England will soon find good fast bowlers, domestic structure is strong , replacements for Broad and Anderson are difficult, but there must be some talented pacemen in county cricket.

Olly Stone is a very good proper quick but seems to be even more injury prone than Mark Wood. Jamie Overton falls into the Olly Stone category.

Porter and Coad are two of the best English bowlers in the county circuit at the moment but as both only bowl at around 81-82mph, they're unlikely to get a call up.

There's not too many bowlers around who can bowl in the high 80s let alone touch 90mph. The ones who can just break down so all the wicket taking is left to the medium fast bowlers.

England never had express pace bowlers, they mostly had good swing bowlers because thats the requisite of picking wickets in England

Burns out for the rest of the series. Hugely disappointing. Hopefully that means Crawley will open rather than Denly to accommodate Bairstow.

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Burns out for the rest of the series. Hugely disappointing. Hopefully that means Crawley will open rather than Denly to accommodate Bairstow.
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Oh my facking LORD

How long are they gonna keep playing facking football in warm ups

Well England have got Bess but where's Dlck Turpin when you need him.

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Burns out for the rest of the series. Hugely disappointing. Hopefully that means Crawley will open rather than Denly to accommodate Bairstow.
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Oh my facking LORD

How long are they gonna keep playing facking football in warm ups
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Well there's my answer - apparently Root has said they won't play football in warm-ups for the foreseeable.

Decent, competitive start to the morning from the sounds of things, but Sibley scoring mostly in boundaries is a bit of a worry. Fine if he's seeing the ball well but we don't want him being too encouraged to drive.

Shame for Crawley but sounds as though he was up against some top class Philandering.

fank fack phil is retiring. right irritating cant

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Burns out for the rest of the series. Hugely disappointing. Hopefully that means Crawley will open rather than Denly to accommodate Bairstow.
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Oh my facking LORD

How long are they gonna keep playing facking football in warm ups
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Well there's my answer - apparently Root has said they won't play football in warm-ups for the foreseeable.

Decent, competitive start to the morning from the sounds of things, but Sibley scoring mostly in boundaries is a bit of a worry. Fine if he's seeing the ball well but we don't want him being too encouraged to drive.

Shame for Crawley but sounds as though he was up against some top class Philandering.
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called it

Sigh

Trouble with so many of our bats is they don't seem to have the knack for accumulation that players like Cook, Trott or Root have always had. Keep the scoreboard ticking with singles and 2s rather than only scoring in boundaries.

It's one of the great intangibles of cricket - scoreboard pressure. When you feel you have to play a boundary-scoring shot to score at all, then you start chasing the ball. Just drop it into a gap and work a quick single. Rotate the strike, make sure the bowler can't build pressure working away at the same bat over an over, let the bats share the pressure of facing deliveries.

England are spectacularly bad at this nowadays, and it seems to have infected Sibley too, which is bizarre considering that patient, attritional cricket is what he's built his reputation on. Maybe I'm not giving the opposition bowlers enough credit, I suppose

Trouble with so many of our bats is they don't seem to have the knack for accumulation that players like Cook, Trott or Root have always had. Keep the scoreboard ticking with singles and 2s rather than only scoring in boundaries.

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Root?

Yeah, Root has always been brilliant at that. He just nibbles away and ends up on 30 before you even notice, and often without playing a single shot worth remembering. At his best, anyway.

Converting 50s to 100s is his major issue, not accumulating runs and rotating strike

Root will never be a great for me. His conversion rate is appalling and his scoring and consistency has fallen off a cliff. Also a crap captain.

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Sigh

Trouble with so many of our bats is they don't seem to have the knack for accumulation that players like Cook, Trott or Root have always had. Keep the scoreboard ticking with singles and 2s rather than only scoring in boundaries.

It's one of the great intangibles of cricket - scoreboard pressure. When you feel you have to play a boundary-scoring shot to score at all, then you start chasing the ball. Just drop it into a gap and work a quick single. Rotate the strike, make sure the bowler can't build pressure working away at the same bat over an over, let the bats share the pressure of facing deliveries.

