Who's being hypocritical?
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who's being hypocritical?
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The police.
comment by CurrentlyIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who's being hypocritical?
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The police.
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I'm no fan of the po po particularly but given the destruction caused after Duggan it's a bit harsh on them.
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crowds are not allowed, unless you are ignorant and or dumb
I'm confused here, were any of the people making the actual decision on crowds in football games at the protest?
Cause if they wernt then I dont know who the hypocrites are...
What happened to George Floyd was criminal and inhumane.
I just don't get why a bunch of people over in this country feel the need to flaunt the current distancing rules and put the police and everyone they are in contact with at risk just for a bit of 21st century "virtue signalling".
Yes we're all appalled at what's gone on over there. I am also appalled at the idiots over here congregating to say so.
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 9 minutes ago
What happened to George Floyd was criminal and inhumane.
I just don't get why a bunch of people over in this country feel the need to flaunt the current distancing rules and put the police and everyone they are in contact with at risk just for a bit of 21st century "virtue signalling".
Yes we're all appalled at what's gone on over there. I am also appalled at the idiots over here congregating to say so.
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Spot on
I assume the police have been told not arrest the protestors for breaking the rules on distancing.
If they were protesting about something less "virtuous", the police would have a different approach.
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 10 minutes ago
What happened to George Floyd was criminal and inhumane.
I just don't get why a bunch of people over in this country feel the need to flaunt the current distancing rules and put the police and everyone they are in contact with at risk just for a bit of 21st century "virtue signalling".
Yes we're all appalled at what's gone on over there. I am also appalled at the idiots over here congregating to say so.
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Its not really virtue signalling though.
The UK, while nowhere near the level of outright aggression and hostility of law enforcement has plenty examples of incidents which have lead to the death of black men (and women) while in their custody which shouldnt have happened.
There is also the fact that, while the looters are wrong and should be dealt with in accordance to the law over the past week there has been numerous incidents where police have well, well, over stepped the mark, some have even been fired as a result of their actions, and I dont doubt more will follow, we do sell gear to the American police forces.
Now personally I believe when you look at these incidents we should have serious questions of our government allowing the sale of this gear to American police forces, I also believe that people should have the right to demonstrate the fact we are doing this.
I cant say I support the protests in the current pandemic background, however I think its not virture signalling as there are genuine grievousness that need to be, and should be aired
Eh? Has there been a mandate from Admin to dumb down articles or something?
Nothing says treat us fairy by rioting and looting.
USA is systematically racists, whether you are mexican, black, asian etc ect ect. The police are aggressive because people have guns.
I have no idea why people are protesting in the uk for something that has happened in the US and has nothing to do with our system.
Band Wagon.
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nothing says treat us fairy by rioting and looting.
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You're combining the two concepts. Who says rioters and looters are the same people saying treat us fair?
The protesters turned it into rioting and looting.
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
Football with its usual double standards. Orchestrated statements and token gestures condemning racism but happy to allow the Saudis to buy Newcastle United regardless of the country's appalling record on human rights.
Similarly Lewis Hamilton talks of his "anger, sadness and disbelief" but is strangely willing to drive in a Saudi grand prix or any other country where he can line his pockets regardless of human rights abuses.
"The protesters turned it into rioting and looting."
Wetherby, I think it more a case of trouble makers mixing with the protesters and using the protests for their own means!..
Guns in America!..
American people are brought up with guns, so the Police being brought up the same way are only acting the way they should!..
They're in protective mode, thing is mixing that with Race and Religion or anything else is taking it to far, but the race card in America is one of the biggest killers going!..
Its their way of life and will never be controlled because of guns!..
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
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Protests now in many major world cities on all continents. American ambassadors and diplomats being summoned to explain the actions of their government etc. Looks like the whole world is "virtue signalling" then?
Whilst I’m appalled at what that officer and his colleagues did I think many are using this as an excuse to overthrow governments they didn’t vote in personally and hate. Some are also using it as an excuse to loot.
The US is much different to the UK. Guns and violent crime are much more prevalent but the facts are that the latest figures show that more whites are killed by their police than any other colour.
