We need proper goalscorers and better options in the middle in terms of squad depth and we'll be completing next year,
Rooney leaving gives me hope for next season.
(Wayne Rooney was reportedly seen getting close to a mystery brunette during a boozy night in a downmarket pub into the early hours of the morning.)
Club legend but the football has left him
2. Mourinho has a knack for buying to fit- he gets it right compared to most managers
3. Pogba and Mkhi- will(should)get better next season
Having said that, we need cl. Griezmann won't join to play europa
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
Good article.
I don't think I feel any more confident approaching the end of this season than I did the last in terms of expectations for the following term when considering results alone.
But I'm sure enjoying watching us more than I did last season, and I'm optimistic that given more time Mourinho will improve us.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
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Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
if fans don't moan when it doesn't happen it probably means they don't care that much. Moaning is what all supporters do, yet most still turn up for the next game.
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
if fans don't moan when it doesn't happen it probably means they don't care that much. Moaning is what all supporters do, yet most still turn up for the next game.
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True, shame the serial moaners this season didnt have the same view under the last regime.
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
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Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
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Says the hypocrite who did that last season
Maybe it just took the LVG brigade longer to realise that for MAN UNITED the biggest football club in the world that what we are seeing on the pitch is just not good enough or acceptable. To be fair to the LVG stalwarts what Jose is dishing up atm is no better spectacle.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
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Says the hypocrite who did that last season
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What did i celebrate? Oh yeah, a game we won inspite of sloth and doubly celebrated watching him getting the sack before even lifting the cup
Only hypicrite is you muddy boy. #context
Jose
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
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What are you even on about?
So fans who are far from happy with our league form, attack and some even with the manager aren't allowed to voice their concerns or celebrate a trophy because an armchair fan like you says so?
Your logic on arguments always perplexes me. Just because people whine doest mean they don't support or celebrate. Very bizarre argument there.
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
While this season has been far from perfect I think there are still areas to be optimistic about. The past 2 managers were rightly sacked and if Jose fails to improve on this season then there's a very real chance he'll be gone too. The EL ain't gonna be easy but if we can win that I'll be delighted.
Notable the different take on 'form' between supporters who pay and follow their team and fans who don't.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you even on about?
So fans who are far from happy with our league form, attack and some even with the manager aren't allowed to voice their concerns or celebrate a trophy because an armchair fan like you says so?
Your logic on arguments always perplexes me. Just because people whine doest mean they don't support or celebrate. Very bizarre argument there.
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
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What youve said is true. But when you give up on top four with 3 months gone it makes your point invalid because complaining about play (style attack etc) is fine, but to cry all season because we arent 'getting top four' is pathetic considering we have played chit all season really yet find ourselves a point off third, one cup won and a EL semi to play.
I might be armchair but not a plastic crybaby like you.
I give up on top 4 when we went 10pts behind. How often do teams go 10 pts off top 4 (with Europa football to contend with too which was part of my argument) and get back in ???
It was being realistic. We've been up against it ever since. We've made a better fist of it since Xmas and not lost a league game but we have drawn about 5 or 6 too many.
We've been bookies outsiders since that day too so it's not like I was writing us off when we were sitting pretty.
I could see the flaws in the team and didn't fancy us. I still don't. Maybe we can win the weakest Europa in yrs to save our blushes but we will have to wait and see on tbat. Hopefully we do.
Are am I only allowed to make predictions if they are positive ones then?
As an 'armchair' fan of united for just under 30 years, regardless of what situation my team find themselves in, ive always believed. That has shown over the years even if the end result isnt ideal, which is why i find ut absurd to give up on something like the top four all the way back in October.
Kindly take your optimism to RedCafe.
It has no place here.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kindly take your optimism to RedCafe.
It has no place here.
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Mad isnt it. Giving up on top four about now ypu can understand. But in october? Wtf is the point in followi g your team if you already gave up when the seasons only just begun? All that money se85 must spend too just to have already given up in October. Jesus wept.
No need to be pessamistic or optimistic.
Realistic is our best bet.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
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This is the hardest top 6 battle ever according to some
It's grating that so many people deal in absolutes on here.
Generic debate:
Person A "X is a negative."
Person B "Y is a positive."
Person A "Stop deflecting."
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you even on about?
So fans who are far from happy with our league form, attack and some even with the manager aren't allowed to voice their concerns or celebrate a trophy because an armchair fan like you says so?
Your logic on arguments always perplexes me. Just because people whine doest mean they don't support or celebrate. Very bizarre argument there.
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't take him seriously. No one does. Himself included
Um....nowhere in the article does it say fans can't moan. We all do it.
And SE85, we all see flaws in the team. This board is so absolute about opinions. If your optimistic it means you're just papering over cracks and see nothing wrong, If you're moaning it means you're a miserable git that doesn't back the manager.
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7 Reasons to be optimistic
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posted on 1/5/17
Great article
🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸
posted on 1/5/17
We need proper goalscorers and better options in the middle in terms of squad depth and we'll be completing next year,
posted on 1/5/17
Rooney leaving gives me hope for next season.
(Wayne Rooney was reportedly seen getting close to a mystery brunette during a boozy night in a downmarket pub into the early hours of the morning.)
