Absolutely disgraceful from the two of them.
People say things are as bad here but evidently it isn't true. In England they'd be hung, drawn and quartered for those comments.
If I was Kean I'd be handing in a transfer request immediately.
Not sure why these black players go there, a backwards country. Bonucci should shut his mouth
Bonucci's comments are an absolute disgrace:
Italy international Bonucci - who scored the opening goal - told Sky Sport Italia: "You celebrate goals with your team-mates. He could have done it differently.
"I think the blame is 50-50. Moise should not have done that and the Curva [fans] should not have reacted in that way."
How is the issue ever going to be fixed when the player's own team mate holds the view that he basically brought it on himself?
Fecking disgusting.
The sooner those nice Europeans are rid of racist Brexit gammon Britain the better
We have own problems. Like Southgate said last week let's get our own house in order. Plenty of racial incidents in British football of late.
I’m actually appalled at Allegri’s comments, if your own manager is saying this when what hope do you have?
Ridiculous comments from the players and managers. Racism just isn't taken as seriously as other forms of discrimination.
If this had been a female player then you can guarantee that she would not have scored.
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Ridiculous comments from the players and managers. Racism just isn't taken as seriously as other forms of discrimination.
If this had been a female player then you can guarantee that she would not have scored.
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Maybe in the changing rooms
Fans are absolute kants all over the world. In one country it's racism, here it's homophobia (and let's not pretend there's no racism involved).
But a player riling up the crowd will only ever exacerbate the issue. The problem is with the officials who need to take action. That needs to happen, but don't let the players make it worse.
Should be forced to play 3 fixtures behind closed doors if found guilty of this
Alisson Chains (U3979)
I don't wish this to come across as overly critical because I'm sure you share my feelings about the abuse itself, but you really should not write a setence with 'but' after criticising it.
There's no justification. None. The player could run around for 4 minutes laughing at the fans, do the caterpillar in front of the opposition dug out and then down a pint whilst standing on one leg on top of the crossbar for all I care, there's no excuse for racial abuse.
At no point should any player have to think 'I probably shouldn't do this as it's more likely to incite racial abuse'. Poor comment imo.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 14 minutes ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
I don't wish this to come across as overly critical because I'm sure you share my feelings about the abuse itself, but you really should not write a setence with 'but' after criticising it.
There's no justification. None. The player could run around for 4 minutes laughing at the fans, do the caterpillar in front of the opposition dug out and then down a pint whilst standing on one leg on top of the crossbar for all I care, there's no excuse for racial abuse.
At no point should any player have to think 'I probably shouldn't do this as it's more likely to incite racial abuse'. Poor comment imo.
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Not for one second saying that.
But the players HAVE to not react on the pitch as all it does is exacerbate the situation. Leave the authorities to stamp it out (the fact they don't is a separate issue that needs addressing).
iF i wAs gEtTiNg pAiD 1O0,0O PoUnDs pEr wEeK Id hApPiLy bE rAcIsTlY aBuSeD
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
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women should not wear short skirts i mean what do they expect when something happens to them you cannot just go around taunting men with short skirts and expect nothing to happen i agree that sexual assault is bad
BUT she shouldnt have wore that skirt
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
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I haven't said or implied that.
As I said, I don't want this to become a massive issue and I've no doubt you find the abuse as abhorrent as I do.
I'd just respectfully advise you to re-consider that point, because it comes across as if the player should consider not doing something in case it leads to racial abuse.
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
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women should not wear short skirts i mean what do they expect when something happens to them you cannot just go around taunting men with short skirts and expect nothing to happen i agree that sexual assault is bad
BUT she shouldnt have wore that skirt
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Answer the question directly.
Do you think it's wise for players to purposefully attempt to wind up thousands of fans?
comment by (Kash) I'm the Mane (U1108)
posted 54 minutes ago
We have own problems. Like Southgate said last week let's get our own house in order. Plenty of racial incidents in British football of late.
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I think the point is that when it happens in the UK, the perpetrator is widely condemned, here, you have a prominent player and manager blaming the player who was abused along with the fans who were doing the abusing. It’s a strange stance to take.
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
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women should not wear short skirts i mean what do they expect when something happens to them you cannot just go around taunting men with short skirts and expect nothing to happen i agree that sexual assault is bad
BUT she shouldnt have wore that skirt
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Answer the question directly.
Do you think it's wise for players to purposefully attempt to wind up thousands of fans?
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I once saw a cyclist go through a red light at a pedestrian crossing so I caught up with him in my car and ran him over and killed him. If he didn't want killed then he shouldn't have skipped that red light. I was completely justified in my actions. He skipped a red light afterall. What did he expect?
If you ever been racially abused then you can understand the players reaction.
I remember one time there was a kid on the bus that was pulling faces at me. I grabbed him and took him off the bus and disembowelled him, chopped him up and sent each of his organs to various different members of his family.
shouldn't have pulled those faces. What did he expect to happen?
So Andrew Nelson is a facking moron.
comment by Desperate Dier (U6468)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you ever been racially abused then you can understand the players reaction.
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Can totally understand why the player did it, but just don't believe winding up thousands of fans is a good move in any scenario.
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posted on 3/4/19
Absolutely disgraceful from the two of them.
People say things are as bad here but evidently it isn't true. In England they'd be hung, drawn and quartered for those comments.
If I was Kean I'd be handing in a transfer request immediately.
posted on 3/4/19
Not sure why these black players go there, a backwards country. Bonucci should shut his mouth
posted on 3/4/19
Bonucci's comments are an absolute disgrace:
Italy international Bonucci - who scored the opening goal - told Sky Sport Italia: "You celebrate goals with your team-mates. He could have done it differently.