England are spectacularly bad at this nowadays, and it seems to have infected Sibley too, which is bizarre considering that patient, attritional cricket is what he's built his reputation on. Maybe I'm not giving the opposition bowlers enough credit, I suppose
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This is a hugely valid point. Cook has the ability to nurdle off his hip or create the opportunity to nurdle off his hip for a single with regularity and not always look for the cut or pull for 4. The fact that the drive wasn't a strong shot for him probably helped as well.

Even Trescothick who was a belligerent batsman had the block to silly point for a quick single shot in him.

Picking gaps is the key in test cricket to score runs. Boundaries are obviously a bonus if you time it well enough.

Shame we lost Sibley so close to lunch. Another decent start from him and he's showing some promise. Just a shame we cant see a partnership develop with Burns over the course of the series.

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Sigh

Trouble with so many of our bats is they don't seem to have the knack for accumulation that players like Cook, Trott or Root have always had. Keep the scoreboard ticking with singles and 2s rather than only scoring in boundaries.

It's one of the great intangibles of cricket - scoreboard pressure. When you feel you have to play a boundary-scoring shot to score at all, then you start chasing the ball. Just drop it into a gap and work a quick single. Rotate the strike, make sure the bowler can't build pressure working away at the same bat over an over, let the bats share the pressure of facing deliveries.

England are spectacularly bad at this nowadays, and it seems to have infected Sibley too, which is bizarre considering that patient, attritional cricket is what he's built his reputation on. Maybe I'm not giving the opposition bowlers enough credit, I suppose
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This is a hugely valid point. Cook has the ability to nurdle off his hip or create the opportunity to nurdle off his hip for a single with regularity and not always look for the cut or pull for 4. The fact that the drive wasn't a strong shot for him probably helped as well.

Even Trescothick who was a belligerent batsman had the block to silly point for a quick single shot in him.

Picking gaps is the key in test cricket to score runs. Boundaries are obviously a bonus if you time it well enough.

Shame we lost Sibley so close to lunch. Another decent start from him and he's showing some promise. Just a shame we cant see a partnership develop with Burns over the course of the series.
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I'm still fuming about the Burns injury mate

im fuming Burns wasnt picked 5 years ago

im also fuming my sky go isnt working

Maybe not 5 years ago, but certainly 2 or 3. He definitely should've been ahead of Jennings in the queue - that would've meant making his debut in late 2016, by which point he'd made 3 straight 1,000-run County summers

Ridiculous isn't it? Disappointing that Silverwood still had them playing football as a warm up and it's taken an injury to one of our key players to finally put an end to it.

Anyway, it's good to see Pope back in the side. Feel a bit sorry for Parkinson too that Bess has been selected ahead of him. Bess isn't exactly blessed with experience so I'm guessing his inclusion is partly to do with his ability with the bat.

It must be, England's tail is getting longer. Bess being down at 9 is pretty funny actually, considering in his previous Test appearances he's shown the ability to bat at 6 or even 5. Definitely a batting all-rounder, though I can't say I know how much his bowling has come on in the last couple of years.

I've not seen him do too much with the ball. Seems like he was better when he first burst on the scene when Somerset almost won the title a few seasons ago. Rarely gets time and had a loan spell at Yorkshire where he did OK at best. Decent looking batsman though, wouldn't be surprised if he did a Borthwick and moved up the order and gave up the spin.

I was always surprised Borthwick never got another look back in, especially when England were in such dire need of a new #3, but he just hasn't been good enough since moving to Surrey. Half the time he doesn't even play.

Definitely one of those players, like Mark Stoneman, where I've always been a bit in denial about their level, because I always really wanted them to succeed and never wanted to admit they weren't really good enough. Haseeb Hameed too, I guess - I think at this point the only logical conclusion to draw about Hameed is that he simply isn't as good as we first thought

Haha I'm the same although I don't think there's anyone in the Essex line up who should be in the England team although I'd love to see them.

I really wanted Westley to be given a longer chance even though I could see he was struggling.

Amazingly for a team who's won the County championship twice in the last 3 years, I don't think we have anyone who would improve the test team, Harmer aside.