Happy New Year to you Warwick!

Here we go 🥱....Check the scores please.

Man U-A Villa 3
Spurs-Leeds 3
C Palace-Sheff U 7
Brighton-Wolves 3
WBA-Arsenal 3
Newcastle-City 14
Chelsea-Man C 4

37 pts

12 points, 😳
Really 🤦‍♂️😂😂

comment by dublin fox optimistically pessimistic, (now a Cambridge fox)(still can not spell fox) (U1131)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
12 points, 😳
Really 🤦‍♂️😂😂
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Well you can have mine then.

Because I am insanely competitive and try to find other things to do besides work as best I can at the moment, I tot up everyone's scores as well, to see how (badly) I am doing (especially these last few rounds).

I had you down as 30 as well Downsouf...

ROUND 17
Friday 1st January
Everton 1 West Ham 0 = 0
Manchester Utd 1 Aston Villa 0 = 2

Saturday 2nd January
Tottenham 2 Leeds 1 = 1
Crystal Palace 2 Sheffield Utd 0 = 7
Brighton 1 Wolves 1 = 1
WBA 1 Arsenal 2 = 1

Sunday 3rd January
Burnley 2 Fulham 1 = N/A
Newcastle 1 City 2 = 14
Chelsea 1 Manchester City 2 = 4

Monday 4th January
Southampton 0 Liverpool 1 = 0

OWF will probably expand on it as well, as necessary (he is the co-ordinator after all) but for what it's worth, those are my independent calcs.

Dublin - we've all been there... you'll get 77 this time round with pure guesswork for FA Cup R3!

Afternoon Downsouf. Young Warwick has taken the words out of my mouth (there's unusual) and has saved me the trouble of copying out your predictions and respective scores!
It looks like you have scored 3 points for a correct result, irrespective of the actual score when in fact you only score 1 for the correct result with 3 for each teams correct score, so the maximum available for a correct prediction in every respect is 7.
I have wondered about the merits of awarding 3 points for a correct result, retaining the 3 points for each side's correct score so that the maximum for any game is 9 points, which is something we can decide on for next season. Over the not so festive season I did have a look to see how that would have affected this season's scores. It actually made things a lot closer, as follows:
1 True Blue 601
2 Downsouf 597
3 Bowstring 592
4 MITLBC 536
5 Young Warwick 530
6=Appleton 525
6=Old Warwick 525
8 Nuneaton 510
9 Dublin 489
10 Dungeon Master 476
11 Foxello 460
12 Lone Groover 455
13 Stroud 132
(Up to and including Round 14).

Commiserations Dubs on your 12 but I should point out that the worst score this season is a less than magnificent 7, amassed by me!

comment by YoungWarwickFox (now in Reading) (U22486)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Because I am insanely competitive and try to find other things to do besides work as best I can at the moment, I tot up everyone's scores as well, to see how (badly) I am doing (especially these last few rounds).

I had you down as 30 as well Downsouf...

ROUND 17
Friday 1st January
Everton 1 West Ham 0 = 0
Manchester Utd 1 Aston Villa 0 = 2

Saturday 2nd January
Tottenham 2 Leeds 1 = 1
Crystal Palace 2 Sheffield Utd 0 = 7
Brighton 1 Wolves 1 = 1
WBA 1 Arsenal 2 = 1

Sunday 3rd January
Burnley 2 Fulham 1 = N/A
Newcastle 1 City 2 = 14
Chelsea 1 Manchester City 2 = 4

Monday 4th January
Southampton 0 Liverpool 1 = 0

OWF will probably expand on it as well, as necessary (he is the co-ordinator after all) but for what it's worth, those are my independent calcs.

Dublin - we've all been there... you'll get 77 this time round with pure guesswork for FA Cup R3!

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So isn’t it 3 points for a win, regardless of the score line? 🤷‍♂️

comment by downsouf (U4095)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by YoungWarwickFox (now in Reading) (U22486)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Because I am insanely competitive and try to find other things to do besides work as best I can at the moment, I tot up everyone's scores as well, to see how (badly) I am doing (especially these last few rounds).

I had you down as 30 as well Downsouf...

ROUND 17
Friday 1st January
Everton 1 West Ham 0 = 0
Manchester Utd 1 Aston Villa 0 = 2

Saturday 2nd January
Tottenham 2 Leeds 1 = 1
Crystal Palace 2 Sheffield Utd 0 = 7
Brighton 1 Wolves 1 = 1
WBA 1 Arsenal 2 = 1

Sunday 3rd January
Burnley 2 Fulham 1 = N/A
Newcastle 1 City 2 = 14
Chelsea 1 Manchester City 2 = 4

Monday 4th January
Southampton 0 Liverpool 1 = 0

OWF will probably expand on it as well, as necessary (he is the co-ordinator after all) but for what it's worth, those are my independent calcs.

Dublin - we've all been there... you'll get 77 this time round with pure guesswork for FA Cup R3!

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So isn’t it 3 points for a win, regardless of the score line? 🤷‍♂️
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No Downsouf, afraid not. Just the 1, although this increases to 2 if the score margin is correct, ie actual score 2-1, predicted score 1-0 or 3-2 etc.

Id be interested to get everyone's views re changing it to 3 for the result next season, as outlined above though.

I think it's easier to get the result prediction right than the goals scored prediction so really goals scored ( being correct ) should get higher scores as they seem to now. .

comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think it's easier to get the result prediction right than the goals scored prediction so really goals scored ( being correct ) should get higher scores as they seem to now. .