Gun culture really is the main reason. The police routinely shoot anyone who they think is armed and likely to use their weapon.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/police-shootings-us-death-toll-gun-control-officers-a8777046.html
comment by Jurgen Klopp (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
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Protests now in many major world cities on all continents. American ambassadors and diplomats being summoned to explain the actions of their government etc. Looks like the whole world is "virtue signalling" then?
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Yes.
China has also joined in. Pointing out to its people that the US is becoming a Police State.
Pressure should certainly be applied to the US as it obviously is not sticking to the letter of its Constitution. That pressure should primarily come from the people of the US via their elected representatives.
I don't see how a gang of protesters in London (a protest that turned violent by the way) is in any way "supporting" a cause in the US. As some bright person spotted earlier somewhere on this forum - how is a "Black Lives Matter" protest with no social distancing going to help black people in UK cities when it's believed that people of BAME descent are more susceptible to Covid 19? It's going to kill the people who they are trying to show solidarity with.
Back in the US, I wonder how much of the bad Police attitude over there is shored-up or even encouraged by Trump's belligerent approach to enforcement? I've been on the fence a bit regarding Trump up to this point. Now I'd like to see the back of him. In the end, it's people in the US coming to the same conclusion that will have any effect on attitudes and the treatment of black people over there. Not some veggie-munching hippies out for a good yell in Westminster.
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
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i get what you say but racism is racism no matter what form it takes or the amount form 1 country to another. it is wrong, however sorry to say it will always be prevalent. whether it be colour or race, it is wrong.
it is no excuse to burn, damage or loot.
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
i get what you say but racism is racism no matter what form it takes or the amount form 1 country to another. it is wrong, however sorry to say it will always be prevalent. whether it be colour or race, it is wrong.
it is no excuse to burn, damage or loot.
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Yes racism will always be there but it’s not just white on black.
China are persecuting blacks and “re-educating” Muslims. I’ve seen first hand racism against my half Iraqi, half English daughter-in-law - in Turkey would you believe?
I’ve seen Diane Abbott suggest Finnish nurses aren’t as good as Caribbean nurses because Finland has very few black people.
Racism comes in all Sorts of guises and is prevalent in every country on the planet I imagine. Institutional racism is a difficult one. Do we say the EU is institutionally racist because the 27 top jobs are all white men and women? I would say yes they are. Others would disagree.
One thing though - I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with any decent person but I’ll never ever kneel for one!
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
i get what you say but racism is racism no matter what form it takes or the amount form 1 country to another. it is wrong, however sorry to say it will always be prevalent. whether it be colour or race, it is wrong.
it is no excuse to burn, damage or loot.
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Yes racism will always be there but it’s not just white on black.
China are persecuting blacks and “re-educating” Muslims. I’ve seen first hand racism against my half Iraqi, half English daughter-in-law - in Turkey would you believe?
I’ve seen Diane Abbott suggest Finnish nurses aren’t as good as Caribbean nurses because Finland has very few black people.
Racism comes in all Sorts of guises and is prevalent in every country on the planet I imagine. Institutional racism is a difficult one. Do we say the EU is institutionally racist because the 27 top jobs are all white men and women? I would say yes they are. Others would disagree.
One thing though - I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with any decent person but I’ll never ever kneel for one!
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posted on 3/6/20
Agreed.
posted on 3/6/20
Who's being hypocritical?
posted on 3/6/20
Completely agree
posted on 3/6/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who's being hypocritical?
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The police.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by CurrentlyIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who's being hypocritical?
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The police.
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I'm no fan of the po po particularly but given the destruction caused after Duggan it's a bit harsh on them.
posted on 3/6/20
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posted on 3/6/20
crowds are not allowed, unless you are ignorant and or dumb
posted on 3/6/20
I'm confused here, were any of the people making the actual decision on crowds in football games at the protest?
Cause if they wernt then I dont know who the hypocrites are...
posted on 3/6/20
What happened to George Floyd was criminal and inhumane.
