started out quite well but as I recall was one of the bigger offenders in our winter slump that year (although so was Cech to be fair). In particular I seem to recall a 3-3 with Everton where they absolutely tore him apart
For me we hung on to Riccy about a year too long
posted on 26/3/17
Yeah click dude is right, Carvalho was dodgy af that season and Alex was in the team for most of the second half of the season.
posted on 26/3/17
Could you list the respective transfer prices of Conte's side? And their wages.
Then do the same thing with the Tottenham side they played at WHL.
I have a sneaky suspicion one owner spent hundreds and hundreds of millions more on the losers I mean to the tune of about 500 million
Conte the legend. Most expensive side in the league. No European games. Highest wages. No injuries. Yep - Conte the genius
posted on 26/3/17
Wat
posted on 26/3/17
Financially Doped v Financially Doped
posted on 26/3/17
comment by jar jar winks (U21185)
posted 46 minutes ago
Could you list the respective transfer prices of Conte's side? And their wages.
Then do the same thing with the Tottenham side they played at WHL.
I have a sneaky suspicion one owner spent hundreds and hundreds of millions more on the losersI mean to the tune of about 500 million
Conte the legend. Most expensive side in the league. No European games. Highest wages. No injuries. Yep - Conte the genius
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I guess by your logic then Leicester are having a better season than Man City given their result over them? Idiot
Get back to your own board you ignorant khunt
posted on 26/3/17
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 49 minutes ago
Financially Doped v Financially Doped
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Champions v Champions as opposed to comparing two spurs managers - potless v potless
posted on 26/3/17
Whut happened? Lmao, why did this happen?
posted on 26/3/17
Click and wahl are right Carvalho was poor that season, I and a lot of others wanted him dropped for Alex who was impressing in the few cup / European appearances he got. But i was a Ricky injury that eventually led to Alex getting a place in the starting XI.
I really liked Alex, at his best he was definitely better than Cahill, maybe not quite as good as Luiz (perhaps the biggest thing Luiz has over him as a defender in a 2 man partnership is Luiz will always be more vocal and someone the team looks to when losing) . But yeah by the time AVB came think all his injuries caught up with him, made a fair few mistakes and duly sold.
It's an interesting comparison (our team vs Carlo''s) but obvs can't do a player by player comparison with the two very different formations, except comparing Carlo's front three vs Costa, Pedro and Hazard.
posted on 26/3/17
I think player-wise the ancelotti had slightly better players at his disposal (just), but Conte's team is better. We are currently as formidable as Jose's team 04/05 imo. Ancelotti's team scores lots of goals, but I'm not sure if strategically he's the same level as Conte or Jose was. We're on a better points per game as well, although still 10 games left and we've undoubtably benefited from no CL.
I do agree that a game between the two teams would have been an entertaining watch!
posted on 26/3/17
Chelsea's best football came in the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 that season.
we weren't brilliant in a diamond and had to change it after inter showed it up and teams started holding their own.
also in terms of ability - mikel-lampard-ballack-malouda in a diamond is impressive but i'd say comparable to what we have now.
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We wasn't too bad in a diamond, but Essien's injury in combination with teams exposing the formation's natural weakness (being the flanks) lead to the change.
Essien, Lampard, Ballack & Deco (the original selection for it) would've dominated Kante & Matic even with Azpilicueta pushing into midfield. Two many good players in it, Kante would've been pulled apart. But like I said, on the counter Ancelotti's side would've had serious problems. Cole & Ivanovic would've been stretched by the wing backs, Essien would've been harassed by Costa leaving Hazard & Pedro to blow past two slow CB's whatever the combination was.
posted on 27/3/17
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posted on 27/3/17
Cole & Brana. Cole had to get so far forward early in 2009, when those four occupied the diamond, I remember him scoring two goals in a month.
posted on 27/3/17
comment by NPE - The New Romantic (U20804)
posted 1 day, 5 hours ago
comment by The Devil's Advocate's Advocate - I Represent Him (U6522)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Ancelotti's team was better, but Conte's the better manager of the two. Pretty much sums it up.
Interesting to know which team would win. Anceotti's diamond would've absolutely owned Conte's midfield (even Kante isn't that good) but Conte's would've destroyed Ancelotti's on the counter attack, particularly down the flanks. Would be a bloody good game actually
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Chelsea's best football came in the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 that season.
we weren't brilliant in a diamond and had to change it after inter showed it up and teams started holding their own.
also in terms of ability - mikel-lampard-ballack-malouda in a diamond is impressive but i'd say comparable to what we have now.
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Only reason we won the league that year is because mikel got injured and ballack stood into the DM role.
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