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comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
It would’ve been pretty easy to identify the fans.

We know exactly when and where it happened and cameras pointed on all seats.

For them to come out and say they can’t identify anyone tells me it probably didn’t happen.

I’ll wait for the full investigation though to be finished
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Wow.

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt after all.
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Denial of what?

There is no evidence to say anything happened?

Wouldn’t be the first time Rüdiger claims have been found to be incorrect
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So full of $hit, but whatever makes you feel better.

#Apologist
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Makes no difference to me.

Either they find the person who apparently done it and he gets done or we find out Rudiger was wrong

posted on 24/12/19

And we can all enjoy a nice white Christmas.

posted on 24/12/19

https://i.redd.it/1c68vgtfgk641.gif

Wonder if Rudiger gets a retrospective ban for punching Son in the midriff? It also explains Sons reaction.

posted on 24/12/19

A fan has been banned from white hart lane for throwing an object at kepa

posted on 24/12/19

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
It would’ve been pretty easy to identify the fans.

We know exactly when and where it happened and cameras pointed on all seats.

For them to come out and say they can’t identify anyone tells me it probably didn’t happen.

I’ll wait for the full investigation though to be finished
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Wow.

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt after all.
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Denial of what?

There is no evidence to say anything happened?

Wouldn’t be the first time Rüdiger claims have been found to be incorrect
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If you’re talking about the game against Roma, Rudiger’s claims weren’t incorrect - the clip is out there where the monkey chants are clearly audible from the Roma fans in the corner as Rudiger wins the challenge. UEFA in their infinite wisdom just claimed that there was insufficient evidence, which was a disgrace but unsurprising given their stance on the issue over the years.

More generally the first step in eradicating racism from the game is to stop all this ‘Whataboutary’ as Barry Glenndenning describes it. Where the first reaction when a teams fans are accused of racism is to point out other examples of another team’s fans doing the same. I’ve seen it on this thread above and it’s all over Twitter. It’s irrelevant and undermines the fight against racism.

I said it on another thread that one fans behaviour does not reflect a fan base, it reflects issues in society. I absolutely refuse to be associated with the idiots in Paris a few years back just because they happen by chance to support the same football team as me for example. We need more of what happened at the weekend when racial abuse is reported immediately by fellow fans - that’s the way we can start to push back against this disease which is infecting our game.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
And we can all enjoy a nice white Christmas.
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Fack off

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by hounslows-finest (U6180)
posted 28 minutes ago
A fan has been banned from white hart lane for throwing an object at kepa
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Good

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by JohnTerrysHardTackle - #Lampard211 (U1634)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
It would’ve been pretty easy to identify the fans.

We know exactly when and where it happened and cameras pointed on all seats.

For them to come out and say they can’t identify anyone tells me it probably didn’t happen.

I’ll wait for the full investigation though to be finished
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Wow.

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt after all.
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Denial of what?

There is no evidence to say anything happened?

Wouldn’t be the first time Rüdiger claims have been found to be incorrect
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If you’re talking about the game against Roma, Rudiger’s claims weren’t incorrect - the clip is out there where the monkey chants are clearly audible from the Roma fans in the corner as Rudiger wins the challenge. UEFA in their infinite wisdom just claimed that there was insufficient evidence, which was a disgrace but unsurprising given their stance on the issue over the years.

More generally the first step in eradicating racism from the game is to stop all this ‘Whataboutary’ as Barry Glenndenning describes it. Where the first reaction when a teams fans are accused of racism is to point out other examples of another team’s fans doing the same. I’ve seen it on this thread above and it’s all over Twitter. It’s irrelevant and undermines the fight against racism.

I said it on another thread that one fans behaviour does not reflect a fan base, it reflects issues in society. I absolutely refuse to be associated with the idiots in Paris a few years back just because they happen by chance to support the same football team as me for example. We need more of what happened at the weekend when racial abuse is reported immediately by fellow fans - that’s the way we can start to push back against this disease which is infecting our game.
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My whole point with sizzle is to wait for the investigation to be complete before going off in the deep end calling out these supposed fans.

Right now there is no evidence it’s happened bar Rudiger accusation.

The club has gone through the video and managed to pick out the people who threw things and rightly banned them but so far found no evidence of any racial abuse.

There’s plenty of fans in the area saying they never saw anything as have stewards. There is however one fan who thinks he did hear something so this will give the club absolute pin point placement to look again.

I don’t doubt Rüdiger believed he heard something and will back anything the club does if any individual is found guilty of it.

I one hundred percent agree on that it should reflect on any fan base it happens to.

I don’t feel ashamed that a spurs supporter is alleged to have done it as imo he doesn’t represent my club or my beliefs.

Son has had 4 incidents of racism against him in about 12 months one by a young boy from Burnley the few weeks ago.

It’s a sad situation but we have to let the investigation happen

posted on 24/12/19

What exactly is a monkey sound? It could have been a boo? Then that what be an ape sound.

No one questions the obvious.

