Yeah there was a incident at OT where Roberts ran into Maguire which previously was a clear pen but now they chose to ignore it.
Finally getting some sort of CL type refereeing in the PL.
The key issue is going to be consistency. In some ways last year with the any touch is a pen and get the silly offside lines out was applied for every team I felt. We got some soft pens and we conceded some soft pens.
I just hope they manage to apply this as consistently but my fear is they wont. Plus with any changes the refs have they always peter out after a few weeks.
West Hams penalty was never a penalty. VAR has gone from one extreme to the other, really - which many people wanted.
The only VAR call I can think of was overruling the offside call for the Cresswell goal.
I think the officiating was better on the whole. There were a couple of incidents where I felt VAR should have intervened (Brentford's second goal against Arsenal was a foul on the keeper and Tarkowski committed a foul before scoring for Burnley) but aside from that, it was okay.
I don't think VAR actually intervened at all in any of the matches this weekend, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. That slightly concerns me, as whilst there were far too many soft penalties and goals being disallowed for nothing last year, I think there has to be a happy medium and they can't be afraid of undermining refs for clearly incorrect calls.
The other thing I noticed was on Bruno's hattrick goal for us, there was definitely a hint of offside. Though they aren't showing the reviews for that now and they are using thicker lines, so that was presumably a correct call and tbh I think it's an improvement on the armpit decisions of the last couple of seasons.
I hope so. Certainly seems more in line with what was happening at the Euros where I thought the officiating was superb.
A higher threshold means a more free flowing game.
I watched five games this weekend and all were good. Credit where it is due.
There was an obvious improvement on the opening day with VAR calls and fouls in the games etc that were being overlooked where they previously wouldn't have.
As mentioned above, whether this continues with a successful amount of consistency will be the biggest question mark over this.
I like what they’ve done with marginal offsides. Bruno’s third probably would have been offside last season, but now if the two lines overlap they give the advantage to the attacker. Obviously people will still argue whether the lines are in the right place but I think it’s less ridiculous this way.
Yeah I liked how there were lots of incorrect decisions in order to show that we got it right with Brexit.
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
I like what they’ve done with marginal offsides. Bruno’s third probably would have been offside last season, but now if the two lines overlap they give the advantage to the attacker. Obviously people will still argue whether the lines are in the right place but I think it’s less ridiculous this way.
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aslong as its consistently applied the same way its fine. I dont really like giving benefits to attackers as i feel defending is just as important and especially offside traps are on of the most skilful aspects of the game. But every team gets the same advantage from it i guess.
and it should add goals which are the biggest part of the entertainment*.
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I think the officiating was better on the whole. There were a couple of incidents where I felt VAR should have intervened (Brentford's second goal against Arsenal was a foul on the keeper and Tarkowski committed a foul before scoring for Burnley) but aside from that, it was okay.
I don't think VAR actually intervened at all in any of the matches this weekend, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. That slightly concerns me, as whilst there were far too many soft penalties and goals being disallowed for nothing last year, I think there has to be a happy medium and they can't be afraid of undermining refs for clearly incorrect calls.
The other thing I noticed was on Bruno's hattrick goal for us, there was definitely a hint of offside. Though they aren't showing the reviews for that now and they are using thicker lines, so that was presumably a correct call and tbh I think it's an improvement on the armpit decisions of the last couple of seasons.
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there was a few, like cresswells goal? i agree on the main point though the officiating seemed a lot better this weekend than we've been subjected to for the last few years.
I agree with robbing the 5 or so games i watched live this weekend in the prem felt a lot better, and i felt a need to give the officials some credit when its due because it felt like a huge step in the right direction.
Whether or not they keep it up consistently idk but hopefully they watched and listened too. Especially to the crowd and commentators reacting in the Spurs City game. How they loved that the hard but fair tackles were allowed to flow. Felt like a mans game again for a bit to me.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I think the officiating was better on the whole. There were a couple of incidents where I felt VAR should have intervened (Brentford's second goal against Arsenal was a foul on the keeper and Tarkowski committed a foul before scoring for Burnley) but aside from that, it was okay.
I don't think VAR actually intervened at all in any of the matches this weekend, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. That slightly concerns me, as whilst there were far too many soft penalties and goals being disallowed for nothing last year, I think there has to be a happy medium and they can't be afraid of undermining refs for clearly incorrect calls.
The other thing I noticed was on Bruno's hattrick goal for us, there was definitely a hint of offside. Though they aren't showing the reviews for that now and they are using thicker lines, so that was presumably a correct call and tbh I think it's an improvement on the armpit decisions of the last couple of seasons.
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there was a few, like cresswells goal? i agree on the main point though the officiating seemed a lot better this weekend than we've been subjected to for the last few years.
