or to join or start a new Discussion

Articles/all comments
These 45 comments are related to an article called:

Daniel Levy

Page 1 of 2

posted on 2/3/20

Too long, didn't read...

Daniel Levy - Yay or Nay?

posted on 2/3/20

comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 2 minutes ago
Too long, didn't read...

Daniel Levy - Yay or Nay?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd much rather have stayed at White Hart Lane for another 5-10 years if it meant that we could continue 'punching above our weight' throughout that time

rather than the stadium sucking up every last nickel we had and every last bit of enthusiasm for the club

I understand in the long run the stadium will see us onto the next level blah blah

but if I don't see success in my life time then I don't give a fack if it happens after I'm gone as I won't ever know about it

posted on 2/3/20

Don't worry too much Sem. You'll be looking down from the heavens one day watching us lift the Carling Cup and handing it over to the team we lost to.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 2/3/20

comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 minutes ago
Too long, didn't read...

Daniel Levy - Yay or Nay?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Right now Yay

I think we need to split his tenure up with pre and post stadium.

Off the pitch pre stadium he’s built us into a unrecognisable club to the one enic bought but on the pitch has been a pretty big let down who lucked out by having LVG turn us down and getting in poch who was a godsend.

Now post stadium our spending has gone up considerably as has the wages.

Now this summer with no CL we will see if levy wants us to be a big club on the pitch as well as off it as he’s going to have to dig deeper than ever before to sort this quite frankly poor squad out.

So now it’s a yay but come August that could change if he doesn’t show the ambition to match the stadium.

posted on 2/3/20

I'd agree with that - for me how successful Mourinho is will solidify my position on Daniel Levy. If Mourinho fails during his years at Spurs I will blame Daniel Levy and if I had an ounce of power would wish him gone.

posted on 2/3/20

I'm not sure Mane didn't choose Spurs due to financial reasons, at least if his agent is to be believed.

“Sadio had five offers in the summer and financially all of them were good,” said Bezemer. “We wanted the right team, with the right coach at the right moment to arrive at the next level. That is the reason Sadio went to Anfield”

Although I'm sure the more money you offer, the better chance you have.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 2/3/20

Not a fan of Levy anymore. Too many poor decisions from him leading to us missing out on silverware, players, and CL. You wonder why we are so Spursy at times, well a big part of that is down to him. What makes it worse is he doesn't appear to learn from his mistakes. We've had 10 years of his pisss poor approach, with the same lack of spending, lack of making priority signings, lack of doing business before late on in a window. Where is it getting us? 1 trophy in 20 years is where, and back where we started in mid-table mediocrity.

posted on 2/3/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm not sure Mane didn't choose Spurs due to financial reasons, at least if his agent is to be believed.

“Sadio had five offers in the summer and financially all of them were good,” said Bezemer. “We wanted the right team, with the right coach at the right moment to arrive at the next level. That is the reason Sadio went to Anfield”

Although I'm sure the more money you offer, the better chance you have.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Mane had supposedly visited the stadium and training grounds. We were also doing better than Liverpool at the time with no indication that you would overtake especially in the manner that you have.

Agent would have said the same thing had he gone to Spurs, Bayern, Real Madrid or Notts County.

posted on 2/3/20

My worry is whether we are just going to continue making poor footballing decisions, going through the same problems but in a nicer stadium.

posted on 2/3/20

comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm not sure Mane didn't choose Spurs due to financial reasons, at least if his agent is to be believed.

“Sadio had five offers in the summer and financially all of them were good,” said Bezemer. “We wanted the right team, with the right coach at the right moment to arrive at the next level. That is the reason Sadio went to Anfield”

Although I'm sure the more money you offer, the better chance you have.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Mane had supposedly visited the stadium and training grounds. We were also doing better than Liverpool at the time with no indication that you would overtake especially in the manner that you have.

Agent would have said the same thing had he gone to Spurs, Bayern, Real Madrid or Notts County.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also would have said the same thing if it were true.

Ultimately the agent said he wanted the right team, with the right coach at the right moment to arrive at the next level, which has turned out to be correct.

posted on 2/3/20

Still, we finished 2nd and had a brilliant points total.


We have never finished 2nd in recent years but if you were looking from the outside in, Levy's plan was always to put in the infrastructure to make Spurs a European Giant. Now the stadium is complete and the funding for it has now been restructured I believe we are in a position to now give the manager a positive net spend most windows.

