comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right;

You can’t conjure that little with two of the five best attacking fullbacks in the world and the two best wide forwards over the last 24 months. You just can’t.
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and yet...

jurgen klopp, miracle maker.

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Plenty of Mancs biting on a Manc wum article....
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Not a wum, Term, a genuine question based on what we saw today compared with what we were led to believe would happen. Some interesting answers
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I tried to be honest

Rosso

Of course you can. A team isn’t just the fullbacks and forwards, if your spine is completely disjointed through injury and having to play players in completely different roles then it’s highly likely you’re gonna struggle to play at a high standard. They’re also out of form, I doubt this is permanent.

comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
They played agaist two cm as cb and couldnt score as they parked the bus for the first 60 mins
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If you knew anything about your own clubs history, that's just what Liverpool did in Europe for years, took the sting out the game, then turned the screw.

Klopp out-thought and out-fought by The PE Teacher
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Yet you couldnt beat a team with no cbs
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The champions couldn't beat a team managed by a PE teacher at home
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We had no centre backs though. So your logic is moronic.

Just be honest. Utd are ordinary, pool are struggling with injuries. It is what is
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Yet you the champions couldn't muster more shots on target or beat a team that's ordinary at home.
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Correct as we are missing players through injury.. keep up. Utd are so ordinary you cant beat an injury hit team that drew with brighton and fulham
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37 > 33

1 > 3

20 > 19

I wonder who's ordinary?

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Plenty of Mancs biting on a Manc wum article....
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Not a wum, Term, a genuine question based on what we saw today compared with what we were led to believe would happen. Some interesting answers
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I tried to be honest
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Retaining the title's a baaastard of a job. That's why hardly anyone ever does it.

comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
They played agaist two cm as cb and couldnt score as they parked the bus for the first 60 mins
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If you knew anything about your own clubs history, that's just what Liverpool did in Europe for years, took the sting out the game, then turned the screw.

Klopp out-thought and out-fought by The PE Teacher
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you couldnt beat a team with no cbs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The champions couldn't beat a team managed by a PE teacher at home
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had no centre backs though. So your logic is moronic.

Just be honest. Utd are ordinary, pool are struggling with injuries. It is what is
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you the champions couldn't muster more shots on target or beat a team that's ordinary at home.
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Correct as we are missing players through injury.. keep up. Utd are so ordinary you cant beat an injury hit team that drew with brighton and fulham
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An injury hit team that still had five of the very best players in the world in their positions on the pitch.

Come off it. Player for player you had a stronger side than us out there today.

Someone stole the inhalers from Anfield. No peds, no party.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 minutes ago
We did have a full strength squad and Liverpool were missing their 2 best CBs and their 2 best CMs out of position. I’m pretty sure if/when they can get a full strength squad back and able to play anywhere near their best they’ll be a very different opponent.
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They had those defenders when they were hammered against Villa

comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
They played agaist two cm as cb and couldnt score as they parked the bus for the first 60 mins
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If you knew anything about your own clubs history, that's just what Liverpool did in Europe for years, took the sting out the game, then turned the screw.

Klopp out-thought and out-fought by The PE Teacher
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you couldnt beat a team with no cbs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The champions couldn't beat a team managed by a PE teacher at home
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We had no centre backs though. So your logic is moronic.

Just be honest. Utd are ordinary, pool are struggling with injuries. It is what is
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you the champions couldn't muster more shots on target or beat a team that's ordinary at home.
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Correct as we are missing players through injury.. keep up. Utd are so ordinary you cant beat an injury hit team that drew with brighton and fulham
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37 > 33

1 > 3

20 > 19

I wonder who's ordinary?
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Oh dear we have a few teens onboard

37 > 33

1 > 3

20 > 19

I wonder who's ordinary?

That should be

37 > 34

1 > 4(as per live table)

20 > 19

Doire

I’m pretty sure Gomez and Matip combined is their 2nd choice CB and both were missing. Yes they had 9 of their best players starting but 2 were played out of position which makes a huge difference. If United had 2 key players having to play different roles that they rarely play I wouldn’t be expecting too much from them.

I find it strange how quickly fans seem to be forgetting how strong this Liverpool side can be when fully fit and in form.

comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you also have to be effective (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
They played agaist two cm as cb and couldnt score as they parked the bus for the first 60 mins
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If you knew anything about your own clubs history, that's just what Liverpool did in Europe for years, took the sting out the game, then turned the screw.

Klopp out-thought and out-fought by The PE Teacher
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you couldnt beat a team with no cbs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The champions couldn't beat a team managed by a PE teacher at home
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had no centre backs though. So your logic is moronic.

Just be honest. Utd are ordinary, pool are struggling with injuries. It is what is
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you the champions couldn't muster more shots on target or beat a team that's ordinary at home.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Correct as we are missing players through injury.. keep up. Utd are so ordinary you cant beat an injury hit team that drew with brighton and fulham
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An injury hit team that still had five of the very best players in the world in their positions on the pitch.

Come off it. Player for player you had a stronger side than us out there today.
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Moronic statement. Choose another sport son

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 15 seconds ago
37 > 33

1 > 3

20 > 19

I wonder who's ordinary?

That should be

37 > 34

1 > 4(as per live table)

20 > 19
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And even with all the corrections the chumpions are bottom in each area.

😁

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Rosso

Of course you can. A team isn’t just the fullbacks and forwards, if your spine is completely disjointed through injury and having to play players in completely different roles then it’s highly likely you’re gonna struggle to play at a high standard. They’re also out of form, I doubt this is permanent.
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It’d be an excuse if we’d seen a shambolic defensive performance from them today, but they were very solid at the back.

