Could a Hertha Berlin reserve done better than an Arsenal one. It’s an interesting question, and certainly one to spend Easter weekend pondering...
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Could a Hertha Berlin reserve done better than an Arsenal one. It’s an interesting question, and certainly one to spend Easter weekend pondering...
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That’s an intelligent response, watched him for the under 21 and he looked very good. Any thoughts on Saliba, you telling me he shouldn’t be in our team.
Saliba will be in the team next season.
As for trying to mock my response... how about trying to give me something to work with, eh?
Well that’s not my point whether he will be here next season my point is why is he not here now infront of Holding, if you hadn’t have skipped through the article you might have understood my point. Well you sort of mocked mine with your sarcasm so 🤷♂️.
Also on guendouzi , he’s been injured a lot and has been with the under 21s hardly makes him a reserve , I just asked the question ability wise could he have done any worse than Ceballos.
Hertha have already stated they’ve no intention or desire to keep Guendouzi next season. Nothing to do with his injury record, but his attitude and lack of maturity. Arteta extracting that kind of bad influence from our squad was a masterstroke, I’d say. No different to Ozil, Kolasinac and Mustafi - for which he and Edu were widely praised.
How many of the last 10 games has Holding started for us. 2 or 3, is it? Would playing every now and then to cover injuries be the best way for Saliba to develop, or rather playing regularly for a team in a far less pressured environment than at Arsenal?
Hmm... it’s a tricky one. Almost.
Well obviously you haven’t taken into consideration that luiz could be out for a while, so Holding could be our regular starter from now. Saliba could be a better option than Holding and imo should be here now.
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
Yes but what manager goes into any season thinking one of their first choice CBs might miss a chunk of the season through injury? Jurgen Klopp didn’t.
Anyway, still comes down to game time being the reason for Saliba playing well. He wouldn’t have had that had he stayed at Arsenal this season.
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
Well every manager should plan for that case, it’s a long season and history has showed that things change very quickly in football and you can easily lose your key players and that should be in every managers plan. Klopp lost his two key cbs freakishly and no you can’t plan for that but their is always a gd chance given the pace and schedule of the game now that you could lose a key player at some point during the season and you need an an adequate replacement. Saliba is better than holding and we have a gd chance of winning the Europa league.
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comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
You need to look at the bigger picture.Holding is a player that needs to play in a defence that works as a unit, talking to and supporting each other. He can be very good in the right unit with the players around him working together and giving instructions. He has had some very good performances when used the right way. Gabriel is a player who tends to play as an individual more than a part of the unit.
Both can work well, but when you pair players together with different styles of play it can cause problems, like it did yesterday. I said on another forum before the game yesterday that I was worried about that partnership and would have preferred holding and Mari as they tend to form the better unit. In the same way Gabriel is better paired with Luiz, who is now out for a while as their styles suit each other.
There have been a number of times where Holding has made a saving defensive header, but that doesnt get considered in these knee jerk reactions. The difference is ones like yesterday he needs someone to give him a shout or instructions that there is a player behind him. While I dont want to raise "that" discussion again, its one where i think Emi would have barked orders at him to cover back, something Leno just doesnt do as well. Holding needs that to be at his best.
So for me the buck stops with Arteta for this. He has made a decision that worried me before the game and my fears were realised. If a dumbarse like me could see that coming the manager of Arsenal should of been able to. I think Mari and Holding forms a better partnership than Gabriel and Holding. Havent really seen enough of Mari and Gabriel recently but from when they have played I would question that partnership as well.
As for others on loan, I dont think AMN will make it with us but I think Willock can do a better job than Ceballos is atm.
You could even say that Saliba was better than Fofana at st ettiene, so that puts to bed your inexperience point.
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
You need to look at the bigger picture.Holding is a player that needs to play in a defence that works as a unit, talking to and supporting each other. He can be very good in the right unit with the players around him working together and giving instructions. He has had some very good performances when used the right way. Gabriel is a player who tends to play as an individual more than a part of the unit.
Both can work well, but when you pair players together with different styles of play it can cause problems, like it did yesterday. I said on another forum before the game yesterday that I was worried about that partnership and would have preferred holding and Mari as they tend to form the better unit. In the same way Gabriel is better paired with Luiz, who is now out for a while as their styles suit each other.
There have been a number of times where Holding has made a saving defensive header, but that doesnt get considered in these knee jerk reactions. The difference is ones like yesterday he needs someone to give him a shout or instructions that there is a player behind him. While I dont want to raise "that" discussion again, its one where i think Emi would have barked orders at him to cover back, something Leno just doesnt do as well. Holding needs that to be at his best.
