His injury record in the last couple of years is pretty awful. Would probably suit you.
He’s a good player and got great potential, but what’s the point if he’s not going to get on the pitch. 50 50 with this on, if it’s even true.
comment by Lubo - We're Home! (U14008)
posted 18 seconds ago
His injury record in the last couple of years is pretty awful. Would probably suit you.
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Yeah I thought that was the case. I wonder if we plan on signing Kabak too?
Van Dijk, Gomez, Matip, Konate, Kabak.
If that was the case then I'd be fine but I suspect either Matip will be sold or we pass on Kabak. I'd probably prefer Kabak as he seems to be able to play more than two game on the spin...
Matips injury replacement, hopefully van dijk doesn't come back and do his other knee
His injury record is atrocious
Another defensive crock. Just what you need.
So our masterplan is to replace Matip with Matip?
Looks like it's mainly muscle injuries (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ibrahima-konate/verletzungen/spieler/357119)
Whilst it doesn't look great, muscle injuries at a young age don't necessarily mean long term problems. Gerrard had a few muscle injuries in the early days.
Having 3 young CB in Kabak, Gomez and Konate to compete for a place next to VVD - sounds pretty good to me,
Sounds good to me. I suspect matip will be gone u cant rely on him, so hopefully for next season:
Gomez
VVD
Kabak
Konate
B Davis
N Philip's
With one of Fabinho or Henderson who cam also.fill.in if we get the mother of all CB injuries again...highly unlikely btw.
6 CBs should be enough...fingers crossef
Yeah, I was just about to say that Gerrard had a lot of muscle issues what was ascribed to growing pains playing through those will strain the muscles. At 21 that’s not uncommon. 3 years ago he played 20+ games in the bundesliga.
Bring him in.
Quality player but injury prone
He’s played 17 league games since the start of last 2 seasons. Surely a huge risk at 40 million in current times.
Kabak looks decent
Only thing id say is hopefully this doesnt spell the end for kabak. After a slightly iffy(understandbly) start he has put in some real solid displays. For a guy who is only 20 he looks like he has the potential to be a really good player.
Given the current economic climate id be amazed if we spent close to 60m on 2 cbs. Surely it will be 1 or the other.
We will see.
If it is true and kabak gets the hump we will be at nothing i nthe CL with fabinho forced back to CB lol.
hopefully kabak knows he is in as well. Has done well at LCB which is great flexibility.
I suspect it will probably mean that Matip is on his way out either in the summer or going into next season. After this season, Klopp may want to have 5 quality CB's (VVD, Konate, Gomez, Kabak and Matip) in the squad until he knows one can go. I'd expect Phillips and Davies to leave.
for the record:
the boy is 21
this is from transfermarkt - the easy source but not the most accurate.
An ankle injury.
A full season out with some sort of serious injury
nothing else really of note
the fact is the serious injury was related to a hip/muscule injury in that region and with ANY mention of hip the medical staff need to be 100% crystal clear its permenanty fixed.
With footballers, i run a mile when i hear hip injury.
20/21 Ankle Injury Dec 17, 2020 Feb 4, 2021 49 days 9RB Leipzig
20/21 Fitness Oct 6, 2020 Oct 15, 2020 9 days -
20/21 Torn Muscle Fibre Jul 1, 2020 Oct 5, 2020 96 days 6RB Leipzig
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre May 22, 2020 Jun 5, 2020 14 days 3RB Leipzig
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre Oct 3, 2019 May 15, 2020 225 days 27RB Leipzig
18/19 Knock May 18, 2019 May 18, 2019 0 days 1RB Leipzig
17/18 Minor Knock Dec 18, 2017 Dec 23, 2017 5 days -
17/18 Thigh Problems Nov 9, 2017 Nov 16, 2017 7 days
I'm sure the club are aware of his injury records, however, the medical and sports science staff may be capable of saying that they can provide a way that can help with injury prevention as well as strength and conditioning training to help improve his physical condition to try and avoid them type of muscle injuries as best they can.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 34 minutes ago
I'm sure the club are aware of his injury records, however, the medical and sports science staff may be capable of saying that they can provide a way that can help with injury prevention as well as strength and conditioning training to help improve his physical condition to try and avoid them type of muscle injuries as best they can.
