https://england.shelter.org.uk/media/press_releases/articles/almost_half_of_working_renters_only_one_paycheque_away_from_losing_their_home

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 44 minutes ago
https://england.shelter.org.uk/media/press_releases/articles/almost_half_of_working_renters_only_one_paycheque_away_from_losing_their_home
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Same in the US

The response by governments across the world has been disgraceful.

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They don’t want to prematurely close everything down. What don’t you get?

It really hasn’t been disgraceful. It’s been sensible and pragmatic and highly considerate of the most vulnerable.

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 11 seconds ago
They don’t want to prematurely close everything down. What don’t you get?
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Prematurely 😂

It’s already here

I find it interesting how so many are quick to give a massive crap about something that carries a personal threat but something like climate change yields a completely indifferent response.

The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math

1. has it not been established that most people are infectious before showing symptoms?

No. It’s unlikely you’ll pass it on before showing symptoms. Stop reading the Star.

comment by KloppsMop (U13071)
posted 4 minutes ago
I find it interesting how so many are quick to give a massive crap about something that carries a personal threat but something like climate change yields a completely indifferent response.
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That’s called the pressure of time. It’s natural to react to something in your face and immediate versus something that we need to deal with now but the ultimate consequences are in the future

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 seconds ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
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Of course most people will get it - but the point of isolating people is to flatten the curve and stagger out the infections as to help the NHS. If we don’t ban public gatherings etc then this is going to peak to the point that the NHS collapses

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We’re 3/4 weeks behind Italy

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 58 seconds ago
We’re 3/4 weeks behind Italy
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You don't know that. Most countries seem to have different outcomes.
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Most of the experts agree on that - they are even saying the pattern is following in the exact way

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comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 seconds ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
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Of course most people will get it - but the point of isolating people is to flatten the curve and stagger out the infections as to help the NHS. If we don’t ban public gatherings etc then this is going to peak to the point that the NHS collapses
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Public gatherings such as sporting events etc sure and I personally won’t be using public transport but that doesn’t effect my life too much so I can. But telling people to not come to work is premature and will do more harm than good

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
---------------------------------------------------------------------All viruses can only survive for 12-16 hrs on hard surfaces, not days 👍

comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
---------------------------------------------------------------------All viruses can only survive for 12-16 hrs on hard surfaces, not days 👍
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I’m pretty sure that tests revealed last week that it can last longer than that. Even if 12-16 hours is correct that’s still a long time and the spread is inevitable which was my macro point.

comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 seconds ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
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Of course most people will get it - but the point of isolating people is to flatten the curve and stagger out the infections as to help the NHS. If we don’t ban public gatherings etc then this is going to peak to the point that the NHS collapses
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Can’t people make their own decision not to attend?

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 seconds ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
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Of course most people will get it - but the point of isolating people is to flatten the curve and stagger out the infections as to help the NHS. If we don’t ban public gatherings etc then this is going to peak to the point that the NHS collapses
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Can’t people make their own decision not to attend?
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I’m sorry, what?

Why do people need to be banned from attending public gatherings, rather than deciding for themselves not to attend?

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 4 seconds ago
Why do people need to be banned from attending public gatherings, rather than deciding for themselves not to attend?
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Wow, think about it and get back to me 👍

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 54 seconds ago
The reality is that pretty much everyone is going to come into contact with this virus. Especially those in large cities. So as mentioned above, why shut down prematurely?

I don’t think some of you understand that there is basically nothing that we can do at this stage. The elderly need to self isolate as much as possible but this virus can live on surfaces for days and can be passed when you are within 6 feet of someone, masks don’t do anything, people have to breath and you can have the virus with no symptoms for like a week.

Do the math
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Of course most people will get it - but the point of isolating people is to flatten the curve and stagger out the infections as to help the NHS. If we don’t ban public gatherings etc then this is going to peak to the point that the NHS collapses
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Can’t people make their own decision not to attend?
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No. Leadership should come from the top.