comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
That they are still be allowed to play is frankly astonishing. They are owned by a mate of Putin, and the club should at the very least be suspended, until our very hopeless Government finally sanctions Abramovich and starts seizing his assets.
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Wtf! Listen to what your saying Sandy, we do not live in a dictatorship, you are going on waaaayyy too extra over fans singing their owners name.

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Tbf the timing of the singing was totally inappropriate and completely deliberate.
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I get that, but , suspending the team...really??
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Well yeah that’s obviously a bit silly.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 7 minutes ago
After all that Abramovich has done and achieved for Chelse, I can understand Chelsea fans' support and appreciation for him. In any event, we live in a free society, not a dictatorship.
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What he has done for Chelsea has been done with blood money stolen from the Russian people and laundered through London and Chelsea FC. Believe me there is nothing honourable he has done for Chelsea. Everything he has done with his dirty money is for his own gain.
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That's your opinion. Other people are perfectly entitled to see things differently rather than be forced to swallow the official line.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 31 minutes ago
That they are still be allowed to play is frankly astonishing. They are owned by a mate of Putin, and the club should at the very least be suspended, until our very hopeless Government finally sanctions Abramovich and starts seizing his assets.
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Wtf! Listen to what your saying Sandy, we do not live in a dictatorship, you are going on waaaayyy too extra over fans singing their owners name.

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We don`t live in a dictatorship, but it is ironic you are happy for supporters to be singing the name of a man that is supporting a dictator. You couldn`t make it up.

There are certain levels of decency that you try to adhere to even if you do not live in a dictatorship.

Meanwhile spurs fan starts article attempting to completely justify the invasion. I'll try not to 'tar all of you with the same brush'

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
That they are still be allowed to play is frankly astonishing. They are owned by a mate of Putin, and the club should at the very least be suspended, until our very hopeless Government finally sanctions Abramovich and starts seizing his assets.
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Wtf! Listen to what your saying Sandy, we do not live in a dictatorship, you are going on waaaayyy too extra over fans singing their owners name.

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Tbf the timing of the singing was totally inappropriate and completely deliberate.
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I get that, but , suspending the team...really??
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Yes really. You do realise that lots of people are dying in Ukraine, so football should be taking a backseat in reality. Abramovich is a Russian Oligarch and should be suitably punished for being close to Putin, and if that means his assets are seized, including Chelsea FC then so be it.

comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 7 minutes ago
After all that Abramovich has done and achieved for Chelse, I can understand Chelsea fans' support and appreciation for him. In any event, we live in a free society, not a dictatorship.
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What he has done for Chelsea has been done with blood money stolen from the Russian people and laundered through London and Chelsea FC. Believe me there is nothing honourable he has done for Chelsea. Everything he has done with his dirty money is for his own gain.
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That's your opinion. Other people are perfectly entitled to see things differently rather than be forced to swallow the official line.
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Well the official line from Russia is that absolutely nothing is happening in Ukraine, are you going to follow that official line as well.

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 3 minutes ago
Meanwhile spurs fan starts article attempting to completely justify the invasion. I'll try not to 'tar all of you with the same brush'
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WTF

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 31 minutes ago
That they are still be allowed to play is frankly astonishing. They are owned by a mate of Putin, and the club should at the very least be suspended, until our very hopeless Government finally sanctions Abramovich and starts seizing his assets.
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Wtf! Listen to what your saying Sandy, we do not live in a dictatorship, you are going on waaaayyy too extra over fans singing their owners name.

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We don`t live in a dictatorship, but it is ironic you are happy for supporters to be singing the name of a man that is supporting a dictator. You couldn`t make it up.

There are certain levels of decency that you try to adhere to even if you do not live in a dictatorship.
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Saudi Arabia are one of the worst and most brutal dictatorships in the world, yet the FA and British govt welcomed them to Engish football with open arms.

I find it ironic that Burnley supporters - many of whom have some very questionable right wing attitudes themselves - booed the Chelsea fans yesterday.

Says it all really. Tuchel rightly called them out.

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 42 minutes ago
Meanwhile spurs fan starts article attempting to completely justify the invasion. I'll try not to 'tar all of you with the same brush'
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Which article is this ?