The club will soon announce it's annual results (usually around this time of year) and I have said in another article this summer's window's will be make or break in terms of Levy backing the manager. Lets not forget the signings and net spend from last summer. Stevie B's signing was offset from Eriksen leaving.

Also be careful what you wish for in terms of Levy Out. Due to FFP any new owner will be working within limits and potentially our transfer and wage budget could be affected if they take out massive loans.

Having Levy around for a few more years might actually be a good thing. I know patience is wearing thin but over the course of the next 6 months we will know where we stand in terms of Levy's ambition for the team.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 2/3/20

From all the evidence given it's pretty clear he's a man who cares about money and profits more than anything else. It's that that will stop us from ever truly becoming a successful club, while he's in charge.

posted on 2/3/20

1 trophy in 20 years under his leadership. Absolutely atrocious for a club of our size, embarrassing. This is down to him and ENIC not investing enough on the playing field and not investing at the appropriate times. I couldn’t give a flying f** about the fancy training ground or stadium right now, I want to see this club win stuff.

posted on 2/3/20

We finished second in 2016/17 or does that not count as "recent years"?

posted on 2/3/20

Apologies, I had the season we finished 3rd in a 2 horse race in mind. Damn those Leicester mongies for that cr@p song!

posted on 2/3/20

The FFP having a positive impact on Spurs I would take with a pinch of salt. There is no guarantee of that especially with how corrupt football can be and the loop holes involved.

The problem has been an overly tight control on finances. If we had invested £100m for example at the peak of our squad we might well have cross the trophy line.

Now we are having to spend those sums of money to just get back to where we were. Let alone to actually improve and challenge our closest rivals. The 18 months without a single transfers, which came when our squad had stagnated and losing motivation was the most criminal of all acts he has done.

posted on 2/3/20

I think the Stadium will pay dividends. All the top teams in the EPL get more or less the same TV money.. Our matchday rev. will jump from about £45m to £100-£120m as a result of the move. That's a massive sum of money. Together with NFL, potential franchise and other uses of the stadium (Joshua fight in June, Guns & Roses, Saracens rugby etc) this is all new revenue to the club. Stadium sponsorship also a possibility.

If we had stayed at old WHL then we would have been massively handicapped hitting a low ceiling where we would be relying on punching above our weight to do better than 6th place. Now our revenues are greater than Arsenal's. Our European presence is greater than Arsenals and there is very little Arsenal can do to recover that position right now.

It is a shame that in an era where we had Poch and a young developing team that was reaching its peak we also had the Wembley move, the financial restrictions of the new build and then the 'bedding in to new WHL' issue.

People have to look long term. All the infrastructure is now in place to really push on and that will take more than 1 window. 1 window by the way when we spent record sums of money and having opened the new WHL have spent £150m net

posted on 2/3/20

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted on 2/10/19

Pochettino is an excellent manager but he's been hamstrung by the board and his methods are going stale since he's been drumming it into pretty much the same group for years now, and he's far too stubborn to change things up.

The players are talented but they're growing bored and restless because there's not been enough change or competition to keep things fresh, and they're largely underpaid compared to their peers.

Put all that together and it's a bad mix. It all adds up to one thing - stagnation. Just about the worst thing that can happen in elite sports, where everyone needs to be kept constantly on their toes to keep things progressing and improving.

Ultimately the blame rests with the board for failing to forecast properly and keep the player base turning over adequately. But the players and Pochettino aren't blameless either, they're also underperforming, albeit I think they're more symptoms of the wider issue than the root cause.

Big problems with no quick solution. A new manager would freshen things up in the short term at least, no doubt, but I don't think that would guarantee anything would change in the long run.

I'd say:

Pochettino - 25%
Players - 25%
Board - 50% as the root cause without which Pochettino and the players wouldn't in the position to fack up so badly












Said this back in October, and it seems to apply to this thread just as well

posted on 2/3/20

Slightly more on-topic though... yeah, you can obviously see the reasoning for all of Levy's decisions when it comes to focussing on off-field development at the cost of investing in the playing squad. It may be proven that Levy was right all along, and in 3-4 years' time Spurs suddenly start reaping the benefit of the new stadium and all that comes along with it, and the club starts pushing for the biggest trophies on a regular basis.

Doesn't seem likely though, does it. And that's because of a load of catastrophically bad decisions the board took at certain key times. It's all very well having a good long-term plan, and obviously you can't predict everything in a landscape as volatile as football, but... just a few decisions, like the no-signings season, like selling Dembele and Walker, like sacking Pochettino and bringing in a successor who was a strange fit for the club even on an optimistic view...

