Gwendouzi thinks he's a lot better than he is. is one thing having an ego when you're good, it's another thing having an ego when you think you are but you're not.

Have a little patience jeez. Had Man U taken this approach they would have sacked Fergie before he even got going and then spent the next 30 years lamenting how their club had barely won anything

Arteta isn’t Fergie and we are playing awful football that’s is the problem. Imagine we were playing like Liverpool bit missing seaters then we would have been patient however, this manager hasn’t got a clear idea how we operate looks like we just too negative and timid Spurts looks like Brazil of the 90s and we look like Saudi Arabia.

Fergie had come from Scotland where he had won the league and a european trophy? with the lesser fancied Aberdeen.

Arteta, by comparison, has done some work experience in Manchester before taking a top job.

He's sooo out of his depth.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
Fergie had come from Scotland where he had won the league and a european trophy? with the lesser fancied Aberdeen.

Arteta, by comparison, has done some work experience in Manchester before taking a top job.

He's sooo out of his depth.
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He might prove to be. He did have a better impact than I expected with sorting the mess of our defence out which I didn’t think would happen so fast. But he seems to have stumbled over how to progress the team further from that, and now worryingly our defensive solidity seems to be vanishing as well. He did an interview recently saying he needed 5-6 more players to implement his vision for the team, which is hard to argue with. Emery also failed to imprint his style with the players we have, started well then regressed. I feel we won’t reach a consistent level with the players we have, too many just can’t adapt to the more modern pressing energetic style. Whether Arteta is the man or not, every manager who comes in will want a big clear out, and this will take time. At some point we’re going to have to allow this process to take place, I feel if we sack managers we’re just going to go in a cycle of going back to square one and having to face yet another rebuild

Obviously if Arteta wants proves to be useless we’d have to replace him as you can’t persist with a manager who can’t do the job at all. But we’ve got a big job to rebuild this team, we can’t sack managers as soon as we have a bad run of form and start from scratch again. Arteta has to turn it around as even with what we have we should be doing better, but we’re still 5 points off 4th so there’s chance to challenge up there still

Why is the Arsenal board littered with spaaaastics like the OP?

I don't agree with the OP.
However, what he said today doesn't fill me with confidence.

Arteta: "I think it's first time in the PL that we put 33 crosses. I'm telling you that if we do that more consistently we're going to score more goals. If we put the bodies we had in certain moments in the box, it's maths, pure maths & it will happen"

In some sense that is true, on the whole we don’t put enough people in the box, ask enough questions of defender, or create dangerous situations enough. If you play more in the opposition box you’re going to create more opportunities, even if it’s getting a penalty or getting bit of luck from a panicked defensive clearance.

Obviously you cant just solely expect to score more from crossing into the box to forwards who aren’t good in the air, there needs to be more options. But we can’t expect to score when we’re horseshoeing round the box, we have to be more aggressive/direct when we attack to put opposition under remote pressure

comment by We got our Arsenal back (U10012)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I don't agree with the OP.
However, what he said today doesn't fill me with confidence.

Arteta: "I think it's first time in the PL that we put 33 crosses. I'm telling you that if we do that more consistently we're going to score more goals. If we put the bodies we had in certain moments in the box, it's maths, pure maths & it will happen"
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What is the point of all these crosses. We have no one with heading capability and no one with the capability to make runs into the box

But that the thing, we don't have the forwards or midfields to play such games. 33 crosses and only 3 of them reached one of our player.
I could understand it if we still had Giroud or someone like Zlatan or Ronaldo but we don't. None of them are good in the air. Plus, our build up is so slow that each crosses is likely to be meet by the opposition CBs who will be 4 or 5 inches taller.
The only way for this to work would be for our CBs (Luiz, Gabi) to also move into the opposition box.
And just the thought of that and any potential counter attack that could result of, gives me nightmare.

Yeah it didn’t work, and as i said we don’t have good headers of the ball, but it can be practiced and thought out more than just banging balls into the box. Also I was saying as a broader point, we do need to somehow get more players in the box, and heap pressure on defences somehow. This could be crosses, dribbles into the box, quick penetrative passing etc. All we’ve done recently is slowly pass it round and wait for defenders to get organised. We don’t have ideal players, but Arteta is going to have to figure out something with them that involves more attacking pressure

comment by We got our Arsenal back (U10012)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I don't agree with the OP.
However, what he said today doesn't fill me with confidence.

Arteta: "I think it's first time in the PL that we put 33 crosses. I'm telling you that if we do that more consistently we're going to score more goals. If we put the bodies we had in certain moments in the box, it's maths, pure maths & it will happen"
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Oh my word! Cant believe he said that. At the height of our Wenger years, even then...when things were going very well, we were not known for our wing play. To claim that to be the way to go makes me believe he well and truly does NOT know what he is doing. Auba is shyyyte in the air. Lacazette is marginally better. Out of those 33 crosses, I would love to know how many were whipped in with venom to cause the defence any panic.

basically to sum it up:
1) Our crossing is usually shockingly bad - nothing worth attacking and most cant beat the first man.
2) we have no players in our front 6 who have any consistent aerial threat
3) To focus on wing play going forward, would be the stupidest thing Arteta can do right now with the personnel he has.

comment by We got our Arsenal back (U10012)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
I don't agree with the OP.
However, what he said today doesn't fill me with confidence.

Arteta: "I think it's first time in the PL that we put 33 crosses. I'm telling you that if we do that more consistently we're going to score more goals. If we put the bodies we had in certain moments in the box, it's maths, pure maths & it will happen"
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Arteta went on to say:
"And if all the impatient Gunner fans will stop complaining, then Santa Claus will be good to you at Christmas".

Here's my thinking on Arteta..

He is an intelligent guy who thinks deeply about tactical ideas and probably has a lot of specific technicalities he works on in training. He is smart, focused, driven and all that stuff and he has an idea of what he wants to achieve with the team. He is probably a fantastic coach. He also would probably be a great head coach with a squad of players who could execute his plans, whether by being excellent players or just by being brilliant at carrying out instructions.

What he isn't at this moment is a manager, which means someone who has to deal with all the club politics and dressing room BS, as well as be involved in the non-playing side of the game. He may think that's what he is, but clearly it's not working out for him right now.

And the key thing, and this is because of his lack of experience, is that he doesn't yet know how to handle a crisis, and get better performances out of players who can't execute whatever idea of perfection he might have in his head. Great managers and coaches can get greatness out of lesser players, whether that be by modifying their methods, setting up the team a certain way, or just by soft skills like motivating and inspiring. Arteta doesn't seem to have that ability yet either.

He could end up being a very good coach but Arsenal might have been too much of a sh*t show for a first job basically, but I doubt anyone thought this season would start as badly as it has for him.

He might be overthinking strategies

He should just say to the team

THIS BALL
THAT GOAL
STICK BALL IN GOAL

comment by Substandard Arsenal (U22503)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
He might be overthinking strategies

He should just say to the team

THIS BALL
THAT GOAL
STICK BALL IN GOAL
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Basically yes.