I agree with robbing the 5 or so games i watched live this weekend in the prem felt a lot better, and i felt a need to give the officials some credit when its due because it felt like a huge step in the right direction.
Whether or not they keep it up consistently idk but hopefully they watched and listened too. Especially to the crowd and commentators reacting in the Spurs City game. How they loved that the hard but fair tackles were allowed to flow. Felt like a mans game again for a bit to me.
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Cresswell's goal was for offside though, where it either is or isn't (in theory). It's with fouls where I'd be concerned they're going to let obvious ones go, to avoid overruling the ref.
yeah they still dont interfere with free kicks or w.e but in case of going forward the obvious errors like Chelseas free kick goal maybe they could and corners/throw-ins. I mean these usually take long enough to set up and take anyway than whats required for VAR to have a quick review and word in the ear of the ref to overturn it. So its not like its slowing the game down is it?
Just pleased that it’s all a lot less fussy with minimal delays on the outcome of reviews. To try, and fail, to get 100% of decisions correct rather than stick to the clear and obvious principle was just a mistake.
the LFC match was not good.
marriner bloew up for every flop by cantwell. Mane did one and was rewarded. Often cantwell actually stopped and begged for any contact and flopped.
he then didn't blow up when pukki slipped (about the only time he didn't)
he booked milner early for a challenge giving no grace at all then failed to book anyone else til cantwell committed a snide pro foul.
Overall he was whistle happy a bit too much.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 6 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Whether or not they keep it up consistently idk but hopefully they watched and listened too. Especially to the crowd and commentators reacting in the Spurs City game. How they loved that the hard but fair tackles were allowed to flow. Felt like a mans game again for a bit to me.
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If they keep it up the value of Grealish and Sterling is going to plummet. A huge part of their game is the ability to throw themselves to the ground in a convincing manner to win free kicks and pens.
I dont like they dint show the lines for the tight calls unless I missed it!
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
I dont like they dint show the lines for the tight calls unless I missed it!
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Totally disagree. Offsides should remain as given on the pitch unless there’s a clear and obvious error. Just requires a ten second look to judge that. If they need to draw lines on the pitch it’s not clear and obvious
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posted on 16/8/21
Yeah there was a incident at OT where Roberts ran into Maguire which previously was a clear pen but now they chose to ignore it.
Finally getting some sort of CL type refereeing in the PL.
posted on 16/8/21
The key issue is going to be consistency. In some ways last year with the any touch is a pen and get the silly offside lines out was applied for every team I felt. We got some soft pens and we conceded some soft pens.
I just hope they manage to apply this as consistently but my fear is they wont. Plus with any changes the refs have they always peter out after a few weeks.
posted on 16/8/21
West Hams penalty was never a penalty. VAR has gone from one extreme to the other, really - which many people wanted.
The only VAR call I can think of was overruling the offside call for the Cresswell goal.
posted on 16/8/21
I think the officiating was better on the whole. There were a couple of incidents where I felt VAR should have intervened (Brentford's second goal against Arsenal was a foul on the keeper and Tarkowski committed a foul before scoring for Burnley) but aside from that, it was okay.
I don't think VAR actually intervened at all in any of the matches this weekend, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. That slightly concerns me, as whilst there were far too many soft penalties and goals being disallowed for nothing last year, I think there has to be a happy medium and they can't be afraid of undermining refs for clearly incorrect calls.
The other thing I noticed was on Bruno's hattrick goal for us, there was definitely a hint of offside. Though they aren't showing the reviews for that now and they are using thicker lines, so that was presumably a correct call and tbh I think it's an improvement on the armpit decisions of the last couple of seasons.
posted on 16/8/21
I hope so. Certainly seems more in line with what was happening at the Euros where I thought the officiating was superb.
A higher threshold means a more free flowing game.
I watched five games this weekend and all were good. Credit where it is due.
posted on 16/8/21
There was an obvious improvement on the opening day with VAR calls and fouls in the games etc that were being overlooked where they previously wouldn't have.
As mentioned above, whether this continues with a successful amount of consistency will be the biggest question mark over this.
posted on 16/8/21
I like what they’ve done with marginal offsides. Bruno’s third probably would have been offside last season, but now if the two lines overlap they give the advantage to the attacker. Obviously people will still argue whether the lines are in the right place but I think it’s less ridiculous this way.
posted on 16/8/21
Yeah I liked how there were lots of incorrect decisions in order to show that we got it right with Brexit.
posted on 16/8/21
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
I like what they’ve done with marginal offsides. Bruno’s third probably would have been offside last season, but now if the two lines overlap they give the advantage to the attacker. Obviously people will still argue whether the lines are in the right place but I think it’s less ridiculous this way.