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absolutely but we have to be 100% sure as anything related to hip in a hard running sport is not a reciepe you want.
A little thigh strain or an ankle injury are no big deal. stuff happens in a contact spourt.
We have to recall that VVD got a bad ankly injury for southampton but didn't stop him winning cl and prem just cos he was assualted by an angry T-Rex doesn't mean he's injury prone.
the thing about it is that with the covid impact all we can really say is the guy wasn't right after covid and was out until the start of this season and then played.
When is the german winter break as well? that might make that little ankle injury look alot worse than it was as well.
the fact is the serious injury was related to a hip/muscule injury in that region and with ANY mention of hip the medical staff need to be 100% crystal clear its permenanty fixed.
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I did see online that he had surgery on his hip last summer and has so far had no reoccurrence of anything relating to it, so hopefully the issue is already fixed.
keep naby n matip company ?
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 17 hours, 11 minutes ago
the fact is the serious injury was related to a hip/muscule injury in that region and with ANY mention of hip the medical staff need to be 100% crystal clear its permenanty fixed.
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I did see online that he had surgery on his hip last summer and has so far had no reoccurrence of anything relating to it, so hopefully the issue is already fixed.
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roy keane might have said the same.
so would sturrdige for example.
the worry is that the injury leads to others like groin or hamsting instability.
the medical staff needs a long hard look at it, thats all.
Deems weird to buy an injury prone cb to compete with other injury prone cbs
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posted on 29/3/21
His injury record in the last couple of years is pretty awful. Would probably suit you.
posted on 29/3/21
He’s a good player and got great potential, but what’s the point if he’s not going to get on the pitch. 50 50 with this on, if it’s even true.
posted on 29/3/21
comment by Lubo - We're Home! (U14008)
posted 18 seconds ago
His injury record in the last couple of years is pretty awful. Would probably suit you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I thought that was the case. I wonder if we plan on signing Kabak too?
Van Dijk, Gomez, Matip, Konate, Kabak.
If that was the case then I'd be fine but I suspect either Matip will be sold or we pass on Kabak. I'd probably prefer Kabak as he seems to be able to play more than two game on the spin...
posted on 29/3/21
Matips injury replacement, hopefully van dijk doesn't come back and do his other knee
posted on 29/3/21
His injury record is atrocious
posted on 29/3/21
Another defensive crock. Just what you need.
posted on 29/3/21
So our masterplan is to replace Matip with Matip?
posted on 29/3/21
Looks like it's mainly muscle injuries (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ibrahima-konate/verletzungen/spieler/357119)
Whilst it doesn't look great, muscle injuries at a young age don't necessarily mean long term problems. Gerrard had a few muscle injuries in the early days.
Having 3 young CB in Kabak, Gomez and Konate to compete for a place next to VVD - sounds pretty good to me,
posted on 29/3/21
Sounds good to me. I suspect matip will be gone u cant rely on him, so hopefully for next season:
Gomez
VVD
Kabak
Konate
B Davis
N Philip's
With one of Fabinho or Henderson who cam also.fill.in if we get the mother of all CB injuries again...highly unlikely btw.
6 CBs should be enough...fingers crossef
posted on 29/3/21
Yeah, I was just about to say that Gerrard had a lot of muscle issues what was ascribed to growing pains playing through those will strain the muscles. At 21 that’s not uncommon. 3 years ago he played 20+ games in the bundesliga.
Bring him in.
posted on 29/3/21
Quality player but injury prone
posted on 29/3/21
He’s played 17 league games since the start of last 2 seasons. Surely a huge risk at 40 million in current times.
Kabak looks decent
posted on 29/3/21
*start of last season
posted on 29/3/21
Only thing id say is hopefully this doesnt spell the end for kabak. After a slightly iffy(understandbly) start he has put in some real solid displays. For a guy who is only 20 he looks like he has the potential to be a really good player.