It's all propaganda. Part of this new world agenda.

posted on 24/12/19

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
And we can all enjoy a nice white Christmas.
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Give this nonsense a rest again Sizz ffs

posted on 24/12/19

^Soon we will get arrested for boo-in the team because it will classified as making elephant sounds. Or cow sounds. And that will offend the gluten-free vegan hippies

posted on 24/12/19

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
And we can all enjoy a nice white Christmas.
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Give this nonsense a rest again Sizz ffs
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Did you get any bargains on Black Friday?

posted on 24/12/19

comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 54 minutes ago
https://i.redd.it/1c68vgtfgk641.gif

Wonder if Rudiger gets a retrospective ban for punching Son in the midriff? It also explains Sons reaction.
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Probably explains why we put in the appeal. Sons reaction was a red imo but agree Rudiger's initial actions should be looked into as well.

posted on 24/12/19

So Spurs fans are rascist because some of Chelsea's players are black. Did you forgot so are some of Spurs players? Oh, and parts of Tottenham are notoriously black.

You fools for believing all this nonsense.

The social-engineering propaganda machine has yet again pulled the wool over your eyes.

posted on 24/12/19

comment by Phendombele (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
And we can all enjoy a nice white Christmas.
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Fack off
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You first.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 24/12/19

This guy has taken a lot of stick for what he believes he heard, he has reported it to the club. It proves nothing of course, like the Chelsea fans that allegedly abused Sterling, no evidence of racial abuse was found against any of them.

https://twitter.com/JohnHall1985/status/1209090341585985536?s=09

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 seconds ago
This guy has taken a lot of stick for what he believes he heard, he has reported it to the club. It proves nothing of course, like the Chelsea fans that allegedly abused Sterling, no evidence of racial abuse was found against any of them.

https://twitter.com/JohnHall1985/status/1209090341585985536?s=09
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Chelsea fan got banned for life for that incident against sterling

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/30/chelsea-ban-fan-life-racial-abuse-raheem-sterling

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 seconds ago
This guy has taken a lot of stick for what he believes he heard, he has reported it to the club. It proves nothing of course, like the Chelsea fans that allegedly abused Sterling, no evidence of racial abuse was found against any of them.

https://twitter.com/JohnHall1985/status/1209090341585985536?s=09
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Chelsea fan got banned for life for that incident against sterling

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/30/chelsea-ban-fan-life-racial-abuse-raheem-sterling
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Of you read that you will note that the CPS and the police evidence said their was no proof. Yes the club banned him but not based on that evidence.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 seconds ago
This guy has taken a lot of stick for what he believes he heard, he has reported it to the club. It proves nothing of course, like the Chelsea fans that allegedly abused Sterling, no evidence of racial abuse was found against any of them.

https://twitter.com/JohnHall1985/status/1209090341585985536?s=09
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Chelsea fan got banned for life for that incident against sterling

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/30/chelsea-ban-fan-life-racial-abuse-raheem-sterling
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Of you read that you will note that the CPS and the police evidence said their was no proof. Yes the club banned him but not based on that evidence.
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Can’t see anywhere it says no proof just that criminal action wasn’t taken.

However the club had their own evidence which was enough to ban him for life and wouldn’t even take into account a education course.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 24/12/19

Anyway merry Christmas.

Signing off until Boxing Day now

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 29 seconds ago
Anyway merry Christmas.

Signing off until Boxing Day now
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Enjoy your day tomorrow mate

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 24/12/19

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 20 seconds ago
This guy has taken a lot of stick for what he believes he heard, he has reported it to the club. It proves nothing of course, like the Chelsea fans that allegedly abused Sterling, no evidence of racial abuse was found against any of them.

https://twitter.com/JohnHall1985/status/1209090341585985536?s=09
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Chelsea fan got banned for life for that incident against sterling

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/30/chelsea-ban-fan-life-racial-abuse-raheem-sterling
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Of you read that you will note that the CPS and the police evidence said their was no proof. Yes the club banned him but not based on that evidence.
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Can’t see anywhere it says no proof just that criminal action wasn’t taken.

However the club had their own evidence which was enough to ban him for life and wouldn’t even take into account a education course.
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I would of thought that was obvious by the fact that they did not prosecute, with regards the evidence the club produced, ask yourself why the CPS didn't use it? Not trying to excuse anything here just highlighting the fact that these incidents get twisted and blurred. Some claim to have hard things others not, some find evidence where others can't.

In respect of our club, they acted where the police wouldn't, maybe they should be applauded for that at least.

comment by Blarmy (U14547)

posted on 25/12/19

I reiterate my point from earlier about the guys that think he misheard some booing

This is a professional footballer with over 200 appearances. He would know what booing sounds like and when he hears something.ething different

posted on 25/12/19

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 10 hours, 37 minutes ago
I reiterate my point from earlier about the guys that think he misheard some booing

This is a professional footballer with over 200 appearances. He would know what booing sounds like and when he hears something.ething different
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Nobody misheard anything.

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