What's the point of him saying that?
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
What's the point of him saying that?
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Because he thinks he’s got too big
His ego got too big more like
You'd think a professional footballer at a club like Utd would have all of this stuff planned out.
You'd think they'd have dieticians to plan it out for them tbh
It was at the World Cup. I just felt great and I think I played great over there, and then when I came back, it’s a different type of style. When you’re in the Premier League, you cannot play with the same amount of muscle as in international football.
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Why not? If anything international footy is more technical than most prem footy. Think he’s got that the wrong way around. Either way, losing weight should give him speed and mobility.
Why not? If anything international footy is more technical than most prem footy. Think he’s got that the wrong way around. Either way, losing weight should give him speed and mobility.
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But what about that awful first touch?
Watched him week in week out this season..yes he’s gotten bigger, but his problem is that his first Touch is the worst I’ve seen of any United player that I can remember, and his all round play is quite frankly just embarrassing for a “premier league level” striker.
Losing weight is not going to change those things. He needs to buck up his ideas and fast.
Fans at OT starting to turn on him already tbh (and pogba actually who was surprisingly boo’d when he came on against palace the other week).
Lukaku: I got too big
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True, 24" is probably a hindrance more than a blessing
Don't want to say too much. Will probably get accused of being racist
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comment by definitely not hippo (U1301)
posted 14 minutes ago
i said this in a thread a week ago.
the thing about lukaku is that he seems a really smart guy off the pitch and it is refreshing to hear a player who knows what he can improve.
his touch will improve massively if he loses three or four kilos of muscle.
the real question is, how this was allowed to happen in the first place? i think in england there is too much focus on strength training. agility and speed are needed in football, strength? is neymar strong? is messi? look at thomas müller, skinny as a rake.
from experience i know how detrimental bulking up can be to your footballing ability especially if you are training high reps. if lukaku has done this, he may have ruined his fast twich fibres for ever.
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Yep, I have been saying this myself since the start of the season. It is quite obvious that he has got too much muscle. He is basically the new Ade Akinbiyi.
He is never going to have a good first touch. However, I do feel that his touch his been even worse than normal this season and the extra weight is certainly a factor in that in my opinion. If he loses some of that muscle mass than it should improve his pace, agility and put his first touch up form non-existent to awful.
What I find absolutely baffling is that he has been allowed to put so much muscle on unchecked by the club. What the fecking hell is that all about?
What I find absolutely baffling is that he has been allowed to put so much muscle on unchecked by the club. What the fecking hell is that all about?
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this, yes its the players fault but surely someone at the club would see it " erm romulu seems to have gone from a size large to a xxxl shirt in the last 6months, anyone find that a bit concerning?"
when he was at west brom he was hungry but not in the food sense but in the fact he was playing to prove a point, he slacked at times at everton but still a handful for most, now after his utd move its almost as if he gave up his fitness regime because he thinks hes made it
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 30 seconds ago
What I find absolutely baffling is that he has been allowed to put so much muscle on unchecked by the club. What the fecking hell is that all about?
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this, yes its the players fault but surely someone at the club would see it " erm romulu seems to have gone from a size large to a xxxl shirt in the last 6months, anyone find that a bit concerning?"
when he was at west brom he was hungry but not in the food sense but in the fact he was playing to prove a point, he slacked at times at everton but still a handful for most, now after his utd move its almost as if he gave up his fitness regime because he thinks hes made it
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If you look at the footage from his West Brom days he was a lot leaner and faster. He still had enough muscle and power and hold of defenders, but also the pace to run them. The Lukaku from those days would be a better fit to our squad than the big lump we have at the moment.
At a time when the PL is made for light, skilful strikers who read the game well such as Aubameyang, Aguero and Kane - Jose Mourinho went the Emile Heskey route.
Could it be that because the reason for him bulking up was for the WC he did so while on international duty so the club were not fully aware.
He does at least seem to have reasoning for doing so and seems to suggest it worked for the WC, but maybe he didn't fully appreciate how much it would affect his performances for United but is now looking into fixing it. In hindsight maybe he shouldn't have returned to United so quickly after the WC and instead began the muscle loss, but I'm no sports scientist and know next to nothing about it tbh but I can imagine losing the muscle while still performing at a reasonable level isn't easy hence why he's been dropped in recent weeks to sort it out?
This is where there's something wrong with the club. I'd have expected that each player would have a regime that some kind sports scientist would have worked out. It's December now and it seems that this problem is only being acknowledged now, whilst the public have been aware since August.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 44 minutes ago
Could it be that because the reason for him bulking up was for the WC he did so while on international duty so the club were not fully aware.
