Trying to find out who is on the board of the EFL is ;like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
There is only one director listed, which is a company, called "THE ALLIANCE FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LIMITED" ............. one of the directors of that company is the EFL!!!
Talk about smoke and mirrors.
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 13 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure that Gibson is not a EFL board member, Chicago, though people often say he is.
I don't understand why, if he has a case at all, that it isn't against the EFL. Derby don't decide on what punishments Derby receive, if any. That's the EFL's responsibility. Punishments are not given during the season when the supposed breach occurs, but at some point after the EFL decides that the club has been found guilty. I guess his claim would be that if Derby knowingly cheated in that particular season then he could sue for damages, but the FFP regulations are spread over 3 seasons so even if Derby were way over spending limits in that one season then it wouldn't necessarily mean breach of the 3-season rules. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
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He can't go after EFL but he can Derby. Given the animosity the two clubs share ( I personally dislike that club since going to Riverside and having an awful experience, not helped by seeing Derby tonked , sat with the home fans). It's clear he has a vendetta against us and the manner in which MM has managed the club.
Missing out on a play off spot by one point clearly grates with him due to Derby's financial power back then, when really he should have focused on how could we have got two extra points.
End of the day, what a sheet show from MM, given all the finances he had and all he managed was ONE play off final ( previous one under McCLaren was before he took over) and relegation to League One for the first time I've been following Derby since the late 80s.
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
Based on what I read on Twitter today, got to feel bad for the fans in their twenties, not familiar with Jim Smith's success, only joy they had was watching our team promoted with Billy Davies's dull brand of football only to be battered every week in the PL!
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
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Scouse strikes me as a Spectrum ZX man
I agree with the spectrum bit.
The Gibson claim does seem daft. What is he trying to achieve? We have no money and as Vidal says we can’t be the target and furthermore if he is successful the EFL will sheet a brick.
Can you imagine the law suits flying round the league. There can’t be many clubs who haven’t been screwed over by an FFP dodging club.
On the plus side if Gibson records he’s lost £45m for not finishing 6th, how much can we claim for being cheated out of two full prem seasons and 4 parachute seasons for losing two play off finals?
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 50 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
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My mistake, I was referring to shareholders as registered at Companies House.
Apology accepted Scouse. I must say, you are far more gracious in admitting when you have erred than some I could mention.
There is allegedly ONE reason why Ole is still manager.
He was about to be sacked until Sir Alex Ferguson stepped in and allegedly persuaded the board to reconsider.
I have heard it said - and I suspect there's some truth in it - that Ferguson thinks he is the biggest name at Manchester United and therefore has the greatest influence over big decisions. Perhaps he was secretly delighted that Moyes failed, that they all failed, despite £1bn spent on players. He remains king.
ONE BILLION POUNDS
Let that sink in.
Until Man United can step out of the shadow of Alex Ferguson, failure will follow. Particularly if his voice is the one that is being listened to by the owners.
https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1521784/man-utd-news-sir-alex-ferguson-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-ed-woodward-premier-league/amp?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#aoh=16371551014860&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.express.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2F1521784%2Fman-utd-news-sir-alex-ferguson-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-ed-woodward-premier-league
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posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
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Scouse strikes me as a Spectrum ZX man
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Is Bausor any different from Gibson in terms of possible conflict of interest?
comment by The Project is Dead. (U16263)
posted 8 minutes ago
There is allegedly ONE reason why Ole is still manager.
He was about to be sacked until Sir Alex Ferguson stepped in and allegedly persuaded the board to reconsider.
I have heard it said - and I suspect there's some truth in it - that Ferguson thinks he is the biggest name at Manchester United and therefore has the greatest influence over big decisions. Perhaps he was secretly delighted that Moyes failed, that they all failed, despite £1bn spent on players. He remains king.
ONE BILLION POUNDS
Let that sink in.
Until Man United can step out of the shadow of Alex Ferguson, failure will follow. Particularly if his voice is the one that is being listened to by the owners.
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Are you on the right board old chap, this one is for failed clubs with spending under £100M?
comment by Chicagoram (U22653)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Desicafu (U8481)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
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Scouse strikes me as a Spectrum ZX man
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Is Bausor any different from Gibson in terms of possible conflict of interest?
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Bauser gave evidence at the DC hearing on the grounds that Derby should not have been allowed to sell PP and rent it back and that the value was overstated.
At the same hearing 'Boro confirmed that they would pursue compensation from Derby in the even that the EFL claims were upheld.
