Suspect will be fought through the courts.
Such a shame their relationship will end with such animosity.
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Re... (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Suspect will be fought through the courts.
Such a shame their relationship will end with such animosity.
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And Messi doesn't play for a couple of years.
If there's a date in the contract then Messi doesn't have a case legally. His argument is that Barca should honour the clause as a goodwill gesture, they should after everything he's done for them imo but if it goes to court he wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If Messi is adamant on leaving surely Barca would accept a fee of around 50-100m.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
If there's a date in the contract then Messi doesn't have a case legally. His argument is that Barca should honour the clause as a goodwill gesture, they should after everything he's done for them imo but if it goes to court he wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If Messi is adamant on leaving surely Barca would accept a fee of around 50-100m.
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Not necessarily.
The purpose and timing of that date will have some relevance. That date was in June so it is shortly after a season ends and well before the next starts.
In the unprecedented circumstances of this season it could be argued that the 'serving of notice' now, in the off season has the same effect as serving notice in any ordinary off-season (June) and therefore the club are not prejudiced by the timing.
Common sense sides with Messi but the law would side with Barca I reckon.
Not taking the mick but
'The question is based on the limited information we have seen and heard, who do you think is in the right?'
is a premise for a fantastic debate
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Suspect will be fought through the courts.
Such a shame their relationship will end with such animosity.
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Messi has come out and said he accepts the decision and that he and Barca will never face each other in court because he loves the club. He just thinks the chairman is a caant, and he is right.
Barca should be ashamed of themselves.
Force Majeure is the term used in English contracts for Acts of God which would apply here, but it would depend on the actual wording in his contract. I would think that the only way Messi could extend the date from the specified one in June to now would be if the Force Majeure clause stated that it would be extended in the result of delayed matches. I find it very unlikely that anyone would have had the foresight to see the season extended so far and put something in to extend the notice period for Messi to give notice to leave, so in all honesty I think he wont have a leg to stand on.
And if Messi has said he accepts their decision you can bet he's had top lawyers go through the contract and advise him on it. If there was a clause that allowed for the notice to be extended they would have delivered a notice stating what clause t was with the request to leave and Barca would have had no option but to accept it. Well thats how it would work here anyway.
"The release clause is not valid if the player decides to leave at the end of the 2019/20 season". Now Barcelona may argue that the end of the 2019/20 season was technically May 2020.
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Thats ridiculous. The season is not over until the last game is played. I agree with you OP. From the available info it seems they are skrewing him over.
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posted on 4/9/20
Suspect will be fought through the courts.
Such a shame their relationship will end with such animosity.
posted on 4/9/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 4/9/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Re... (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
Suspect will be fought through the courts.
Such a shame their relationship will end with such animosity.
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And Messi doesn't play for a couple of years.
posted on 4/9/20
If there's a date in the contract then Messi doesn't have a case legally. His argument is that Barca should honour the clause as a goodwill gesture, they should after everything he's done for them imo but if it goes to court he wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If Messi is adamant on leaving surely Barca would accept a fee of around 50-100m.
posted on 4/9/20
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
If there's a date in the contract then Messi doesn't have a case legally. His argument is that Barca should honour the clause as a goodwill gesture, they should after everything he's done for them imo but if it goes to court he wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If Messi is adamant on leaving surely Barca would accept a fee of around 50-100m.
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Not necessarily.
The purpose and timing of that date will have some relevance. That date was in June so it is shortly after a season ends and well before the next starts.
In the unprecedented circumstances of this season it could be argued that the 'serving of notice' now, in the off season has the same effect as serving notice in any ordinary off-season (June) and therefore the club are not prejudiced by the timing.
posted on 4/9/20
Common sense sides with Messi but the law would side with Barca I reckon.
posted on 4/9/20
Not taking the mick but
'The question is based on the limited information we have seen and heard, who do you think is in the right?'
is a premise for a fantastic debate
posted on 4/9/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Suspect will be fought through the courts.
Such a shame their relationship will end with such animosity.
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Messi has come out and said he accepts the decision and that he and Barca will never face each other in court because he loves the club. He just thinks the chairman is a caant, and he is right.
posted on 4/9/20
Barca should be ashamed of themselves.
posted on 4/9/20
Force Majeure is the term used in English contracts for Acts of God which would apply here, but it would depend on the actual wording in his contract. I would think that the only way Messi could extend the date from the specified one in June to now would be if the Force Majeure clause stated that it would be extended in the result of delayed matches. I find it very unlikely that anyone would have had the foresight to see the season extended so far and put something in to extend the notice period for Messi to give notice to leave, so in all honesty I think he wont have a leg to stand on.
And if Messi has said he accepts their decision you can bet he's had top lawyers go through the contract and advise him on it. If there was a clause that allowed for the notice to be extended they would have delivered a notice stating what clause t was with the request to leave and Barca would have had no option but to accept it. Well thats how it would work here anyway.
posted on 5/9/20
"The release clause is not valid if the player decides to leave at the end of the 2019/20 season". Now Barcelona may argue that the end of the 2019/20 season was technically May 2020.
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Thats ridiculous. The season is not over until the last game is played. I agree with you OP. From the available info it seems they are skrewing him over.
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