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posted on 19/5/21

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 20 seconds ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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Maybe if he Makes Telles better we win the league?
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And doesnt sell romero.

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 20 seconds ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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๐Ÿ˜‚
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Maybe if he Makes Telles better we win the league?
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Start with the low hanging fruit

After Telles, he can do Lindelof the year after and we'll win the CL

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 20 seconds ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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๐Ÿ˜‚
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Maybe if he Makes Telles better we win the league?
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And doesnt sell romero.
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Yep. If we play Shaw as the left back, Telles as the left sided full back and our 4th best keeper, surely no one can stop us?

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 20 seconds ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
๐Ÿ˜‚
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Maybe if he Makes Telles better we win the league?
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And doesnt sell romero.
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Yep. If we play Shaw as the left back, Telles as the left sided full back and our 4th best keeper, surely no one can stop us?
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Gotta sell Trashford too.

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 20 seconds ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------
๐Ÿ˜‚
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe if he Makes Telles better we win the league?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And doesnt sell romero.
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Yep. If we play Shaw as the left back, Telles as the left sided full back and our 4th best keeper, surely no one can stop us?
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Gotta sell Trashford too.
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Look how amazing Smalling was in the semi final against us

posted on 19/5/21

OP, weren’t you “Ole in” just a couple of weeks ago? Has this changed and, if so, why?

To answer the question in the OP: Shaw, Lindelof, Fred, McTominay, Pogba, Martial and Rashford can all be said to have shown signs of improvement under Solskjær. Not all have sustained it, of course.

Then the likes of Bruno, Cavani, Greenwood and Maguire have come in under Solskjær and done pretty well.

posted on 19/5/21

Im Ole out. I don’t think he will top this season. Go out at the top.

My question wasn’t who has done well under, but who has improved under Ole. Who is a better player now due to Ole.

I can’t see anyone beyond Shaw currently. Most have regressed.

posted on 19/5/21

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 minutes ago
Im Ole out. I don’t think he will top this season. Go out at the top.

My question wasn’t who has done well under, but who has improved under Ole. Who is a better player now due to Ole.

I can’t see anyone beyond Shaw currently. Most have regressed.


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What makes you think that?

posted on 19/5/21

My question wasn’t who has done well under, but who has improved under Ole.

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I only named seven who you could say had improved

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 minutes ago
My question wasn’t who has done well under, but who has improved under Ole.

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I only named seven who you could say had improved
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He doesnt care what ramdom Internet people think๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ˜‚

posted on 19/5/21

AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred
McTominay Pogba
Bruno
Greenwood Cavani

An outfield team of players who’ve either looked better under Solskjær than they did previously or who he’s brought in and got playing well.

What a coach.

posted on 19/5/21



Fred

comment by Shugs (U14253)

posted on 19/5/21

Rashford has regressed

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By almost doubling his goal and assists compared to his output under the previous management?

posted on 19/5/21

Lindelof and Fred are bad at football, but they are less bad under Ole than they were under Jose.

I would also point to the signings Ole has made, which have doubtlessly improved the side he inherited: AWB (as distinctly average as he is, we had toilet paper at RB before him and he was highly coveted/rated when we signed him), Maguire, Telles (given Shaw the kick up the bum), Fernandes and Cavani.

posted on 19/5/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 10 hours, 24 minutes ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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Finishing 2nd in a season for United is not progress. There are to many variables to take it to account. Here a few just of the top of my head.
You play 3 different teams for a start
Are certain players injured or suspended
Referee decisions go for or against you
VAR
Transfers
Are the team you playing at certain parts of the season in and out of form.
List goes on.

We have a manager that set us up with 2 Dms in every single game. Which is why 90% of our games these season. We have been dire to watch. Plus agree with the OP. Apart from Shaw. No one really improve. Bruno has come in and save Ole. Not because he a great manager.