Morespurs

Ok just seen it

He’s just commenting on why Putin might be acting the way he is

Justifying the invasion ffs

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 6 minutes ago
Morespurs
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I don’t think he is trying to justify it, he is trying (quite poorly) to explain it from a Russian point of view. I think it’s slanderous to say he is justifying it.

Sure okay

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 15 seconds ago
Sure okay
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Great counter point - I hadn’t considered that “sure okay” gonna need some time to think about this one

Repeating debunked arguments like "zelensky is a neo n4zi" and "Russia invaded to kerb NATO expansion" is just parroting propaganda despite the publicly available arguments to the contrary. That's my counterpoint.

I’ve said it elsewhere - if your a Spurs fan the you know that Chelsea have always had an “element” in their fan base, it has ever been thus.

And this goes beyond tribalism because I wouldn’t label the same thing at our biggest rivals Arsenal who have banned fans for life for gas chamber noises and their own fans root them out.

Happy to debate with anyone, that Chelsea have always had that ‘element’ in their fan base

Absolutely wouldn't deny we have shltty people in our fanbase. It just sucks when others talk about it like it's all of us, and it's frustrating when those accusing you are unwilling to apply the same critical lens inwards

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 1 minute ago
Repeating debunked arguments like "zelensky is a neo n4zi" and "Russia invaded to kerb NATO expansion" is just parroting propaganda despite the publicly available arguments to the contrary. That's my counterpoint.
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Like I said he has argued it poorly - calling the Jewish Ukrainian president a neo N4zi and then some utter nonsense about land mass for missiles.

However he has not tried to justify Russia’s aggression, he hasn’t said they have every right to do this because XYZ. More Spurs crime is not having a faaaacking clue on the matter

Agree to disagree. I think it comes across as him trying to justify it to some extent. I agree that his crime is ignorance rather than malevolence though.

Yes that's the irony of this whole clamour to "save" Ukraine. Their own president is a neo-nazi, who has string links to Isreal.

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Ok own up, which utter feckwit wrote this ?

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Palmers - it was morespurs

comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 31 minutes ago
That they are still be allowed to play is frankly astonishing. They are owned by a mate of Putin, and the club should at the very least be suspended, until our very hopeless Government finally sanctions Abramovich and starts seizing his assets.
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Wtf! Listen to what your saying Sandy, we do not live in a dictatorship, you are going on waaaayyy too extra over fans singing their owners name.

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We don`t live in a dictatorship, but it is ironic you are happy for supporters to be singing the name of a man that is supporting a dictator. You couldn`t make it up.

There are certain levels of decency that you try to adhere to even if you do not live in a dictatorship.
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Saudi Arabia are one of the worst and most brutal dictatorships in the world, yet the FA and British govt welcomed them to Engish football with open arms.
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I didn`t. I loathe them as well. And the Football authorities got that all wrong as well. They should not have been allowed within a million miles of British football.

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 2 minutes ago
Agree to disagree. I think it comes across as him trying to justify it to some extent. I agree that his crime is ignorance rather than malevolence though.
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He’s a fecking simpleton tbf

FWIW I’m not trying to tar Chelsea fans with the same brush above, but there do seem to be a higher proportion of Chelsea fans than any other club who get involved in things like this

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 1 minute ago
Absolutely wouldn't deny we have shltty people in our fanbase. It just sucks when others talk about it like it's all of us, and it's frustrating when those accusing you are unwilling to apply the same critical lens inwards
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Well I certainly wouldn’t apply it to the majority of Chelsea fans who are normal people/fans like the rest of us. For me Tuchel was superb yesterday and is very likeable anyway as a lot of the modern era Chelsea managers have been.

I just remember the 80’s and as a Spurs fan Chelsea was a game to avoid in a way that most others weren’t.

There are some very shihttty Spurs fans that I want nothing to do with. But Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds always had an ‘element’

comment by tcw (U6489)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes that's the irony of this whole clamour to "save" Ukraine. Their own president is a neo-nazi, who has string links to Isreal.

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Ok own up, which utter feckwit wrote this ?

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Palmers - it was morespurs
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Yeah I thought so mate.

Most of the time he’s a thicko but is quite harmless. This is pretty stupid though.