comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
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I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
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Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
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So what carrick does then

comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't care how much he'll cost us, As long as he helps us to win the league this season
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He won't

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
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I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
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Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
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So what carrick does then
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You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.

comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't care how much he'll cost us, As long as he helps us to win the league this season, I don't know why some of our fans are bothered about how much we pay for players, It's not our money at the end of the day.
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Partly mine to be fair. I contribute my £1000-1300 a season.

I don't care about the fee too much. Just hope it's not £50m or more which it doesn't seem it is.

£35m + 5m add-ons seems fair.

comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't care how much he'll cost us, As long as he helps us to win the league this season
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He won't
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That's the spirit.

comment by El bandido de una estrella (U18808)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by El bandido de una estrella (U18808)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Conte'nt (U20893)
posted 5 seconds ago
£50m is just his base price, media conveniently forgotten to mention the £10m Lukaku tax on top
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You've forgotten to include his wages too

Speaking of which someone earlier in the thread said that he want to leave Chelsea because they won't give his last chance at a big contract

If this is true it's another reason not to sign him
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Why?

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Think it through

Chelsea don't deem him worthy of a contract ergo dispensable kind of makes a mockery of the he won Chelsea the title last season b0110cks going on in here
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We are selling him because he feels threatened by Baka' s arrival, he doesn't feel like competing for his place. Actually we are light in that area so wouldn't mind him staying. Also we need as much money as we can get so that we can overpay on acquiring full backs.

comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
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Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
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So what carrick does then
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You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.
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What about a youngster such as TFM, what about games at home where we can play Pogba and Herrera with an attacking mid etc etc

comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't care how much he'll cost us, As long as he helps us to win the league this season
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He won't
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That's the spirit.
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Nothing wrong with a bit of realism.

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comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
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Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
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So what carrick does then
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You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.
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What about a youngster such as TFM, what about games at home where we can play Pogba and Herrera with an attacking mid etc etc
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We want to challenge for the league and the CL

Matic is a far safer bet than TFM who none of us really know can be a decent DM

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't care how much he'll cost us, As long as he helps us to win the league this season
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He won't
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That's the spirit.
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Nothing wrong with a bit of realism.
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Not allowed on here... Joses infallible and you get shouted down

I looked Matic up on whoscored aswell and he actually on played 90minutes in 22 matches last season, being subbed off 8 times and used as a sub 5 times. Definitely not as prominent in the Chelsea team as being made out. He also has the lowest average rating in the Chelsea XI behind Courtois.

comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
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Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what carrick does then
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You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.
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What about a youngster such as TFM, what about games at home where we can play Pogba and Herrera with an attacking mid etc etc
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We want to challenge for the league and the CL

Matic is a far safer bet than TFM who none of us really know can be a decent DM
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That's the problem. He is a very good player but not given a chance and I don't think ever will under Jose. Instead we'd rather spûnk 40m on an average DM who is getting towards the end of his career

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what carrick does then
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about a youngster such as TFM, what about games at home where we can play Pogba and Herrera with an attacking mid etc etc
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TFM who,whenever he's played for us,has been a fullback ?

I dunno how Chelsea keep getting these ridiculous fees for players they don't even want. Even in the current market £40M for a 29 year old DM in decline is insane

Jesus wept ch3lski fans talk utter tripe. Feels threatened by Bakayoko? He was rumoured to be leaving before you signed anyone. He's clearly not in his managers plans. It happens. Jose likes him. End of story.

Bakayoko has a knee injury. A bit of a risky signing tbh

comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jesus wept ch3lski fans talk utter tripe. Feels threatened by Bakayoko? He was rumoured to be leaving before you signed anyone. He's clearly not in his managers plans. It happens. Jose likes him. End of story.
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Think you're a bit deluded m8

I still don't feel comfortable with selling to United. Regardless of how any of us may rate him, if United & Mourinho are willing to part with £40M for him, then they obvioulsy really want him, and see him as a component that will greatly improve their squad. Yes, we are getting over the odds in terms of the money, but if he compliments their midfield and we are competing with them on numerous fronts come the business end of the season, then that bonus point will be completely reduntant.

In summary, I am happy to sell him, but it's a risky game helping Jose build the tailor-made United side that he wants.

I would rather sell for half the money to a side who we will not be competing with next season, that's the truth.

https://youtu.be/_2-LcP88kO8

Here's a video showing what he can do - and this was from last season.

Not bad at all.

comment by Conte'nt (U20893)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jesus wept ch3lski fans talk utter tripe. Feels threatened by Bakayoko? He was rumoured to be leaving before you signed anyone. He's clearly not in his managers plans. It happens. Jose likes him. End of story.
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Think you're a bit deluded m8
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Nah he's just seen the light like Mata n Jose and moved to a great club rather than a plastic one held up by a Russian Gangster.

comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what carrick does then
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What about a youngster such as TFM, what about games at home where we can play Pogba and Herrera with an attacking mid etc etc
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TFM who,whenever he's played for us,has been a fullback ?
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He's played numerous times in midfield both in the first team and reserves. You'd know that if you watched them and has never looked out if place there. He has all the attributes to play in midfield. Big, strong, fast, great engine and very composed on the ball

comment by Genius_AppleCart_Space_Dude_Featuring_Zorak (..We all got a Chicken-Duck-Woman thing, Waiting for us.) (U19099)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robb Lukaku (U21234)
posted 57 seconds ago
If matic comes and succeeds with us people won't even care about his fee.

A £50 million success is better than a £20 million failure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him be a success

For me it's not only the fact I don't think he is good enough anymore he doesn't change our style of play. I can already see what sort of team Jose is trying to build. A workmanlike, efficient, solid but uninspiring team that is going to grind out many results but play not very exciting football. For me personally I don't enjoy that throughout a whole season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Or he could be signing a dm to protect the back 4 to allow Herrera, pogba and our wide players to play a more expansive game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what carrick does then
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You happy to rely upon a 36 year old Carrick next season without a replacement ?
Goodluck.
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No carrick Can't be relied upon. . Too slow and old,can still read the game but is practically a statue these days. Bypassed with ease.

comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Conte'nt (U20893)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Jesus wept ch3lski fans talk utter tripe. Feels threatened by Bakayoko? He was rumoured to be leaving before you signed anyone. He's clearly not in his managers plans. It happens. Jose likes him. End of story.
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Think you're a bit deluded m8
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Nah he's just seen the light like Mata n Jose and moved to a great club rather than a plastic one held up by a Russian Gangster.
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I am sure Chelsea will look forward to receiving £50m plus £10m Lukaku tax.

Safe to say he divides opinion massively