Given the current economic climate id be amazed if we spent close to 60m on 2 cbs. Surely it will be 1 or the other.
posted on 29/3/21
We will see.
If it is true and kabak gets the hump we will be at nothing i nthe CL with fabinho forced back to CB lol.
hopefully kabak knows he is in as well. Has done well at LCB which is great flexibility.
posted on 29/3/21
I suspect it will probably mean that Matip is on his way out either in the summer or going into next season. After this season, Klopp may want to have 5 quality CB's (VVD, Konate, Gomez, Kabak and Matip) in the squad until he knows one can go. I'd expect Phillips and Davies to leave.
posted on 29/3/21
for the record:
the boy is 21
this is from transfermarkt - the easy source but not the most accurate.
An ankle injury.
A full season out with some sort of serious injury
nothing else really of note
the fact is the serious injury was related to a hip/muscule injury in that region and with ANY mention of hip the medical staff need to be 100% crystal clear its permenanty fixed.
With footballers, i run a mile when i hear hip injury.
20/21 Ankle Injury Dec 17, 2020 Feb 4, 2021 49 days 9RB Leipzig
20/21 Fitness Oct 6, 2020 Oct 15, 2020 9 days -
20/21 Torn Muscle Fibre Jul 1, 2020 Oct 5, 2020 96 days 6RB Leipzig
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre May 22, 2020 Jun 5, 2020 14 days 3RB Leipzig
19/20 Torn Muscle Fibre Oct 3, 2019 May 15, 2020 225 days 27RB Leipzig
18/19 Knock May 18, 2019 May 18, 2019 0 days 1RB Leipzig
17/18 Minor Knock Dec 18, 2017 Dec 23, 2017 5 days -
17/18 Thigh Problems Nov 9, 2017 Nov 16, 2017 7 days
posted on 29/3/21
I'm sure the club are aware of his injury records, however, the medical and sports science staff may be capable of saying that they can provide a way that can help with injury prevention as well as strength and conditioning training to help improve his physical condition to try and avoid them type of muscle injuries as best they can.
posted on 29/3/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 34 minutes ago
I'm sure the club are aware of his injury records, however, the medical and sports science staff may be capable of saying that they can provide a way that can help with injury prevention as well as strength and conditioning training to help improve his physical condition to try and avoid them type of muscle injuries as best they can.
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absolutely but we have to be 100% sure as anything related to hip in a hard running sport is not a reciepe you want.
A little thigh strain or an ankle injury are no big deal. stuff happens in a contact spourt.
We have to recall that VVD got a bad ankly injury for southampton but didn't stop him winning cl and prem just cos he was assualted by an angry T-Rex doesn't mean he's injury prone.
the thing about it is that with the covid impact all we can really say is the guy wasn't right after covid and was out until the start of this season and then played.
When is the german winter break as well? that might make that little ankle injury look alot worse than it was as well.
posted on 29/3/21
the fact is the serious injury was related to a hip/muscule injury in that region and with ANY mention of hip the medical staff need to be 100% crystal clear its permenanty fixed.
--------------------
I did see online that he had surgery on his hip last summer and has so far had no reoccurrence of anything relating to it, so hopefully the issue is already fixed.
posted on 29/3/21
keep naby n matip company ?
posted on 30/3/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 17 hours, 11 minutes ago
the fact is the serious injury was related to a hip/muscule injury in that region and with ANY mention of hip the medical staff need to be 100% crystal clear its permenanty fixed.
--------------------
I did see online that he had surgery on his hip last summer and has so far had no reoccurrence of anything relating to it, so hopefully the issue is already fixed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
roy keane might have said the same.
so would sturrdige for example.
the worry is that the injury leads to others like groin or hamsting instability.
the medical staff needs a long hard look at it, thats all.
posted on 30/3/21
Deems weird to buy an injury prone cb to compete with other injury prone cbs
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