"I think the blame is 50-50. Moise should not have done that and the Curva [fans] should not have reacted in that way."
How is the issue ever going to be fixed when the player's own team mate holds the view that he basically brought it on himself?
Fecking disgusting.
posted on 3/4/19
The sooner those nice Europeans are rid of racist Brexit gammon Britain the better
posted on 3/4/19
We have own problems. Like Southgate said last week let's get our own house in order. Plenty of racial incidents in British football of late.
posted on 3/4/19
Disgusting.
posted on 3/4/19
I’m actually appalled at Allegri’s comments, if your own manager is saying this when what hope do you have?
posted on 3/4/19
Ridiculous comments from the players and managers. Racism just isn't taken as seriously as other forms of discrimination.
If this had been a female player then you can guarantee that she would not have scored.
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Ridiculous comments from the players and managers. Racism just isn't taken as seriously as other forms of discrimination.
If this had been a female player then you can guarantee that she would not have scored.
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Maybe in the changing rooms
posted on 3/4/19
Fans are absolute kants all over the world. In one country it's racism, here it's homophobia (and let's not pretend there's no racism involved).
But a player riling up the crowd will only ever exacerbate the issue. The problem is with the officials who need to take action. That needs to happen, but don't let the players make it worse.
Should be forced to play 3 fixtures behind closed doors if found guilty of this
posted on 3/4/19
Alisson Chains (U3979)
I don't wish this to come across as overly critical because I'm sure you share my feelings about the abuse itself, but you really should not write a setence with 'but' after criticising it.
There's no justification. None. The player could run around for 4 minutes laughing at the fans, do the caterpillar in front of the opposition dug out and then down a pint whilst standing on one leg on top of the crossbar for all I care, there's no excuse for racial abuse.
At no point should any player have to think 'I probably shouldn't do this as it's more likely to incite racial abuse'. Poor comment imo.
posted on 3/4/19
Totally agree Winston!
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 14 minutes ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
I don't wish this to come across as overly critical because I'm sure you share my feelings about the abuse itself, but you really should not write a setence with 'but' after criticising it.
There's no justification. None. The player could run around for 4 minutes laughing at the fans, do the caterpillar in front of the opposition dug out and then down a pint whilst standing on one leg on top of the crossbar for all I care, there's no excuse for racial abuse.
At no point should any player have to think 'I probably shouldn't do this as it's more likely to incite racial abuse'. Poor comment imo.
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Not for one second saying that.
But the players HAVE to not react on the pitch as all it does is exacerbate the situation. Leave the authorities to stamp it out (the fact they don't is a separate issue that needs addressing).
posted on 3/4/19
iF i wAs gEtTiNg pAiD 1O0,0O PoUnDs pEr wEeK Id hApPiLy bE rAcIsTlY aBuSeD
posted on 3/4/19
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
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women should not wear short skirts i mean what do they expect when something happens to them you cannot just go around taunting men with short skirts and expect nothing to happen i agree that sexual assault is bad
BUT she shouldnt have wore that skirt
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
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You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
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I haven't said or implied that.
As I said, I don't want this to become a massive issue and I've no doubt you find the abuse as abhorrent as I do.
I'd just respectfully advise you to re-consider that point, because it comes across as if the player should consider not doing something in case it leads to racial abuse.
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
women should not wear short skirts i mean what do they expect when something happens to them you cannot just go around taunting men with short skirts and expect nothing to happen i agree that sexual assault is bad
BUT she shouldnt have wore that skirt
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Answer the question directly.
Do you think it's wise for players to purposefully attempt to wind up thousands of fans?
posted on 3/4/19
comment by (Kash) I'm the Mane (U1108)
posted 54 minutes ago
We have own problems. Like Southgate said last week let's get our own house in order. Plenty of racial incidents in British football of late.
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I think the point is that when it happens in the UK, the perpetrator is widely condemned, here, you have a prominent player and manager blaming the player who was abused along with the fans who were doing the abusing. It’s a strange stance to take.
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Nelson (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Alisson Chains (U3979)
Sorry, but you are.
The player should be able to do what he likes without fear of racial abuse.
To ask the player not to do something in case it exacerbates racial abuse is, in part, blaming the victim.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think players winding the fans up is a good idea?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
women should not wear short skirts i mean what do they expect when something happens to them you cannot just go around taunting men with short skirts and expect nothing to happen i agree that sexual assault is bad
BUT she shouldnt have wore that skirt
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Answer the question directly.
Do you think it's wise for players to purposefully attempt to wind up thousands of fans?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I once saw a cyclist go through a red light at a pedestrian crossing so I caught up with him in my car and ran him over and killed him. If he didn't want killed then he shouldn't have skipped that red light. I was completely justified in my actions. He skipped a red light afterall. What did he expect?
posted on 3/4/19
If you ever been racially abused then you can understand the players reaction.
posted on 3/4/19
I remember one time there was a kid on the bus that was pulling faces at me. I grabbed him and took him off the bus and disembowelled him, chopped him up and sent each of his organs to various different members of his family.
shouldn't have pulled those faces. What did he expect to happen?
posted on 3/4/19
So Andrew Nelson is a facking moron.
posted on 3/4/19
comment by Desperate Dier (U6468)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you ever been racially abused then you can understand the players reaction.
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Can totally understand why the player did it, but just don't believe winding up thousands of fans is a good move in any scenario.
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