So for me the buck stops with Arteta for this. He has made a decision that worried me before the game and my fears were realised. If a dumbarse like me could see that coming the manager of Arsenal should of been able to. I think Mari and Holding forms a better partnership than Gabriel and Holding. Havent really seen enough of Mari and Gabriel recently but from when they have played I would question that partnership as well.
As for others on loan, I dont think AMN will make it with us but I think Willock can do a better job than Ceballos is atm.
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You’re missing my point and it’s not a knee jerk reaction because Holding has been poor for a while now and it doesn’t matter if he does make a defensive saving header it’s his general play and clumsy ness that is costing us. It’s not about whether he doesn’t get a call, if he’s got that general awareness that a good cb has he shouldn’t be relying on another player to give him a shout. He should be leading that defence, he’s played more games than Gabriel , my point is that we are not in a position to have Saliba on loan and he’s Better than holding imo.
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comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
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comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
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Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
If Forfana makes a mistake playing for Leicester it’s literally forgotten within days - sometimes even less.
If Luiz makes a mistake for Arsenal, it’s still brought up weeks, sometimes months later.
That would be the difference for Saliba, and why loaning him out was the correct decision.
Loaning him was the correct decision.
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comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
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Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
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It’s a young player coming into the premier league and bossing a defence that are 2nd in the table in 15 pts clear of us. You asked me the question of who has the same profile as Saliba at the same age. That was your question.
^forgive the lack of editing there. Wasn’t trying to emphasise my point
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comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
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comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
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Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
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It’s a young player coming into the premier league and bossing a defence that are 2nd in the table in 15 pts clear of us. You asked me the question of who has the same profile as Saliba at the same age. That was your question.
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Read it again. It clearly wasn’t my point.
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
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It’s a young player coming into the premier league and bossing a defence that are 2nd in the table in 15 pts clear of us. You asked me the question of who has the same profile as Saliba at the same age. That was your question.
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Read it again. It clearly wasn’t my point.
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Obviously arsenal a far bigger club. I don’t think their is as much added pressure for Saliba than what Fofana is achieving with Leicester at the mo. I disagree , I feel he’s ready and better than our current options. That’s my opinon, if you disagree then fair enough.
I hope you’re right, and he shows it for us next season. Would much rather we had a player ready to step in at CB, than had to go into the transfer market again for one next summer.
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You’re missing my point and it’s not a knee jerk reaction because Holding has been poor for a while now and it doesn’t matter if he does make a defensive saving header it’s his general play and clumsy ness that is costing us. It’s not about whether he doesn’t get a call, if he’s got that general awareness that a good cb has he shouldn’t be relying on another player to give him a shout. He should be leading that defence, he’s played more games than Gabriel , my point is that we are not in a position to have Saliba on loan and he’s Better than holding imo.
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Yet in this fixture last season when we beat Liverpool at home Holding was the MOTM. Imnot missing your point, Im saying that when used in the right way Holding can be a good player. there are reasons Saliba went on loan and the greater physical demands of the PL was I believe a key consideration as he wasnt seen as being ready. He may look good in the French league, but can you be sure he wouldnt get bullied here? Arteta seemed to think he wasnt up to it yet.
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posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
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You’re missing my point and it’s not a knee jerk reaction because Holding has been poor for a while now and it doesn’t matter if he does make a defensive saving header it’s his general play and clumsy ness that is costing us. It’s not about whether he doesn’t get a call, if he’s got that general awareness that a good cb has he shouldn’t be relying on another player to give him a shout. He should be leading that defence, he’s played more games than Gabriel , my point is that we are not in a position to have Saliba on loan and he’s Better than holding imo.
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Yet in this fixture last season when we beat Liverpool at home Holding was the MOTM. Imnot missing your point, Im saying that when used in the right way Holding can be a good player. there are reasons Saliba went on loan and the greater physical demands of the PL was I believe a key consideration as he wasnt seen as being ready. He may look good in the French league, but can you be sure he wouldnt get bullied here? Arteta seemed to think he wasnt up to it yet.
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You can pick one game out from every player where they have been outstanding. This is his 3rd manager he’s played under and he’s found himself out of the side what does that tell you?. He was only brought in last night cause Luiz was out. How do we know that Saliba wouldn’t come in and be a revelation? Fofana player in the French league and is now one of the premier leagues best defenders.
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posted on 4/4/21
Could a Hertha Berlin reserve done better than an Arsenal one. It’s an interesting question, and certainly one to spend Easter weekend pondering...
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
Could a Hertha Berlin reserve done better than an Arsenal one. It’s an interesting question, and certainly one to spend Easter weekend pondering...
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That’s an intelligent response, watched him for the under 21 and he looked very good. Any thoughts on Saliba, you telling me he shouldn’t be in our team.
posted on 4/4/21
Saliba will be in the team next season.