I would guess it is those comments which are the reason for the claims that Gibson may now sue us, although 'Boro were only originally annoyed by the issues with PP rather than what we were eventually found to be in breach of.
Further 'Boro also wanted to appeal all of the charges that were originally dismissed, effectively bringing advocating that they should be allowed to bring disciplinary charges against another club. previously they had also threatened legal action against the EFL if they did not bring charges against Derby, which of course eventually they did. Most of this is on the EFL website...
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/judgments/judgments-202021/
Thanks Rapsta. Reading the relevant part from the EFL website has given me a headache but it does appear that Boro can go to arbitration over a compensation claim agin Derby based on their claim that Derby gained unfair advantage via breaches thus depriving Boro of the chance of getting to the Prem via the playoffs. To me, that sounds as though Boro must prove that they WOULD have got to the Prem if only they had been allowed into the playoffs at Derby's expense and thus WOULD have earned millions. That is just patent nonsense.
Even if Boro were awarded compensation how the hell could Derby pay? Liquidation would follow and Boro would almost certainly get nowt.
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Project is Dead. (U16263)
posted 8 minutes ago
There is allegedly ONE reason why Ole is still manager.
He was about to be sacked until Sir Alex Ferguson stepped in and allegedly persuaded the board to reconsider.
I have heard it said - and I suspect there's some truth in it - that Ferguson thinks he is the biggest name at Manchester United and therefore has the greatest influence over big decisions. Perhaps he was secretly delighted that Moyes failed, that they all failed, despite £1bn spent on players. He remains king.
ONE BILLION POUNDS
Let that sink in.
Until Man United can step out of the shadow of Alex Ferguson, failure will follow. Particularly if his voice is the one that is being listened to by the owners.
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Are you on the right board old chap, this one is for failed clubs with spending under £100M?
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17/18
Borough finished above us and failed to beat Villa in the playoffs
18/19
We took 4 points off Bristol City n only 2 off Borough. Kept them in the hunt n Forest that season.
20/21
Both Derby n Borough = 5hit
Conclusion Villa and Fulham are significantly better at working with parachute payments than Steve Gibson. Steve Gibson thinks only those with parachute payments should be allowed in the playoff final and Steve Gibson needs some big boy pants.
Well, I've allowed the dust to settle before adding any comments. I see Reading lost 6 points - a mere bagatelle compared to our 21....and I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to make that up over the season.
The whole system is corrupt. To allow clubs coming down from the Premiership 4 years of Parachute payments just encourages those clubs to try and buy their way out of relegation - safe in the knowledge that if they go down to the Championship that they are most likely to be able to bounce straight back up....whilst the poor clubs in the Championship either struggle to survive - or as Mel Morris did, embark on a crusade of ridiculous spending. Too many clubs are now falling foul of the EFL rules and ending up with punishments or relegation.
I wish Derby and Wayne Rooney well. What an example he is setting - and I never would have expected that from his reputation. I sincerely hope he does the honourable thing and stick by us in our time of need. We need that stability. Think of those Managers who left us for pastures new ie. Rowett and McClaren - they would have left like a shot.
Is 21 points recoverable....well, unlikely but the Management and the Players have to believe so. I equally hope that new owners can be brought in before January to allow us to trade in the transfer window.
Equally I hope the players we have will stick by the club as we will need them. I think what Rooney has done is weed out those who aren't committed to the cause and I think that will continue.
I also continue to believe in the Academy and see some good youngsters coming through. Those that do make the grade having come through the Academy will have a natural loyalty to the Club to stick by us (I hope).
To close I will stick by the club and support them as best I can. We all need to maintain that siege mentality and see this through and "F" the EFL. UTR.
Apparently we're willing to let Lawrence go on a free in Jan to save his wages.
MM will get his wish after all with a team full of youth, only players we can field/afford to pay!
Although there are many on here who have said Lawrence is "League 1 at best" I expect there will be plenty of Championship clubs interested so this makes sense for the player and the club. It would free up a chunk of wage and unless we are somehow still in with a chance of staying up there is no point in holding on to a player who won't be part of the team next season.
One of the administrators has just done an interview on Rams TV. Generally positive although not expecting a sale before January. This would not leave Rooney much time to get players out and other players in although even without a formal deal you would hope there would be a very good indication by then what is going to happen. The administrator was at pains to say that this is now the end of the punishment as far as the EFL are concerned. He did allude to other clubs' claims against DCFC and said that this has also been discussed with the EFL but he did not go into any more detail.
