comment by rats juice a big perry baps nat ❤️ (U6393)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t have an issue with anything on this site cos it’s far more sane than the majority of ones I’ve seen.
If a few fancy meeting up for a pint then all the better. It actually put 606 in a good light. And long may that continue.
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Something I didn't think I would do. Very glad I grew a pair and checked it out.
Made some great friends and had some great memories.
Also due to the fact I'm far younger than most of them I received some invaluable advice on business, life, shoplifting.
comment by rats juice a big perry baps nat ❤️ (U6393)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don’t have an issue with anything on this site cos it’s far more sane than the majority of ones I’ve seen.
If a few fancy meeting up for a pint then all the better. It actually put 606 in a good light. And long may that continue.
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I attend only for the shex
I don’t drink I am not a misfit and hate charity
We are a broad church
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comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 35 minutes ago
"it's an anonymous forum. Take people as they come"
========
Half the cants on here have been to each other's weddings, bar mitzvah's and funerals, ffs some have even gotten jobs out of it.
Anonymous
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair it’s anonymous to those who choose
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Is there no end to this anti-clique paranoia.
Few, it's a bunch of misfits having a beer and raising money for charity. You would really need to be ill to have an issue with that.
----------------------------------------------------
Someone said this is an anonymous forum, I stated that some have been to social events together, and due to that fact it's no longer anonymous for them. Go figure.
Magnum, who has issues with people meeting up for a beer?
Magnum, who has issues with people raising money for charity?
I look forward to your usual crap response trying to joint the dots.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 35 minutes ago
"it's an anonymous forum. Take people as they come"
========
Half the cants on here have been to each other's weddings, bar mitzvah's and funerals, ffs some have even gotten jobs out of it.
Anonymous
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair it’s anonymous to those who choose
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there no end to this anti-clique paranoia.
Few, it's a bunch of misfits having a beer and raising money for charity. You would really need to be ill to have an issue with that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know
Look at us enjoying ourselves and not hitting people and laughing and stuff
Hangings too good for us
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It is mate. It's a good boot up the erse we're needin !
Misfits'r'us right enough.
Never told the guys that were there but last weekend I get a taxi to the Admiral cos the trains are flooded. Rain and wind lashing the streets. Get to the door and bouncer gives me grief.
Are you alone? WTF does it look like?
Where you been? You miss me getting out the taxi?
Get past Knuckles expecting it to be heaving inside to find its the quietest I've ever seen the place - 20-30 folk, a few drunks watching the 'pool game. By the time I left it was even quieter.
WTF was that all about other than looking like a misfit?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago
Misfits'r'us right enough.
Never told the guys that were there but last weekend I get a taxi to the Admiral cos the trains are flooded. Rain and wind lashing the streets. Get to the door and bouncer gives me grief.
Are you alone? WTF does it look like?
Where you been? You miss me getting out the taxi?
Get past Knuckles expecting it to be heaving inside to find its the quietest I've ever seen the place - 20-30 folk, a few drunks watching the 'pool game. By the time I left it was even quieter.
WTF was that all about other than looking like a misfit?
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Tbh the youths get it worse.
Used to have to plan way ahead. Come from different sides and ensure we had a burd from queue or pal with us in order to get in.
Total power trip. I understand they've a job to do but some are bullies.
Having said that, special mention to oranmor bouncers (8pound an hour faggotvideo) who saved my brother's life after he fell pashed. Most places would have turfed him out. They were only concerned about his safety and recognised something wasn't right.
Something we all had missed as well.
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 35 minutes ago
"it's an anonymous forum. Take people as they come"
========
Half the cants on here have been to each other's weddings, bar mitzvah's and funerals, ffs some have even gotten jobs out of it.
Anonymous
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair it’s anonymous to those who choose
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there no end to this anti-clique paranoia.
Few, it's a bunch of misfits having a beer and raising money for charity. You would really need to be ill to have an issue with that.
----------------------------------------------------
Someone said this is an anonymous forum, I stated that some have been to social events together, and due to that fact it's no longer anonymous for them. Go figure.
Magnum, who has issues with people meeting up for a beer?
Magnum, who has issues with people raising money for charity?
I look forward to your usual crap response trying to joint the dots.
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You know what is worse?
When someone from your previous career tells his wee gang on here what your name is in real life.
Then one of his wee gang starts addressing you by that name.
You may have a gripe with a poster (don't we all) but you never release personal stuff on here.
Unfortunately it would appear that someone who I thought (due to my previous career) would know better.
Really not impressed.
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
most people on here know my name.
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
most people on here know my name.
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Alright Dave
Hows things?
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
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Had a wee look there.
I'd say that the poster concerned is flattering himself a bit..i highly doubt if anyone on here gives a flying fack who he is anyway.
The only person I've seen giving away any of his personal information on here is the guy himself.