I just don't get why a bunch of people over in this country feel the need to flaunt the current distancing rules and put the police and everyone they are in contact with at risk just for a bit of 21st century "virtue signalling".
Yes we're all appalled at what's gone on over there. I am also appalled at the idiots over here congregating to say so.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 9 minutes ago
What happened to George Floyd was criminal and inhumane.
I just don't get why a bunch of people over in this country feel the need to flaunt the current distancing rules and put the police and everyone they are in contact with at risk just for a bit of 21st century "virtue signalling".
Yes we're all appalled at what's gone on over there. I am also appalled at the idiots over here congregating to say so.
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Spot on
posted on 3/6/20
I assume the police have been told not arrest the protestors for breaking the rules on distancing.
If they were protesting about something less "virtuous", the police would have a different approach.
posted on 3/6/20
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 10 minutes ago
What happened to George Floyd was criminal and inhumane.
I just don't get why a bunch of people over in this country feel the need to flaunt the current distancing rules and put the police and everyone they are in contact with at risk just for a bit of 21st century "virtue signalling".
Yes we're all appalled at what's gone on over there. I am also appalled at the idiots over here congregating to say so.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its not really virtue signalling though.
The UK, while nowhere near the level of outright aggression and hostility of law enforcement has plenty examples of incidents which have lead to the death of black men (and women) while in their custody which shouldnt have happened.
There is also the fact that, while the looters are wrong and should be dealt with in accordance to the law over the past week there has been numerous incidents where police have well, well, over stepped the mark, some have even been fired as a result of their actions, and I dont doubt more will follow, we do sell gear to the American police forces.
Now personally I believe when you look at these incidents we should have serious questions of our government allowing the sale of this gear to American police forces, I also believe that people should have the right to demonstrate the fact we are doing this.
I cant say I support the protests in the current pandemic background, however I think its not virture signalling as there are genuine grievousness that need to be, and should be aired
posted on 4/6/20
Eh? Has there been a mandate from Admin to dumb down articles or something?
posted on 4/6/20
Nothing says treat us fairy by rioting and looting.
USA is systematically racists, whether you are mexican, black, asian etc ect ect. The police are aggressive because people have guns.
I have no idea why people are protesting in the uk for something that has happened in the US and has nothing to do with our system.
Band Wagon.
posted on 4/6/20
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 3 minutes ago
Nothing says treat us fairy by rioting and looting.
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You're combining the two concepts. Who says rioters and looters are the same people saying treat us fair?
posted on 4/6/20
The protesters turned it into rioting and looting.
posted on 4/6/20
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
posted on 4/6/20
Football with its usual double standards. Orchestrated statements and token gestures condemning racism but happy to allow the Saudis to buy Newcastle United regardless of the country's appalling record on human rights.
Similarly Lewis Hamilton talks of his "anger, sadness and disbelief" but is strangely willing to drive in a Saudi grand prix or any other country where he can line his pockets regardless of human rights abuses.
posted on 4/6/20
"The protesters turned it into rioting and looting."
Wetherby, I think it more a case of trouble makers mixing with the protesters and using the protests for their own means!..
Guns in America!..
American people are brought up with guns, so the Police being brought up the same way are only acting the way they should!..
They're in protective mode, thing is mixing that with Race and Religion or anything else is taking it to far, but the race card in America is one of the biggest killers going!..
Its their way of life and will never be controlled because of guns!..
posted on 4/6/20
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Protests now in many major world cities on all continents. American ambassadors and diplomats being summoned to explain the actions of their government etc. Looks like the whole world is "virtue signalling" then?
posted on 4/6/20
Whilst I’m appalled at what that officer and his colleagues did I think many are using this as an excuse to overthrow governments they didn’t vote in personally and hate. Some are also using it as an excuse to loot.
The US is much different to the UK. Guns and violent crime are much more prevalent but the facts are that the latest figures show that more whites are killed by their police than any other colour.
Gun culture really is the main reason. The police routinely shoot anyone who they think is armed and likely to use their weapon.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/police-shootings-us-death-toll-gun-control-officers-a8777046.html
posted on 4/6/20
comment by Jurgen Klopp (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
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Protests now in many major world cities on all continents. American ambassadors and diplomats being summoned to explain the actions of their government etc. Looks like the whole world is "virtue signalling" then?