He'd most likely flourish elsewhere, in a front two or behind a decent striker.
The club probably has become too toxic for him with the boo brigade prior to and after that incident. He should have left a few years ago.
Based on today's news i think i've worked out how we can make our money back. We need to sign up an ageing international star, say Brazilian and insert an 84 million release clause into their contract. Wait for a money bag club to come and pay the fee to take him. (See Barcelona's contract deal for Dani Alves - odd)
Lawrence still brought more shame on the club than MM and the 3 Amigos combined, should have been fired, but failing that should have gone first chance there was for him to go. Might have got something for him then at least.
9earchange - I feel recently you are always angry. All your messages, I seem to read as though you're absolutely furious.
666 made a good point on another platform;
As soon as we accepted the -9 points without appeal, the EFL gave Reading "only" a -6 penalty for the same indiscretions?
Sticks in the craw somewhat!
I have just watched the interview between Bradley and Jackson which in the main provided cause for some optimism. But there are still many matters which are cause for concern. Most are obvious - the timing of any takeover, the position with HMRC and the potential loss of players. Two others are bothering me (and maybe some of you can clarify matters re the first):
The administrator made it clear that all problems with the EFL have been settled up to 2018 but the possibility of future problems arising up to 2021 was not conclusively covered, or so it seemed to me, apart from the three-point suspension. Any comments?
Secondly, the "claims" by Wycombe and Middlesborough were touched on and here nothing helpful was said at all, maybe because of confidentiality. I sincerely hope that there is no deal arrived at whereby these two are paid something, even if far less than what is apparently claimed. In my view no court of law would award anything but an arbitrator, well that could be different. I would like to think that both clubs will be told in no uncertain terms by the administrators to forget it.
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posted on 17/11/21
Trying to find out who is on the board of the EFL is ;like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
There is only one director listed, which is a company, called "THE ALLIANCE FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LIMITED" ............. one of the directors of that company is the EFL!!!
Talk about smoke and mirrors.
posted on 17/11/21
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 13 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure that Gibson is not a EFL board member, Chicago, though people often say he is.
I don't understand why, if he has a case at all, that it isn't against the EFL. Derby don't decide on what punishments Derby receive, if any. That's the EFL's responsibility. Punishments are not given during the season when the supposed breach occurs, but at some point after the EFL decides that the club has been found guilty. I guess his claim would be that if Derby knowingly cheated in that particular season then he could sue for damages, but the FFP regulations are spread over 3 seasons so even if Derby were way over spending limits in that one season then it wouldn't necessarily mean breach of the 3-season rules. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
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He can't go after EFL but he can Derby. Given the animosity the two clubs share ( I personally dislike that club since going to Riverside and having an awful experience, not helped by seeing Derby tonked , sat with the home fans). It's clear he has a vendetta against us and the manner in which MM has managed the club.
Missing out on a play off spot by one point clearly grates with him due to Derby's financial power back then, when really he should have focused on how could we have got two extra points.
End of the day, what a sheet show from MM, given all the finances he had and all he managed was ONE play off final ( previous one under McCLaren was before he took over) and relegation to League One for the first time I've been following Derby since the late 80s.
posted on 17/11/21
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
posted on 17/11/21
Based on what I read on Twitter today, got to feel bad for the fans in their twenties, not familiar with Jim Smith's success, only joy they had was watching our team promoted with Billy Davies's dull brand of football only to be battered every week in the PL!
posted on 17/11/21
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
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Scouse strikes me as a Spectrum ZX man
posted on 17/11/21
I agree with the spectrum bit.
posted on 17/11/21
The Gibson claim does seem daft. What is he trying to achieve? We have no money and as Vidal says we can’t be the target and furthermore if he is successful the EFL will sheet a brick.
Can you imagine the law suits flying round the league. There can’t be many clubs who haven’t been screwed over by an FFP dodging club.
On the plus side if Gibson records he’s lost £45m for not finishing 6th, how much can we claim for being cheated out of two full prem seasons and 4 parachute seasons for losing two play off finals?
posted on 17/11/21
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 50 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My mistake, I was referring to shareholders as registered at Companies House.
posted on 17/11/21
Apology accepted Scouse. I must say, you are far more gracious in admitting when you have erred than some I could mention.
posted on 17/11/21
There is allegedly ONE reason why Ole is still manager.
He was about to be sacked until Sir Alex Ferguson stepped in and allegedly persuaded the board to reconsider.