As for Zico..,you definitely have a problem with what you perceive as the 'clique'. The clique is just a bunch if guys who have the occasional beer and occasionally try to raise funds for charity. So if you have a problem with the clique, that's what you have a problem with.
Anyway..leave me out of your nonsense in future, I have no interest in conversing with you.
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
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Got the feeling he was talking about you-and of all the people on here that would divulge that kind of info, you’re pretty much at the bottom of it.
Paranoid and attention seeking. I didn’t see where his name was mentioned-only seen a first name bandied about, which I thought was just a bit of a mickey take rather than outing someone.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got the feeling he was talking about you-and of all the people on here that would divulge that kind of info, you’re pretty much at the bottom of it.
Paranoid and attention seeking. I didn’t see where his name was mentioned-only seen a first name bandied about, which I thought was just a bit of a mickey take rather than outing someone.
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Cheers Archie
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got the feeling he was talking about you-and of all the people on here that would divulge that kind of info, you’re pretty much at the bottom of it.
Paranoid and attention seeking. I didn’t see where his name was mentioned-only seen a first name bandied about, which I thought was just a bit of a mickey take rather than outing someone.
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I thought it was generic 'billy' chat....as I'm sure 99% of people did. I would never have known differently if he hadn't mentioned it.
comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 21 seconds ago
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
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It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 21 seconds ago
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remember?
TMQ abandoned the Pequod early
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 21 seconds ago
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remember?
TMQ abandoned the Pequod early
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Had a whale of a time
Hope it's not the same ould scene.
Pedro posts.
More than one other poster takes him on = 'wee gang'.
Maybe we should adopt a turnstile 'wan at a time' situ.
Just for Pedro.
awww man not the clique chat again
can we just ban that man, its the same arguments each time.
i like zico as a poster on here tbh
<It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,>
I used to respect you man.
No way.
Ishy had dozens of cliches.
This fella's got 2 and a half.
Sign in if you want to comment
Hagi
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posted on 21/2/20
comment by rats juice a big perry baps nat ❤️ (U6393)
posted 1 minute ago
I don’t have an issue with anything on this site cos it’s far more sane than the majority of ones I’ve seen.
If a few fancy meeting up for a pint then all the better. It actually put 606 in a good light. And long may that continue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Something I didn't think I would do. Very glad I grew a pair and checked it out.
Made some great friends and had some great memories.
Also due to the fact I'm far younger than most of them I received some invaluable advice on business, life, shoplifting.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by rats juice a big perry baps nat ❤️ (U6393)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don’t have an issue with anything on this site cos it’s far more sane than the majority of ones I’ve seen.
If a few fancy meeting up for a pint then all the better. It actually put 606 in a good light. And long may that continue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I attend only for the shex
I don’t drink I am not a misfit and hate charity
We are a broad church
posted on 21/2/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 35 minutes ago
"it's an anonymous forum. Take people as they come"
========
Half the cants on here have been to each other's weddings, bar mitzvah's and funerals, ffs some have even gotten jobs out of it.
Anonymous
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair it’s anonymous to those who choose
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there no end to this anti-clique paranoia.
Few, it's a bunch of misfits having a beer and raising money for charity. You would really need to be ill to have an issue with that.
----------------------------------------------------
Someone said this is an anonymous forum, I stated that some have been to social events together, and due to that fact it's no longer anonymous for them. Go figure.
Magnum, who has issues with people meeting up for a beer?
Magnum, who has issues with people raising money for charity?
I look forward to your usual crap response trying to joint the dots.
posted on 21/2/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 21/2/20
Accommodate tolerate
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 35 minutes ago
"it's an anonymous forum. Take people as they come"
========
Half the cants on here have been to each other's weddings, bar mitzvah's and funerals, ffs some have even gotten jobs out of it.
Anonymous
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair it’s anonymous to those who choose
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there no end to this anti-clique paranoia.
Few, it's a bunch of misfits having a beer and raising money for charity. You would really need to be ill to have an issue with that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know
Look at us enjoying ourselves and not hitting people and laughing and stuff
Hangings too good for us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is mate. It's a good boot up the erse we're needin !
posted on 21/2/20
Misfits'r'us right enough.
Never told the guys that were there but last weekend I get a taxi to the Admiral cos the trains are flooded. Rain and wind lashing the streets. Get to the door and bouncer gives me grief.
Are you alone? WTF does it look like?
Where you been? You miss me getting out the taxi?
Get past Knuckles expecting it to be heaving inside to find its the quietest I've ever seen the place - 20-30 folk, a few drunks watching the 'pool game. By the time I left it was even quieter.
WTF was that all about other than looking like a misfit?
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 30 minutes ago
Misfits'r'us right enough.
Never told the guys that were there but last weekend I get a taxi to the Admiral cos the trains are flooded. Rain and wind lashing the streets. Get to the door and bouncer gives me grief.