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Yes.
China has also joined in. Pointing out to its people that the US is becoming a Police State.
Pressure should certainly be applied to the US as it obviously is not sticking to the letter of its Constitution. That pressure should primarily come from the people of the US via their elected representatives.
I don't see how a gang of protesters in London (a protest that turned violent by the way) is in any way "supporting" a cause in the US. As some bright person spotted earlier somewhere on this forum - how is a "Black Lives Matter" protest with no social distancing going to help black people in UK cities when it's believed that people of BAME descent are more susceptible to Covid 19? It's going to kill the people who they are trying to show solidarity with.
Back in the US, I wonder how much of the bad Police attitude over there is shored-up or even encouraged by Trump's belligerent approach to enforcement? I've been on the fence a bit regarding Trump up to this point. Now I'd like to see the back of him. In the end, it's people in the US coming to the same conclusion that will have any effect on attitudes and the treatment of black people over there. Not some veggie-munching hippies out for a good yell in Westminster.
posted on 4/6/20
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
i get what you say but racism is racism no matter what form it takes or the amount form 1 country to another. it is wrong, however sorry to say it will always be prevalent. whether it be colour or race, it is wrong.
it is no excuse to burn, damage or loot.
posted on 4/6/20
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
i get what you say but racism is racism no matter what form it takes or the amount form 1 country to another. it is wrong, however sorry to say it will always be prevalent. whether it be colour or race, it is wrong.
it is no excuse to burn, damage or loot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes racism will always be there but it’s not just white on black.
China are persecuting blacks and “re-educating” Muslims. I’ve seen first hand racism against my half Iraqi, half English daughter-in-law - in Turkey would you believe?
I’ve seen Diane Abbott suggest Finnish nurses aren’t as good as Caribbean nurses because Finland has very few black people.
Racism comes in all Sorts of guises and is prevalent in every country on the planet I imagine. Institutional racism is a difficult one. Do we say the EU is institutionally racist because the 27 top jobs are all white men and women? I would say yes they are. Others would disagree.
One thing though - I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with any decent person but I’ll never ever kneel for one!
posted on 4/6/20
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
A good friend of mine is a programmer in Manchester. He collaborated with a guy in Microsoft some years ago who needed to visit the UK.
My mate offered for him to stay with him in his home and the chap was hesitant. He explained that he was black. My mate’s response was “and?”
He had him over and the chap couldn’t believe how he could just go to the pub, go to the bar and get served without getting daggers, being ignored etc. It was the first time in his life he’d just felt accepted like anybody else.
This was an intelligent man, white collar worker in a blue chip company in the US. The story always stuck in my mind as it paints an ugly picture of the US people.
Yes, we have racism and racists here in the UK. Yes, some of them are police. The vast majority of our people though are not. They are accepting, tolerant and embracing of other cultures or creeds.
America has its own issues. They aren’t like ours at all.
Protesters ARE currently virtue signalling. They have jumped on some other country’s bandwagon to make themselves feel virtuous. Protesters should focus on home-made issues such as controlling gang membership and knife crime in London.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
i get what you say but racism is racism no matter what form it takes or the amount form 1 country to another. it is wrong, however sorry to say it will always be prevalent. whether it be colour or race, it is wrong.
it is no excuse to burn, damage or loot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes racism will always be there but it’s not just white on black.
China are persecuting blacks and “re-educating” Muslims. I’ve seen first hand racism against my half Iraqi, half English daughter-in-law - in Turkey would you believe?
I’ve seen Diane Abbott suggest Finnish nurses aren’t as good as Caribbean nurses because Finland has very few black people.
Racism comes in all Sorts of guises and is prevalent in every country on the planet I imagine. Institutional racism is a difficult one. Do we say the EU is institutionally racist because the 27 top jobs are all white men and women? I would say yes they are. Others would disagree.
One thing though - I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with any decent person but I’ll never ever kneel for one!
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