I have heard it said - and I suspect there's some truth in it - that Ferguson thinks he is the biggest name at Manchester United and therefore has the greatest influence over big decisions. Perhaps he was secretly delighted that Moyes failed, that they all failed, despite £1bn spent on players. He remains king.
ONE BILLION POUNDS
Let that sink in.
Until Man United can step out of the shadow of Alex Ferguson, failure will follow. Particularly if his voice is the one that is being listened to by the owners.
https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1521784/man-utd-news-sir-alex-ferguson-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-ed-woodward-premier-league/amp?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#aoh=16371551014860&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.express.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2F1521784%2Fman-utd-news-sir-alex-ferguson-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-ed-woodward-premier-league
posted on 17/11/21
comment by Desicafu (U8481)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
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Scouse strikes me as a Spectrum ZX man
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Is Bausor any different from Gibson in terms of possible conflict of interest?
posted on 17/11/21
comment by The Project is Dead. (U16263)
posted 8 minutes ago
There is allegedly ONE reason why Ole is still manager.
He was about to be sacked until Sir Alex Ferguson stepped in and allegedly persuaded the board to reconsider.
I have heard it said - and I suspect there's some truth in it - that Ferguson thinks he is the biggest name at Manchester United and therefore has the greatest influence over big decisions. Perhaps he was secretly delighted that Moyes failed, that they all failed, despite £1bn spent on players. He remains king.
ONE BILLION POUNDS
Let that sink in.
Until Man United can step out of the shadow of Alex Ferguson, failure will follow. Particularly if his voice is the one that is being listened to by the owners.
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Are you on the right board old chap, this one is for failed clubs with spending under £100M?
posted on 17/11/21
comment by Chicagoram (U22653)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Desicafu (U8481)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 2 minutes ago
They have this new thing called Google now, Scouse. If you get someone to show you how it works you will discover in just a few seconds that Neil Bausor, Middlesbrough Chief Executive, was elected onto the board of the EFL in July, together with the Forest chairman and some bloke from Preston called Peter Ridsdale.
The Three Wise Men, you probably would not call them, but then you are hardly likely be in that category yourself either.
.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scouse strikes me as a Spectrum ZX man
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is Bausor any different from Gibson in terms of possible conflict of interest?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bauser gave evidence at the DC hearing on the grounds that Derby should not have been allowed to sell PP and rent it back and that the value was overstated.
At the same hearing 'Boro confirmed that they would pursue compensation from Derby in the even that the EFL claims were upheld.
I would guess it is those comments which are the reason for the claims that Gibson may now sue us, although 'Boro were only originally annoyed by the issues with PP rather than what we were eventually found to be in breach of.
Further 'Boro also wanted to appeal all of the charges that were originally dismissed, effectively bringing advocating that they should be allowed to bring disciplinary charges against another club. previously they had also threatened legal action against the EFL if they did not bring charges against Derby, which of course eventually they did. Most of this is on the EFL website...
https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/judgments/judgments-202021/
posted on 17/11/21
Thanks Rapsta. Reading the relevant part from the EFL website has given me a headache but it does appear that Boro can go to arbitration over a compensation claim agin Derby based on their claim that Derby gained unfair advantage via breaches thus depriving Boro of the chance of getting to the Prem via the playoffs. To me, that sounds as though Boro must prove that they WOULD have got to the Prem if only they had been allowed into the playoffs at Derby's expense and thus WOULD have earned millions. That is just patent nonsense.
Even if Boro were awarded compensation how the hell could Derby pay? Liquidation would follow and Boro would almost certainly get nowt.
posted on 17/11/21
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Project is Dead. (U16263)
posted 8 minutes ago
There is allegedly ONE reason why Ole is still manager.
He was about to be sacked until Sir Alex Ferguson stepped in and allegedly persuaded the board to reconsider.
I have heard it said - and I suspect there's some truth in it - that Ferguson thinks he is the biggest name at Manchester United and therefore has the greatest influence over big decisions. Perhaps he was secretly delighted that Moyes failed, that they all failed, despite £1bn spent on players. He remains king.
ONE BILLION POUNDS
Let that sink in.
Until Man United can step out of the shadow of Alex Ferguson, failure will follow. Particularly if his voice is the one that is being listened to by the owners.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you on the right board old chap, this one is for failed clubs with spending under £100M?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 17/11/21
17/18
Borough finished above us and failed to beat Villa in the playoffs
18/19
We took 4 points off Bristol City n only 2 off Borough. Kept them in the hunt n Forest that season.