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He can't bulk that fast without being pumped full of gear or being properly obese (wouldn't have time to bulk and cut)
Could it be that because the reason for him bulking up was for the WC he did so while on international duty so the club were not fully aware.
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but the club would have seen him when he got back with whatever pre season he had no?if anything hes got bigger since the wc, sweating buckets 10mins after the start of the match, he's clearly not in his prime physical condition, yet he gets played constantly where as luke shaw was hammered by mourinho for it
Shaw seemed to have issues with fitness and weight, not putting on muscle from what I can remember?
Clearly what Lukaku did seems to have had a negative effect on his performances but I think it's far too easy to jump to conclusions and say the club are to blame. I'm sure Lukaku had valid reasons for doing what he did and felt it was necessary. I can also imagine had he come back and been rested for a few weeks to lose the muscle there would be plenty moaning that he isn't doing enough and why's he being left out? Truth is none of us have a clue what Lukaku, the club or the Belgium national team discussed regarding Lukaku deciding to bulk up, maybe if there are some actual sport scientists here who know what they're talking about that would help, otherwise it's just complete guess work.
As has been said previously, he can't realistically have built some much muscle in a few short weeks. There must have been a gradual increase in his muscle mass towards the end of last season, which has been continued throughout pre-season/the world cup?
I honestly don't know, maybe all involved were aware of Lukaku's choice to bulk up and were happy to do so.
I'm sure there's also only so much a club can do to make a player lose weight/muscle. The club most likely have constant contact with players regarding their fitness and where they want them to be but it's ultimately up to the player to do what's necessary to get to that. When exactly was his hamstring injury that he says caused problems?
His hamstring injury occurred on 15th November.
I'm sure there's also only so much a club can do to make a player lose weight/muscle.
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true, you cant force someone per se but a club can do quite a bit if they think a player is not in top condition, 1st off by not playing him, your not going to motivate someone to lose weight(if its for his benefit) by playing him week in week out
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posted on 10/12/18
What's the point of him saying that?
posted on 10/12/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
What's the point of him saying that?
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Because he thinks he’s got too big
posted on 10/12/18
His ego got too big more like
posted on 10/12/18
He calls that muscle
posted on 10/12/18
You'd think a professional footballer at a club like Utd would have all of this stuff planned out.
posted on 10/12/18
You'd think they'd have dieticians to plan it out for them tbh
posted on 10/12/18
It was at the World Cup. I just felt great and I think I played great over there, and then when I came back, it’s a different type of style. When you’re in the Premier League, you cannot play with the same amount of muscle as in international football.
—
Why not? If anything international footy is more technical than most prem footy. Think he’s got that the wrong way around. Either way, losing weight should give him speed and mobility.
posted on 10/12/18
Why not? If anything international footy is more technical than most prem footy. Think he’s got that the wrong way around. Either way, losing weight should give him speed and mobility.
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But what about that awful first touch?
posted on 10/12/18
Watched him week in week out this season..yes he’s gotten bigger, but his problem is that his first Touch is the worst I’ve seen of any United player that I can remember, and his all round play is quite frankly just embarrassing for a “premier league level” striker.
Losing weight is not going to change those things. He needs to buck up his ideas and fast.
Fans at OT starting to turn on him already tbh (and pogba actually who was surprisingly boo’d when he came on against palace the other week).
posted on 10/12/18
Lukaku: I got too big
..............
True, 24" is probably a hindrance more than a blessing
posted on 10/12/18
Don't want to say too much. Will probably get accused of being racist
posted on 10/12/18
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posted on 10/12/18
comment by definitely not hippo (U1301)
posted 14 minutes ago
i said this in a thread a week ago.
the thing about lukaku is that he seems a really smart guy off the pitch and it is refreshing to hear a player who knows what he can improve.
his touch will improve massively if he loses three or four kilos of muscle.
the real question is, how this was allowed to happen in the first place? i think in england there is too much focus on strength training. agility and speed are needed in football, strength? is neymar strong? is messi? look at thomas müller, skinny as a rake.
from experience i know how detrimental bulking up can be to your footballing ability especially if you are training high reps. if lukaku has done this, he may have ruined his fast twich fibres for ever.
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Yep, I have been saying this myself since the start of the season. It is quite obvious that he has got too much muscle. He is basically the new Ade Akinbiyi.
He is never going to have a good first touch. However, I do feel that his touch his been even worse than normal this season and the extra weight is certainly a factor in that in my opinion. If he loses some of that muscle mass than it should improve his pace, agility and put his first touch up form non-existent to awful.