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Fred The Red (U22224)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 10 hours, 24 minutes ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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Finishing 2nd in a season for United is not progress. There are to many variables to take it to account. Here a few just of the top of my head.
You play 3 different teams for a start
Are certain players injured or suspended
Referee decisions go for or against you
VAR
Transfers
Are the team you playing at certain parts of the season in and out of form.
List goes on.

We have a manager that set us up with 2 Dms in every single game. Which is why 90% of our games these season. We have been dire to watch. Plus agree with the OP. Apart from Shaw. No one really improve. Bruno has come in and save Ole. Not because he a great manager.

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comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 9 hours, 55 minutes ago

AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Fred
McTominay Pogba
Bruno
Greenwood Cavani

An outfield team of players who’ve either looked better under Solskjær than they did previously or who he’s brought in and got playing well.

- Do you disagree with Clockwork's observation?

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Fred The Red (U22224)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 10 hours, 24 minutes ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
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Finishing 2nd in a season for United is not progress. There are to many variables to take it to account. Here a few just of the top of my head.
You play 3 different teams for a start
Are certain players injured or suspended
Referee decisions go for or against you
VAR
Transfers
Are the team you playing at certain parts of the season in and out of form.
List goes on.

We have a manager that set us up with 2 Dms in every single game. Which is why 90% of our games these season. We have been dire to watch. Plus agree with the OP. Apart from Shaw. No one really improve. Bruno has come in and save Ole. Not because he a great manager.

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Aren't these variables also applicable to the other 19 clubs in the league?

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 11 hours, 26 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 6 seconds ago
If a tree falls in the forest, but there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
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And will you hear the snapping of twigs?
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If nobody witnesses the snapping of twigs, do they truly snap?
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Depends on if they were snapped by nature or nurture?
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I disagree

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Colemanballs-ุฌูŠุด ุงู„ุฏูุงุน ุงู„ุฅุณุฑุงุฆูŠู„ูŠ (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Fred The Red (U22224)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Fckthglzrs (U1270)
posted 10 hours, 24 minutes ago
So had Shaw single handedly propelled us to 2nd and a cup final?

Imagine if Ole can make two players better!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Finishing 2nd in a season for United is not progress. There are to many variables to take it to account. Here a few just of the top of my head.
You play 3 different teams for a start
Are certain players injured or suspended
Referee decisions go for or against you
VAR
Transfers
Are the team you playing at certain parts of the season in and out of form.
List goes on.

We have a manager that set us up with 2 Dms in every single game. Which is why 90% of our games these season. We have been dire to watch. Plus agree with the OP. Apart from Shaw. No one really improve. Bruno has come in and save Ole. Not because he a great manager.

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Aren't these variables also applicable to the other 19 clubs in the league?
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Of course but when looking at it from a United point of view, when fans say finishing 2nd is progress. Is it really. I think the league is weaker this season then the one before.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 19/5/21

comment by Clever - son son son - ' (U18599)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 minutes ago
Im Ole out. I don’t think he will top this season. Go out at the top.

My question wasn’t who has done well under, but who has improved under Ole. Who is a better player now due to Ole.

I can’t see anyone beyond Shaw currently. Most have regressed.


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What makes you think that?
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It'll be the improved points tally and league position I'd have thought.

posted on 19/5/21

I can only assume if we finish 4th or 5th next season the same fans saying finishing second is not an improvement be willing to let Ole off because the league is harder next year, so it's not really a sign of us going backwards.

posted on 20/5/21

Mason Greenwood is a better all round player that he was 12 months ago, refuse to believe Ole hasn't has some impact on that.

Rashford is better, going through a bit of a dip at the moment

Fred and McT are better than they were under Jose.

posted on 20/5/21

comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 1 day ago
I can only assume if we finish 4th or 5th next season the same fans saying finishing second is not an improvement be willing to let Ole off because the league is harder next year, so it's not really a sign of us going backwards.
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Who knows, Could finish 4th and only be 3 or 4 point Behind the league winners. So yeah you could be right.

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