20/21
Both Derby n Borough = 5hit
Conclusion Villa and Fulham are significantly better at working with parachute payments than Steve Gibson. Steve Gibson thinks only those with parachute payments should be allowed in the playoff final and Steve Gibson needs some big boy pants.
posted on 18/11/21
Well, I've allowed the dust to settle before adding any comments. I see Reading lost 6 points - a mere bagatelle compared to our 21....and I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to make that up over the season.
The whole system is corrupt. To allow clubs coming down from the Premiership 4 years of Parachute payments just encourages those clubs to try and buy their way out of relegation - safe in the knowledge that if they go down to the Championship that they are most likely to be able to bounce straight back up....whilst the poor clubs in the Championship either struggle to survive - or as Mel Morris did, embark on a crusade of ridiculous spending. Too many clubs are now falling foul of the EFL rules and ending up with punishments or relegation.
I wish Derby and Wayne Rooney well. What an example he is setting - and I never would have expected that from his reputation. I sincerely hope he does the honourable thing and stick by us in our time of need. We need that stability. Think of those Managers who left us for pastures new ie. Rowett and McClaren - they would have left like a shot.
Is 21 points recoverable....well, unlikely but the Management and the Players have to believe so. I equally hope that new owners can be brought in before January to allow us to trade in the transfer window.
Equally I hope the players we have will stick by the club as we will need them. I think what Rooney has done is weed out those who aren't committed to the cause and I think that will continue.
I also continue to believe in the Academy and see some good youngsters coming through. Those that do make the grade having come through the Academy will have a natural loyalty to the Club to stick by us (I hope).
To close I will stick by the club and support them as best I can. We all need to maintain that siege mentality and see this through and "F" the EFL. UTR.
posted on 18/11/21
Apparently we're willing to let Lawrence go on a free in Jan to save his wages.
posted on 18/11/21
MM will get his wish after all with a team full of youth, only players we can field/afford to pay!
posted on 18/11/21
Although there are many on here who have said Lawrence is "League 1 at best" I expect there will be plenty of Championship clubs interested so this makes sense for the player and the club. It would free up a chunk of wage and unless we are somehow still in with a chance of staying up there is no point in holding on to a player who won't be part of the team next season.
One of the administrators has just done an interview on Rams TV. Generally positive although not expecting a sale before January. This would not leave Rooney much time to get players out and other players in although even without a formal deal you would hope there would be a very good indication by then what is going to happen. The administrator was at pains to say that this is now the end of the punishment as far as the EFL are concerned. He did allude to other clubs' claims against DCFC and said that this has also been discussed with the EFL but he did not go into any more detail.
posted on 18/11/21
He'd most likely flourish elsewhere, in a front two or behind a decent striker.
The club probably has become too toxic for him with the boo brigade prior to and after that incident. He should have left a few years ago.
Based on today's news i think i've worked out how we can make our money back. We need to sign up an ageing international star, say Brazilian and insert an 84 million release clause into their contract. Wait for a money bag club to come and pay the fee to take him. (See Barcelona's contract deal for Dani Alves - odd)
posted on 18/11/21
Lawrence still brought more shame on the club than MM and the 3 Amigos combined, should have been fired, but failing that should have gone first chance there was for him to go. Might have got something for him then at least.
posted on 18/11/21
9earchange - I feel recently you are always angry. All your messages, I seem to read as though you're absolutely furious.
posted on 18/11/21
666 made a good point on another platform;
As soon as we accepted the -9 points without appeal, the EFL gave Reading "only" a -6 penalty for the same indiscretions?
Sticks in the craw somewhat!
posted on 18/11/21
I have just watched the interview between Bradley and Jackson which in the main provided cause for some optimism. But there are still many matters which are cause for concern. Most are obvious - the timing of any takeover, the position with HMRC and the potential loss of players. Two others are bothering me (and maybe some of you can clarify matters re the first):
The administrator made it clear that all problems with the EFL have been settled up to 2018 but the possibility of future problems arising up to 2021 was not conclusively covered, or so it seemed to me, apart from the three-point suspension. Any comments?
Secondly, the "claims" by Wycombe and Middlesborough were touched on and here nothing helpful was said at all, maybe because of confidentiality. I sincerely hope that there is no deal arrived at whereby these two are paid something, even if far less than what is apparently claimed. In my view no court of law would award anything but an arbitrator, well that could be different. I would like to think that both clubs will be told in no uncertain terms by the administrators to forget it.
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