What I find absolutely baffling is that he has been allowed to put so much muscle on unchecked by the club. What the fecking hell is that all about?
posted on 10/12/18
What I find absolutely baffling is that he has been allowed to put so much muscle on unchecked by the club. What the fecking hell is that all about?
-----------
this, yes its the players fault but surely someone at the club would see it " erm romulu seems to have gone from a size large to a xxxl shirt in the last 6months, anyone find that a bit concerning?"
when he was at west brom he was hungry but not in the food sense but in the fact he was playing to prove a point, he slacked at times at everton but still a handful for most, now after his utd move its almost as if he gave up his fitness regime because he thinks hes made it
posted on 10/12/18
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 30 seconds ago
What I find absolutely baffling is that he has been allowed to put so much muscle on unchecked by the club. What the fecking hell is that all about?
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this, yes its the players fault but surely someone at the club would see it " erm romulu seems to have gone from a size large to a xxxl shirt in the last 6months, anyone find that a bit concerning?"
when he was at west brom he was hungry but not in the food sense but in the fact he was playing to prove a point, he slacked at times at everton but still a handful for most, now after his utd move its almost as if he gave up his fitness regime because he thinks hes made it
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If you look at the footage from his West Brom days he was a lot leaner and faster. He still had enough muscle and power and hold of defenders, but also the pace to run them. The Lukaku from those days would be a better fit to our squad than the big lump we have at the moment.
posted on 10/12/18
At a time when the PL is made for light, skilful strikers who read the game well such as Aubameyang, Aguero and Kane - Jose Mourinho went the Emile Heskey route.
posted on 10/12/18
Could it be that because the reason for him bulking up was for the WC he did so while on international duty so the club were not fully aware.
He does at least seem to have reasoning for doing so and seems to suggest it worked for the WC, but maybe he didn't fully appreciate how much it would affect his performances for United but is now looking into fixing it. In hindsight maybe he shouldn't have returned to United so quickly after the WC and instead began the muscle loss, but I'm no sports scientist and know next to nothing about it tbh but I can imagine losing the muscle while still performing at a reasonable level isn't easy hence why he's been dropped in recent weeks to sort it out?
posted on 10/12/18
This is where there's something wrong with the club. I'd have expected that each player would have a regime that some kind sports scientist would have worked out. It's December now and it seems that this problem is only being acknowledged now, whilst the public have been aware since August.
posted on 10/12/18
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 44 minutes ago
Could it be that because the reason for him bulking up was for the WC he did so while on international duty so the club were not fully aware.
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He can't bulk that fast without being pumped full of gear or being properly obese (wouldn't have time to bulk and cut)
posted on 10/12/18
Could it be that because the reason for him bulking up was for the WC he did so while on international duty so the club were not fully aware.
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but the club would have seen him when he got back with whatever pre season he had no?if anything hes got bigger since the wc, sweating buckets 10mins after the start of the match, he's clearly not in his prime physical condition, yet he gets played constantly where as luke shaw was hammered by mourinho for it
posted on 10/12/18
Shaw seemed to have issues with fitness and weight, not putting on muscle from what I can remember?
Clearly what Lukaku did seems to have had a negative effect on his performances but I think it's far too easy to jump to conclusions and say the club are to blame. I'm sure Lukaku had valid reasons for doing what he did and felt it was necessary. I can also imagine had he come back and been rested for a few weeks to lose the muscle there would be plenty moaning that he isn't doing enough and why's he being left out? Truth is none of us have a clue what Lukaku, the club or the Belgium national team discussed regarding Lukaku deciding to bulk up, maybe if there are some actual sport scientists here who know what they're talking about that would help, otherwise it's just complete guess work.
posted on 10/12/18
As has been said previously, he can't realistically have built some much muscle in a few short weeks. There must have been a gradual increase in his muscle mass towards the end of last season, which has been continued throughout pre-season/the world cup?
posted on 10/12/18
I honestly don't know, maybe all involved were aware of Lukaku's choice to bulk up and were happy to do so.
I'm sure there's also only so much a club can do to make a player lose weight/muscle. The club most likely have constant contact with players regarding their fitness and where they want them to be but it's ultimately up to the player to do what's necessary to get to that. When exactly was his hamstring injury that he says caused problems?
posted on 10/12/18
His hamstring injury occurred on 15th November.
posted on 10/12/18
I'm sure there's also only so much a club can do to make a player lose weight/muscle.
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true, you cant force someone per se but a club can do quite a bit if they think a player is not in top condition, 1st off by not playing him, your not going to motivate someone to lose weight(if its for his benefit) by playing him week in week out
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