Their front seven (including the fullbacks) was almost full strength, and barring Thiago and the occasional moment from Shaqiri they looked very short of ideas.

comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you also have to be effective (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
They played agaist two cm as cb and couldnt score as they parked the bus for the first 60 mins
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you knew anything about your own clubs history, that's just what Liverpool did in Europe for years, took the sting out the game, then turned the screw.

Klopp out-thought and out-fought by The PE Teacher
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you couldnt beat a team with no cbs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The champions couldn't beat a team managed by a PE teacher at home
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had no centre backs though. So your logic is moronic.

Just be honest. Utd are ordinary, pool are struggling with injuries. It is what is
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet you the champions couldn't muster more shots on target or beat a team that's ordinary at home.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Correct as we are missing players through injury.. keep up. Utd are so ordinary you cant beat an injury hit team that drew with brighton and fulham
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An injury hit team that still had five of the very best players in the world in their positions on the pitch.

Come off it. Player for player you had a stronger side than us out there today.
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Moronic statement. Choose another sport son
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Deflect deflect deflect 😂😂

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)

I find it strange how quickly fans seem to be forgetting how strong this Liverpool side can be when fully fit and in form.
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tbf them last being "in form" is c. 12 months ago now, they were wobbling before lockdown, underwhelming afterwards (written off as the players not caring), and patchy this season too.

comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you also have to be effective (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Rosso

Of course you can. A team isn’t just the fullbacks and forwards, if your spine is completely disjointed through injury and having to play players in completely different roles then it’s highly likely you’re gonna struggle to play at a high standard. They’re also out of form, I doubt this is permanent.
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It’d be an excuse if we’d seen a shambolic defensive performance from them today, but they were very solid at the back.

Their front seven (including the fullbacks) was almost full strength, and barring Thiago and the occasional moment from Shaqiri they looked very short of ideas.
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Utd parked the bus for most of the game. You should have attacked us and exposed our cb pairing. They had nothing to do for most of the game

Rosso

Yes they were good because they’re both very good players who would have been even better had they played in midfield and they had 2 of their best 3 CBs available.

Not sure I have the balls for this sort of article at this stage of the season OP.

Clearly they’re not quite as good as some of their fans might believe though. Not at the moment, anyway.

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
Plenty of Mancs biting on a Manc wum article....
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Not a wum, Term, a genuine question based on what we saw today compared with what we were led to believe would happen. Some interesting answers
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Looks like a fishing expedition to me...... Not exactly a thought provoking article, is it?!

Personally I didn’t predict anything for today because I genuinely had no idea what was going to happen. I was hoping that playing a United team who were top would spark us into life, but it didn’t. We’re just in a massive rut, and struggling to get out of it. I think the players are overcompensating for our defensive problems, not attacking with the same confidence because they’re afraid of leaving the defence exposed. I don’t think it’s a conscious decision, just something that’s affecting all the players. I’ve said it loads of times, but we were always going to hit a wall at some stage after the levels we’ve been playing at for the last few years. It just unfortunate for us that events have conspired to multiply the problem.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Doire

I’m pretty sure Gomez and Matip combined is their 2nd choice CB and both were missing. Yes they had 9 of their best players starting but 2 were played out of position which makes a huge difference. If United had 2 key players having to play different roles that they rarely play I wouldn’t be expecting too much from them.

I find it strange how quickly fans seem to be forgetting how strong this Liverpool side can be when fully fit and in form.
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One key player. Henderson looks more useful at the back than he is in midfield.

That midfield still had Wijnaldum and Thiago in there today, and it isn’t usually the job of the Liverpool midfield to create anyway.

I still don’t see how with Robertson, TAA, Mane, Salah and Thiago on the pitch you manage to create so few decent chances.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 15 seconds ago
Doire

I’m pretty sure Gomez and Matip combined is their 2nd choice CB and both were missing. Yes they had 9 of their best players starting but 2 were played out of position which makes a huge difference. If United had 2 key players having to play different roles that they rarely play I wouldn’t be expecting too much from them.

I find it strange how quickly fans seem to be forgetting how strong this Liverpool side can be when fully fit and in form.
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Thing is it's very rare to have a fully fit squad to chose from.

Liverpool started the season with first team 3 cbs to chose from and 2 of those are sicknotes(just look at Matip and Gomez injury records prior to this season).

With that in mind it's no ones fault but Liverpool's to start the season with those 3 to chose from.They deserve all what they are getting atm and shouldn't be afforded any excuses.

Rogue

We didn’t park the bus, we were cautious because this is a huge game. With hindsight it’s easy to say we should have done better but pretty much most United fans including myself said we’d be delighted with a point and I still am even though we did have chances to win today.

Liverpool arent conceding many because teams are sitting back against us and thats fine. Our cbs arent overly exposed but not having vvd gomez in there effects the whole team.

comment by Rouge (U19907)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you also have to be effective (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Rosso

Of course you can. A team isn’t just the fullbacks and forwards, if your spine is completely disjointed through injury and having to play players in completely different roles then it’s highly likely you’re gonna struggle to play at a high standard. They’re also out of form, I doubt this is permanent.
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It’d be an excuse if we’d seen a shambolic defensive performance from them today, but they were very solid at the back.

Their front seven (including the fullbacks) was almost full strength, and barring Thiago and the occasional moment from Shaqiri they looked very short of ideas.
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Utd parked the bus for most of the game. You should have attacked us and exposed our cb pairing. They had nothing to do for most of the game
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Our plan was pretty clear. Klopp, despite the superior talent at his disposal, didn’t have any answer to it.