This summer is HUGE for Spurs' future. I can fully understand why people don't want Levy/ENIC gone yet, considering the fact that the grass might not be any greener with new owners. But if this summer doesn't see proper, positive changes made to the squad and the scouting infrastructure... I can't see how anyone could still back Levy.

posted on 2/3/20

It's all good and well having that money but means absolutely nothing if:

[A] We do not spend it
[B] Spend it without a plan

posted on 2/3/20

Pochettino at 25% is too harsh. A manager can only punch above their weight for so long before things stagnate and decline. Even SAF was a massive advocate of refreshing the squad every so often.

posted on 2/3/20

comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 23 seconds ago
Pochettino at 25% is too harsh. A manager can only punch above their weight for so long before things stagnate and decline. Even SAF was a massive advocate of refreshing the squad every so often.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, that was in October. In hindsight I'd definitely lower that percentage.

posted on 2/3/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 minutes ago
1 trophy in 20 years under his leadership. Absolutely atrocious for a club of our size, embarrassing. This is down to him and ENIC not investing enough on the playing field and not investing at the appropriate times. I couldn’t give a flying f** about the fancy training ground or stadium right now, I want to see this club win stuff.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think you have to apply some proper perspective to what ENIC have achieved. The EPL table in 2001 saw the following teams end above us:

Leeds (Championship)
Ipswich (League 1)
Sunderland (League 1)
Villa (up and down and probably down again this season)
Charlton (Championship)

We are also comparable to the likes of Everton and Newcastle

Of all of these clubs we have consistently done better. We moved towards challenging for the top 4, and after failed attempts by Jol & AVB we did it under Redknapp and more consistently under Poch.

We have basically out performed every team in the league outside of the traditional big clubs (Utd, Liverpool & Arsenal) and then the oild funded lot (CFC/City). While we have fluctuated in this top bracket, we are never the less in the top bracket and this has been achieved in a self sufficient way and achieved a level that no other team outside of that 5 have managed to do on a consistent level.

Getting us over the line in terms of being at the very upper end or winning a major trophy is a different and most challening part, however you cannot criticise ENIC for at least putting us in that position to challenge.

I dont actually think they are fully to blame for the lack of trophies. UCL final, FA Cup SFs, League cup finals/SF have been achieved and it is not always down to the quality of squad that has preventing us from winning.

UCL final, LFC played poorly and the chance was there to take the trophy. Poor selection ,poor substitutions poor display.

FA Cup SF 2018 - vs a poor Utd team saw another poor display with a full strength team.

FA Cup SF 2017 - vs Chelsea - A game we dominated and lost

Redknapp had a massive and quality squad which he failed to use fully or manage well enough. There are many reasons why we have not won a trophy and a lot of them have nothing to do with ENICs tenure.





posted on 2/3/20

comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 14 minutes ago
It's all good and well having that money but means absolutely nothing if:

[A] We do not spend it
[B] Spend it without a plan
----------------------------------------------------------------------

[A] We have just spent Net £150m

[B] We have replaced Eriksen with GLC. We have replaced Dembele with NDombele. Bergwijn adds further attacking options .

I'd say who we have bought is planned. Not all working out immediately as we'd want, esp. Ndombele.

Problem is that we actually need to replace more players but it cannot all be done at once. Could easily make a case for new RB, LB, CB CM and FWD. Even at Bergwijn levels that another £150m, but if we want some real nailed on quality you could probably double that.

comment by Mack (U6574)

posted on 2/3/20

Why would I give a monkeys about the training ground? Will I ever use it? Has it attracted title winning players?

As for the stadium it is vastly becoming associated with the shower that spurs have become. It’s a soulless shopping mall and the old white hart lane was worth ten of it.

Some of the Highest ticket prices in Europe for some of the worst football we’ve had at spurs in 15 years. Can’t even field a striker.

2 league cups in 20 years. That is appalling and no better than we did when we were apparently much much worse in the 90’s

Daniel levy is a fraud. He is about to make an absolute fortune from spurs, probably by selling the club. He has little interest further than the pound coin. Spurs will NEVER win a major title under his tenure. He will not invest this summer, he didn’t when we had a genuine chance of winning the title, why on earth would he when we have no champions league football?

Spurs fans need to stop being blinded by the sparkly shopping mall and see what our club is becoming. Does anyone enjoy going to watch us right now? Even in the shopping mall? Anyone?

I doubt it. That’s all Levy

👍

Page 1 of 2

Sign in if you want to comment