As for trying to mock my response... how about trying to give me something to work with, eh?
posted on 4/4/21
Well that’s not my point whether he will be here next season my point is why is he not here now infront of Holding, if you hadn’t have skipped through the article you might have understood my point. Well you sort of mocked mine with your sarcasm so 🤷♂️.
posted on 4/4/21
Also on guendouzi , he’s been injured a lot and has been with the under 21s hardly makes him a reserve , I just asked the question ability wise could he have done any worse than Ceballos.
posted on 4/4/21
Hertha have already stated they’ve no intention or desire to keep Guendouzi next season. Nothing to do with his injury record, but his attitude and lack of maturity. Arteta extracting that kind of bad influence from our squad was a masterstroke, I’d say. No different to Ozil, Kolasinac and Mustafi - for which he and Edu were widely praised.
How many of the last 10 games has Holding started for us. 2 or 3, is it? Would playing every now and then to cover injuries be the best way for Saliba to develop, or rather playing regularly for a team in a far less pressured environment than at Arsenal?
Hmm... it’s a tricky one. Almost.
posted on 4/4/21
Well obviously you haven’t taken into consideration that luiz could be out for a while, so Holding could be our regular starter from now. Saliba could be a better option than Holding and imo should be here now.
posted on 4/4/21
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
posted on 4/4/21
Yes but what manager goes into any season thinking one of their first choice CBs might miss a chunk of the season through injury? Jurgen Klopp didn’t.
Anyway, still comes down to game time being the reason for Saliba playing well. He wouldn’t have had that had he stayed at Arsenal this season.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
posted on 4/4/21
Well every manager should plan for that case, it’s a long season and history has showed that things change very quickly in football and you can easily lose your key players and that should be in every managers plan. Klopp lost his two key cbs freakishly and no you can’t plan for that but their is always a gd chance given the pace and schedule of the game now that you could lose a key player at some point during the season and you need an an adequate replacement. Saliba is better than holding and we have a gd chance of winning the Europa league.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
posted on 4/4/21
You need to look at the bigger picture.Holding is a player that needs to play in a defence that works as a unit, talking to and supporting each other. He can be very good in the right unit with the players around him working together and giving instructions. He has had some very good performances when used the right way. Gabriel is a player who tends to play as an individual more than a part of the unit.
Both can work well, but when you pair players together with different styles of play it can cause problems, like it did yesterday. I said on another forum before the game yesterday that I was worried about that partnership and would have preferred holding and Mari as they tend to form the better unit. In the same way Gabriel is better paired with Luiz, who is now out for a while as their styles suit each other.
There have been a number of times where Holding has made a saving defensive header, but that doesnt get considered in these knee jerk reactions. The difference is ones like yesterday he needs someone to give him a shout or instructions that there is a player behind him. While I dont want to raise "that" discussion again, its one where i think Emi would have barked orders at him to cover back, something Leno just doesnt do as well. Holding needs that to be at his best.
So for me the buck stops with Arteta for this. He has made a decision that worried me before the game and my fears were realised. If a dumbarse like me could see that coming the manager of Arsenal should of been able to. I think Mari and Holding forms a better partnership than Gabriel and Holding. Havent really seen enough of Mari and Gabriel recently but from when they have played I would question that partnership as well.
As for others on loan, I dont think AMN will make it with us but I think Willock can do a better job than Ceballos is atm.
posted on 4/4/21
You could even say that Saliba was better than Fofana at st ettiene, so that puts to bed your inexperience point.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
You need to look at the bigger picture.Holding is a player that needs to play in a defence that works as a unit, talking to and supporting each other. He can be very good in the right unit with the players around him working together and giving instructions. He has had some very good performances when used the right way. Gabriel is a player who tends to play as an individual more than a part of the unit.
Both can work well, but when you pair players together with different styles of play it can cause problems, like it did yesterday. I said on another forum before the game yesterday that I was worried about that partnership and would have preferred holding and Mari as they tend to form the better unit. In the same way Gabriel is better paired with Luiz, who is now out for a while as their styles suit each other.
There have been a number of times where Holding has made a saving defensive header, but that doesnt get considered in these knee jerk reactions. The difference is ones like yesterday he needs someone to give him a shout or instructions that there is a player behind him. While I dont want to raise "that" discussion again, its one where i think Emi would have barked orders at him to cover back, something Leno just doesnt do as well. Holding needs that to be at his best.
So for me the buck stops with Arteta for this. He has made a decision that worried me before the game and my fears were realised. If a dumbarse like me could see that coming the manager of Arsenal should of been able to. I think Mari and Holding forms a better partnership than Gabriel and Holding. Havent really seen enough of Mari and Gabriel recently but from when they have played I would question that partnership as well.