Are you alone? WTF does it look like?
Where you been? You miss me getting out the taxi?
Get past Knuckles expecting it to be heaving inside to find its the quietest I've ever seen the place - 20-30 folk, a few drunks watching the 'pool game. By the time I left it was even quieter.
WTF was that all about other than looking like a misfit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbh the youths get it worse.
Used to have to plan way ahead. Come from different sides and ensure we had a burd from queue or pal with us in order to get in.
Total power trip. I understand they've a job to do but some are bullies.
Having said that, special mention to oranmor bouncers (8pound an hour faggotvideo) who saved my brother's life after he fell pashed. Most places would have turfed him out. They were only concerned about his safety and recognised something wasn't right.
Something we all had missed as well.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(Need someone run off your land, call the new sheriff) (U1850)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 35 minutes ago
"it's an anonymous forum. Take people as they come"
========
Half the cants on here have been to each other's weddings, bar mitzvah's and funerals, ffs some have even gotten jobs out of it.
Anonymous
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair it’s anonymous to those who choose
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there no end to this anti-clique paranoia.
Few, it's a bunch of misfits having a beer and raising money for charity. You would really need to be ill to have an issue with that.
----------------------------------------------------
Someone said this is an anonymous forum, I stated that some have been to social events together, and due to that fact it's no longer anonymous for them. Go figure.
Magnum, who has issues with people meeting up for a beer?
Magnum, who has issues with people raising money for charity?
I look forward to your usual crap response trying to joint the dots.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You know what is worse?
When someone from your previous career tells his wee gang on here what your name is in real life.
Then one of his wee gang starts addressing you by that name.
You may have a gripe with a poster (don't we all) but you never release personal stuff on here.
Unfortunately it would appear that someone who I thought (due to my previous career) would know better.
Really not impressed.
posted on 21/2/20
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
posted on 21/2/20
most people on here know my name.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
most people on here know my name.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Alright Dave
Hows things?
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Had a wee look there.
I'd say that the poster concerned is flattering himself a bit..i highly doubt if anyone on here gives a flying fack who he is anyway.
The only person I've seen giving away any of his personal information on here is the guy himself.
As for Zico..,you definitely have a problem with what you perceive as the 'clique'. The clique is just a bunch if guys who have the occasional beer and occasionally try to raise funds for charity. So if you have a problem with the clique, that's what you have a problem with.
Anyway..leave me out of your nonsense in future, I have no interest in conversing with you.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got the feeling he was talking about you-and of all the people on here that would divulge that kind of info, you’re pretty much at the bottom of it.
Paranoid and attention seeking. I didn’t see where his name was mentioned-only seen a first name bandied about, which I thought was just a bit of a mickey take rather than outing someone.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got the feeling he was talking about you-and of all the people on here that would divulge that kind of info, you’re pretty much at the bottom of it.
Paranoid and attention seeking. I didn’t see where his name was mentioned-only seen a first name bandied about, which I thought was just a bit of a mickey take rather than outing someone.
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Cheers Archie
posted on 21/2/20
no bad trig hows u
posted on 21/2/20
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he is talking about me. I won't get into his claims. Not worth it. Pretty disappointed to be honest.
Especially given there is so much I could say but haven't. Very very personal stuff.
Folk on here that know me know how I would never betray any private info on here.
Ffs I'm probably the poster who knows everyone's real name through the JA Votes. I'd never pass that on without permission. Even Boris, sorry Admin 1, knows that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got the feeling he was talking about you-and of all the people on here that would divulge that kind of info, you’re pretty much at the bottom of it.
Paranoid and attention seeking. I didn’t see where his name was mentioned-only seen a first name bandied about, which I thought was just a bit of a mickey take rather than outing someone.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought it was generic 'billy' chat....as I'm sure 99% of people did. I would never have known differently if he hadn't mentioned it.
posted on 21/2/20
comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 21 seconds ago
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,
posted on 21/2/20
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 21 seconds ago
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remember?
TMQ abandoned the Pequod early
posted on 21/2/20
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 21 seconds ago
< wee gang >
You are a Winner Sir!
That is the 1000th time you have coupled those words
Under your DC name of course.
Other screen names will be taken into account etc etc.
need to read back now only got 30 mins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remember?
TMQ abandoned the Pequod early
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Had a whale of a time
posted on 21/2/20
Hope it's not the same ould scene.
Pedro posts.
More than one other poster takes him on = 'wee gang'.
Maybe we should adopt a turnstile 'wan at a time' situ.
Just for Pedro.
posted on 21/2/20
awww man not the clique chat again
can we just ban that man, its the same arguments each time.
i like zico as a poster on here tbh
posted on 21/2/20
<It's Ishy mate in case you haven't worked it out,>
I used to respect you man.
No way.
Ishy had dozens of cliches.
This fella's got 2 and a half.
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