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Let's not repeat city's mistakes.

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posted on 31/5/20

Laporte was Kompany's replacement and he was injured most of the season.

In other words, buy a player who won't get injured and you may have a third succesful(ish) season to look forward to.

posted on 31/5/20

Liverpool only dropped 5 points up to the point that the season was put on hold. Yes I know City are 25 behind but its unlikely that any Kompany replacement would have made much difference in this league race.

You dont just walk up and buy someone with Kompany's experience.When you think back to last seasons Title race, in terms of football ability, Kompany was not at City standards anymore.Its his experience that kept him on the pitch and it was telling especially in key games.

If you want to pinpoint Citys biggest loss then its Laporte but I still think him playing would only have narrowed Liverpools lead, not Changed the eventual winner.

And you are smoking your socks if you think City made any monumental mistakes because they did not.They have already won the League Cup, are hot favourites to win the FA Cup and one of the strong favourites for Champions League.

They will in all likelihood end the season with 2 trophies and a strong run in europe. To add to their domestic dominance in the last 4 seasons one could still argue that they are still Enghlands top team.

I get where you are trying to go with your article but City is a bad example.

posted on 31/5/20

I think sturridge is already gone and Milner is 33 I think....
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Umm I think Studge has been gone for 11 months GB keep up

posted on 31/5/20

The law of averages means that every club will stumble onto a group of players who just click together. Some clubs will naturally have more "golden-eras" than others.

Liverpool are no different. They realised they had the makings of a decent side and hired a manager who fortunately knew how to sandpaper the rough edges out by dipping into the market.

The only thing standing between Klopp and greatness is whether he can build another Liverpool side from scratch. A tough call, given all the duds he's bought in the process.

posted on 31/5/20

Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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We're European champions though and soon to be league champions.

posted on 31/5/20

Oh and world champions.

posted on 31/5/20

Mbappe

posted on 31/5/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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I hate to break it to you but we are the CURRENT Champions of Europe

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
The law of averages means that every club will stumble onto a group of players who just click together. Some clubs will naturally have more "golden-eras" than others.

Liverpool are no different. They realised they had the makings of a decent side and hired a manager who fortunately knew how to sandpaper the rough edges out by dipping into the market.

The only thing standing between Klopp and greatness is whether he can build another Liverpool side from scratch. A tough call, given all the duds he's bought in the process.
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Duds?

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
The law of averages means that every club will stumble onto a group of players who just click together. Some clubs will naturally have more "golden-eras" than others.

Liverpool are no different. They realised they had the makings of a decent side and hired a manager who fortunately knew how to sandpaper the rough edges out by dipping into the market.

The only thing standing between Klopp and greatness is whether he can build another Liverpool side from scratch. A tough call, given all the duds he's bought in the process.
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Duds?
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Bizarre comment. I've got to hear who all these duds are.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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Currently the best side in Europe statistically. I imagine that would make us the best side in the world.

http://clubelo.com/All

Also 4th best club team in history.


http://clubelo.com/Stats

posted on 31/5/20

comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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I hate to break it to you but we are the CURRENT Champions of Europe
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Ex Champions, you got knocked out of this years CL.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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I hate to break it to you but we are the CURRENT Champions of Europe
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Ex Champions, you got knocked out of this years CL.
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A new champ hasnt been crowned. We are still reigning until that happens.

posted on 31/5/20

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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Currently the best side in Europe statistically. I imagine that would make us the best side in the world.

http://clubelo.com/All

Also 4th best club team in history.


http://clubelo.com/Stats
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Ok, I’m a City fan.

How the hell are City above United in the “best club team in history” table?

City won the league, fa cup, and league cup in 2019.

United won the champions league and league in 2008.

United also won the treble (CL, league, and Fa cup) in 99. So how is United In 2008 statistically a better club team in 2008 than 1999?

posted on 31/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
Liverpool are not the best club side in the world, they are not even in the top club competition in the world, the CL.
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Currently the best side in Europe statistically. I imagine that would make us the best side in the world.

http://clubelo.com/All

Also 4th best club team in history.


http://clubelo.com/Stats
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Ok, I’m a City fan.

How the hell are City above United in the “best club team in history” table?

City won the league, fa cup, and league cup in 2019.

United won the champions league and league in 2008.

United also won the treble (CL, league, and Fa cup) in 99. So how is United In 2008 statistically a better club team in 2008 than 1999?
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The rankings are based on every match a team plays, and the quality of opponent. City must have done better l.

posted on 31/5/20

Then I think the ranking is flawed in its analysis.

How is it based on the quality of opponent? I mean, how do you rank the quality of, say, Watford in 2020 compared to Watford in 1984 (just to use a completely random example)?

Why isn’t the Liverpool team or the late 70s or early to mid 80s nowhere to be seen?

Or the Real Madrid team of the 50s which won 5 European cups on the bounce?

While the MTK Budapest team (Hungary) in 1955 are listed, if it’s based on quality of opponent?

posted on 31/5/20

Chelsea ‘08 above United ‘08?

Again quality of opponent?

posted on 31/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 53 seconds ago
Chelsea ‘08 above United ‘08?

Again quality of opponent?
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The methodology is clearly laid out. The quality of opponent is based in the ELO ranking of the opponent at the time. Right now, Liverpool are considered to be the best team in Europe, so a team beating liverpool will gain more points than if they had beaten any other European team.

posted on 31/5/20

Liverpool are the best team in Europe as of this time, don't really know who you can say are better. The one's are saying that Liverpool aren't because they are out of the CL will probably also say that Atletico are better because they beat them over 2 legs which would just be a ludicrous statement.

posted on 31/5/20

What does ELO stand for?

It also states on that site that:

“In a very heterogeneous entity like European club football, Elo ratings put a club's results into perspective. Leagues vary greatly in quality and a metric that takes opposition strength into account is indispenable to compare clubs across leagues.”

So I’ll ask you again, quality of opponent?

posted on 31/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
What does ELO stand for?

It also states on that site that:

“In a very heterogeneous entity like European club football, Elo ratings put a club's results into perspective. Leagues vary greatly in quality and a metric that takes opposition strength into account is indispenable to compare clubs across leagues.”

So I’ll ask you again, quality of opponent?

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Do any other leagues in Europe have the same quality as what Liverpool face in England? Imo, no they don't. The cliche of the PL being the hardest league in the World is there for a reason after all.

posted on 31/5/20

Just another,

You’ve completely missed the point I’m making.

I did actually question how MTK of Hungary can be above the likes of Madrid, when clearly the Hungarian league is not the same quality as the likes of The Spanish League.

Did you miss that?

How can you completely miss my point?

posted on 31/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 7 minutes ago
What does ELO stand for?

It also states on that site that:

“In a very heterogeneous entity like European club football, Elo ratings put a club's results into perspective. Leagues vary greatly in quality and a metric that takes opposition strength into account is indispenable to compare clubs across leagues.”

So I’ll ask you again, quality of opponent?

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Yes. Man City have a higher Elo (my error - it isn't an acronym) rating than West Ham. They are therefore considered to be a higher quality of opponent. So if you beat Man City you gained more points that if you beat West Ham, and Man City would lose an equal number of points (slightly lowering their quality due to the loss).

If this increase in points gives you more overall points than another team has then you go above them and at that point in time are considered to be better.

posted on 31/5/20

Did you also miss my example of using Watford?

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