As for others on loan, I dont think AMN will make it with us but I think Willock can do a better job than Ceballos is atm.
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You’re missing my point and it’s not a knee jerk reaction because Holding has been poor for a while now and it doesn’t matter if he does make a defensive saving header it’s his general play and clumsy ness that is costing us. It’s not about whether he doesn’t get a call, if he’s got that general awareness that a good cb has he shouldn’t be relying on another player to give him a shout. He should be leading that defence, he’s played more games than Gabriel , my point is that we are not in a position to have Saliba on loan and he’s Better than holding imo.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
posted on 4/4/21
If Forfana makes a mistake playing for Leicester it’s literally forgotten within days - sometimes even less.
If Luiz makes a mistake for Arsenal, it’s still brought up weeks, sometimes months later.
That would be the difference for Saliba, and why loaning him out was the correct decision.
Loaning him was the correct decision.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
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It’s a young player coming into the premier league and bossing a defence that are 2nd in the table in 15 pts clear of us. You asked me the question of who has the same profile as Saliba at the same age. That was your question.
posted on 4/4/21
^forgive the lack of editing there. Wasn’t trying to emphasise my point
posted on 4/4/21
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
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It’s a young player coming into the premier league and bossing a defence that are 2nd in the table in 15 pts clear of us. You asked me the question of who has the same profile as Saliba at the same age. That was your question.
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Read it again. It clearly wasn’t my point.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Pressured environment? Well at this level it’s all about whether you can handle it. Their is no guarantee that next season things will improve for us form wise, so your point doesn’t even make sense.
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Saliba is 19, and is still relatively inexperienced.
How many CBs with that profile are currently playing for clubs of the size of Arsenal?
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Well Fofana at Leicester for a start who is now their best cb and the same age as Saliba , are Leicester regretting putting him in the side?.
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You think Leicester are a similar scale club as Arsenal?
Interesting.
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It’s a young player coming into the premier league and bossing a defence that are 2nd in the table in 15 pts clear of us. You asked me the question of who has the same profile as Saliba at the same age. That was your question.
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Read it again. It clearly wasn’t my point.
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Obviously arsenal a far bigger club. I don’t think their is as much added pressure for Saliba than what Fofana is achieving with Leicester at the mo. I disagree , I feel he’s ready and better than our current options. That’s my opinon, if you disagree then fair enough.
posted on 4/4/21
I hope you’re right, and he shows it for us next season. Would much rather we had a player ready to step in at CB, than had to go into the transfer market again for one next summer.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
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comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 3 minutes ago
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You’re missing my point and it’s not a knee jerk reaction because Holding has been poor for a while now and it doesn’t matter if he does make a defensive saving header it’s his general play and clumsy ness that is costing us. It’s not about whether he doesn’t get a call, if he’s got that general awareness that a good cb has he shouldn’t be relying on another player to give him a shout. He should be leading that defence, he’s played more games than Gabriel , my point is that we are not in a position to have Saliba on loan and he’s Better than holding imo.
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Yet in this fixture last season when we beat Liverpool at home Holding was the MOTM. Imnot missing your point, Im saying that when used in the right way Holding can be a good player. there are reasons Saliba went on loan and the greater physical demands of the PL was I believe a key consideration as he wasnt seen as being ready. He may look good in the French league, but can you be sure he wouldnt get bullied here? Arteta seemed to think he wasnt up to it yet.
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You’re missing my point and it’s not a knee jerk reaction because Holding has been poor for a while now and it doesn’t matter if he does make a defensive saving header it’s his general play and clumsy ness that is costing us. It’s not about whether he doesn’t get a call, if he’s got that general awareness that a good cb has he shouldn’t be relying on another player to give him a shout. He should be leading that defence, he’s played more games than Gabriel , my point is that we are not in a position to have Saliba on loan and he’s Better than holding imo.
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Yet in this fixture last season when we beat Liverpool at home Holding was the MOTM. Imnot missing your point, Im saying that when used in the right way Holding can be a good player. there are reasons Saliba went on loan and the greater physical demands of the PL was I believe a key consideration as he wasnt seen as being ready. He may look good in the French league, but can you be sure he wouldnt get bullied here? Arteta seemed to think he wasnt up to it yet.
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You can pick one game out from every player where they have been outstanding. This is his 3rd manager he’s played under and he’s found himself out of the side what does that tell you?. He was only brought in last night cause Luiz was out. How do we know that Saliba wouldn’t come in and be a revelation? Fofana player in the French league and is now one of the premier leagues best defenders.
posted on 4/4/21
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