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aslong as its consistently applied the same way its fine. I dont really like giving benefits to attackers as i feel defending is just as important and especially offside traps are on of the most skilful aspects of the game. But every team gets the same advantage from it i guess.
posted on 16/8/21
and it should add goals which are the biggest part of the entertainment*.
posted on 16/8/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I think the officiating was better on the whole. There were a couple of incidents where I felt VAR should have intervened (Brentford's second goal against Arsenal was a foul on the keeper and Tarkowski committed a foul before scoring for Burnley) but aside from that, it was okay.
I don't think VAR actually intervened at all in any of the matches this weekend, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. That slightly concerns me, as whilst there were far too many soft penalties and goals being disallowed for nothing last year, I think there has to be a happy medium and they can't be afraid of undermining refs for clearly incorrect calls.
The other thing I noticed was on Bruno's hattrick goal for us, there was definitely a hint of offside. Though they aren't showing the reviews for that now and they are using thicker lines, so that was presumably a correct call and tbh I think it's an improvement on the armpit decisions of the last couple of seasons.
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there was a few, like cresswells goal? i agree on the main point though the officiating seemed a lot better this weekend than we've been subjected to for the last few years.
I agree with robbing the 5 or so games i watched live this weekend in the prem felt a lot better, and i felt a need to give the officials some credit when its due because it felt like a huge step in the right direction.
Whether or not they keep it up consistently idk but hopefully they watched and listened too. Especially to the crowd and commentators reacting in the Spurs City game. How they loved that the hard but fair tackles were allowed to flow. Felt like a mans game again for a bit to me.
posted on 16/8/21
weve got are game back
posted on 16/8/21
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I think the officiating was better on the whole. There were a couple of incidents where I felt VAR should have intervened (Brentford's second goal against Arsenal was a foul on the keeper and Tarkowski committed a foul before scoring for Burnley) but aside from that, it was okay.
I don't think VAR actually intervened at all in any of the matches this weekend, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. That slightly concerns me, as whilst there were far too many soft penalties and goals being disallowed for nothing last year, I think there has to be a happy medium and they can't be afraid of undermining refs for clearly incorrect calls.
The other thing I noticed was on Bruno's hattrick goal for us, there was definitely a hint of offside. Though they aren't showing the reviews for that now and they are using thicker lines, so that was presumably a correct call and tbh I think it's an improvement on the armpit decisions of the last couple of seasons.
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there was a few, like cresswells goal? i agree on the main point though the officiating seemed a lot better this weekend than we've been subjected to for the last few years.
I agree with robbing the 5 or so games i watched live this weekend in the prem felt a lot better, and i felt a need to give the officials some credit when its due because it felt like a huge step in the right direction.
Whether or not they keep it up consistently idk but hopefully they watched and listened too. Especially to the crowd and commentators reacting in the Spurs City game. How they loved that the hard but fair tackles were allowed to flow. Felt like a mans game again for a bit to me.
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Cresswell's goal was for offside though, where it either is or isn't (in theory). It's with fouls where I'd be concerned they're going to let obvious ones go, to avoid overruling the ref.
posted on 16/8/21
yeah they still dont interfere with free kicks or w.e but in case of going forward the obvious errors like Chelseas free kick goal maybe they could and corners/throw-ins. I mean these usually take long enough to set up and take anyway than whats required for VAR to have a quick review and word in the ear of the ref to overturn it. So its not like its slowing the game down is it?
posted on 16/8/21
Just pleased that it’s all a lot less fussy with minimal delays on the outcome of reviews. To try, and fail, to get 100% of decisions correct rather than stick to the clear and obvious principle was just a mistake.
posted on 16/8/21
the LFC match was not good.
marriner bloew up for every flop by cantwell. Mane did one and was rewarded. Often cantwell actually stopped and begged for any contact and flopped.
he then didn't blow up when pukki slipped (about the only time he didn't)
he booked milner early for a challenge giving no grace at all then failed to book anyone else til cantwell committed a snide pro foul.
Overall he was whistle happy a bit too much.
posted on 16/8/21
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 6 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
Whether or not they keep it up consistently idk but hopefully they watched and listened too. Especially to the crowd and commentators reacting in the Spurs City game. How they loved that the hard but fair tackles were allowed to flow. Felt like a mans game again for a bit to me.
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If they keep it up the value of Grealish and Sterling is going to plummet. A huge part of their game is the ability to throw themselves to the ground in a convincing manner to win free kicks and pens.
posted on 17/8/21
I dont like they dint show the lines for the tight calls unless I missed it!
posted on 17/8/21
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
I dont like they dint show the lines for the tight calls unless I missed it!
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Totally disagree. Offsides should remain as given on the pitch unless there’s a clear and obvious error. Just requires a ten second look to judge that. If they need to draw lines on the pitch it’s not clear and obvious
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