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Thanks TB.

but does this not mean that if you get result right but score wrong its 1 point. but if you get result wrong and say the losing team lose 6-1 and you predict 1 then you get 3 points?

comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
but does this not mean that if you get result right but score wrong its 1 point. but if you get result wrong and say the losing team lose 6-1 and you predict 1 then you get 3 points?
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That's exactly right MITLBC. It's one of the anomalies that concerns me slightly.

comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago
but does this not mean that if you get result right but score wrong its 1 point. but if you get result wrong and say the losing team lose 6-1 and you predict 1 then you get 3 points?
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I raised this with OWF about 2 weeks after I started, as I noticed I could get a really tough score draw correct (at least the result correct, which was an unlikely outcome given the teams) and only get 1 point. I think I predicted a 2-2 and it ended up 1-1, but because someone predicted 1-4 or something, they got more points than I did, despite being way off target... That to me seemed unfair or in some way unsustainable.

Classic case in point is predicting Southampton to win last night (say 2-1, although they won 1-0), but anyone predicting Liverpool to win 2-1, would get 3 points for Southampton's goal, whilst predicting the correct result last night would only get 2 points.

To make it fairer, although I take the point that predicting actual scores is tough enough, getting the correct "result" should score 3 points in and of itself. I think retaining 3 points for a correct score for a given team should also be retained, as it allows for good scoring.

If I am right, then the matrix for scoring would be as follows:

0 points if you get an incorrect result and do not predict correct scores

3 for correct result, plus bonus of 1 point (4 in total) if correct margin of victory (although this does not give benefit for predicting draws correctly) so this may need to be considered further, as score draws were and are tricky to get right - just ask the Football Pools Panel...

6 points for correct result and 1 team's correct score (eg: predicting 2-0 and actually winning 2-1).

9 points - full correct score/result.

Double bubble for City...

The thing that needs to be considered is how to ensure correctly predicting draws gets the same benefit as scoring goals and/or dealing with the "margin of victory" point, which only benefits a winning scoreline...

Food for thought!

The thing is YWF , would that make me top?

comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 35 minutes ago
The thing is YWF , would that make me top?
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Well TB, having spent another 90 minutes recalculating the remainder of the scores and adding appropriate bonuses, were we to have had 3 points for the result plus the 3 for each sides score AND the extra point for margin of victory, the table would look like this:

1 True Blue 860
2 Bowstring 819
3 Downsouf 766
4 Young Warwick Fox 736
5 MITLBC 732
6 Nuneaton Fox 695
7 Old Warwick Fox 691
8 Appleton 688
9 Dublin Fox 638
10 Foxello 614
11 Dungeon Master 609
12 Lone Groover 573
13 Stroud Fox 183

But we can't change the rules mid season so it's as you were. 😊

Food for thought for next season though.

Comment deleted by Article Creator

Any chance of anyone putting any predictions on here?
😂

comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 35 minutes ago
The thing is YWF , would that make me top?
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Well TB, having spent another 90 minutes recalculating the remainder of the scores and adding appropriate bonuses, were we to have had 3 points for the result plus the 3 for each sides score AND the extra point for margin of victory, the table would look like this:

1 True Blue 860
2 Bowstring 819
3 Downsouf 766
4 Young Warwick Fox 736
5 MITLBC 732
6 Nuneaton Fox 695
7 Old Warwick Fox 691
8 Appleton 688
9 Dublin Fox 638
10 Foxello 614
11 Dungeon Master 609
12 Lone Groover 573
13 Stroud Fox 183

But we can't change the rules mid season so it's as you were. 😊

Food for thought for next season though.
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Boy, you do have too much time on your hands!

Look at all the trouble I’ve caused.

😉

Who would be top of table if you got 2 extra points for correctly predicting away wins

comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 7 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 35 minutes ago
The thing is YWF , would that make me top?
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Well TB, having spent another 90 minutes recalculating the remainder of the scores and adding appropriate bonuses, were we to have had 3 points for the result plus the 3 for each sides score AND the extra point for margin of victory, the table would look like this:

1 True Blue 860
2 Bowstring 819
3 Downsouf 766
4 Young Warwick Fox 736
5 MITLBC 732
6 Nuneaton Fox 695
7 Old Warwick Fox 691
8 Appleton 688
9 Dublin Fox 638
10 Foxello 614
11 Dungeon Master 609
12 Lone Groover 573
13 Stroud Fox 183

But we can't change the rules mid season so it's as you were. 😊

Food for thought for next season though.
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Boy, you do have too much time on your hands!
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How true! Still, nothing is too much trouble to ensure the benefits to our contributors!
😂

comment by downsouf (U4095)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
Look at all the trouble I’ve caused.

😉
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😂😂😂

comment by Man in the Long Black Coat (U2592)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Who would be top of table if you got 2 extra points for correctly predicting away wins
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Sod it! Never thought of that!
😂😂

Right then. After 21 comments (excluding my own deleted one) it's time for some predictions.

Borehamwood 0 v 4 Millwall
Everton 3 v 1 Rotherham
Chorley 1 v 2 Derby
Blackpool 2 v 1 West Bromwich
Bristol Rovers 2 v 1 Sheffield Utd
Burnley 0 v 2 MK Dons
QPR 2 v 3 Fulham
Stoke 0 v 2 Leicester
Arsenal 2 v 1 Newcastle
Southampton 5 v 0 Shrewsbury

My next question is why you have not included Marine v Tottenham in your list?? Can we add it in???

It looks like Shrewsbury v Southampton is going to be called off anyway...

comment by YoungWarwickFox (now in Reading) (U22486)
posted 0 seconds ago
My next question is why you have not included Marine v Tottenham in your list?? Can we add it in???

It looks like Shrewsbury v Southampton is going to be called off anyway...



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Or Southampton v Shrewsbury... whatever