Club legend but the football has left him
2. Mourinho has a knack for buying to fit- he gets it right compared to most managers
3. Pogba and Mkhi- will(should)get better next season
Having said that, we need cl. Griezmann won't join to play europa
posted on 1/5/17
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
posted on 1/5/17
"Papering"
posted on 1/5/17
Good article.
I don't think I feel any more confident approaching the end of this season than I did the last in terms of expectations for the following term when considering results alone.
But I'm sure enjoying watching us more than I did last season, and I'm optimistic that given more time Mourinho will improve us.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
posted on 1/5/17
if fans don't moan when it doesn't happen it probably means they don't care that much. Moaning is what all supporters do, yet most still turn up for the next game.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
if fans don't moan when it doesn't happen it probably means they don't care that much. Moaning is what all supporters do, yet most still turn up for the next game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True, shame the serial moaners this season didnt have the same view under the last regime.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says the hypocrite who did that last season
posted on 1/5/17
Maybe it just took the LVG brigade longer to realise that for MAN UNITED the biggest football club in the world that what we are seeing on the pitch is just not good enough or acceptable. To be fair to the LVG stalwarts what Jose is dishing up atm is no better spectacle.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says the hypocrite who did that last season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What did i celebrate? Oh yeah, a game we won inspite of sloth and doubly celebrated watching him getting the sack before even lifting the cup
Only hypicrite is you muddy boy. #context
Jose
posted on 1/5/17
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you even on about?
So fans who are far from happy with our league form, attack and some even with the manager aren't allowed to voice their concerns or celebrate a trophy because an armchair fan like you says so?
Your logic on arguments always perplexes me. Just because people whine doest mean they don't support or celebrate. Very bizarre argument there.
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
posted on 1/5/17
While this season has been far from perfect I think there are still areas to be optimistic about. The past 2 managers were rightly sacked and if Jose fails to improve on this season then there's a very real chance he'll be gone too. The EL ain't gonna be easy but if we can win that I'll be delighted.
posted on 1/5/17
Notable the different take on 'form' between supporters who pay and follow their team and fans who don't.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you even on about?
So fans who are far from happy with our league form, attack and some even with the manager aren't allowed to voice their concerns or celebrate a trophy because an armchair fan like you says so?
Your logic on arguments always perplexes me. Just because people whine doest mean they don't support or celebrate. Very bizarre argument there.
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What youve said is true. But when you give up on top four with 3 months gone it makes your point invalid because complaining about play (style attack etc) is fine, but to cry all season because we arent 'getting top four' is pathetic considering we have played chit all season really yet find ourselves a point off third, one cup won and a EL semi to play.
I might be armchair but not a plastic crybaby like you.
posted on 1/5/17
I give up on top 4 when we went 10pts behind. How often do teams go 10 pts off top 4 (with Europa football to contend with too which was part of my argument) and get back in ???
It was being realistic. We've been up against it ever since. We've made a better fist of it since Xmas and not lost a league game but we have drawn about 5 or 6 too many.
We've been bookies outsiders since that day too so it's not like I was writing us off when we were sitting pretty.
I could see the flaws in the team and didn't fancy us. I still don't. Maybe we can win the weakest Europa in yrs to save our blushes but we will have to wait and see on tbat. Hopefully we do.
Are am I only allowed to make predictions if they are positive ones then?
posted on 1/5/17
As an 'armchair' fan of united for just under 30 years, regardless of what situation my team find themselves in, ive always believed. That has shown over the years even if the end result isnt ideal, which is why i find ut absurd to give up on something like the top four all the way back in October.
posted on 1/5/17
Kindly take your optimism to RedCafe.
It has no place here.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kindly take your optimism to RedCafe.
It has no place here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mad isnt it. Giving up on top four about now ypu can understand. But in october? Wtf is the point in followi g your team if you already gave up when the seasons only just begun? All that money se85 must spend too just to have already given up in October. Jesus wept.
posted on 1/5/17
No need to be pessamistic or optimistic.
Realistic is our best bet.
posted on 1/5/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the hardest top 6 battle ever according to some
posted on 1/5/17
It's grating that so many people deal in absolutes on here.
Generic debate:
Person A "X is a negative."
Person B "Y is a positive."
Person A "Stop deflecting."
posted on 1/5/17
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Special One' or Dare To Zlatan' (U18599)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 minutes ago
Superb article and a great attempt at pampering over the cracks.
End of the day, fans are entitled to moan. Some folk seem to believe they are the only ones allowed to for.some reason.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Desperate Dan has arrived but will no doubt shamelessly celebrate if we win the EL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you even on about?
So fans who are far from happy with our league form, attack and some even with the manager aren't allowed to voice their concerns or celebrate a trophy because an armchair fan like you says so?
Your logic on arguments always perplexes me. Just because people whine doest mean they don't support or celebrate. Very bizarre argument there.
A Europa win now will make our season a successful one however most people thought we'd be in a title race in August and we really should be too really as nobody in this league is that good.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't take him seriously. No one does. Himself included
posted on 1/5/17
Um....nowhere in the article does it say fans can't moan. We all do it.
And SE85, we all see flaws in the team. This board is so absolute about opinions. If your optimistic it means you're just papering over cracks and see nothing wrong, If you're moaning it means you're a miserable git that doesn't back the manager.
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