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Player Welfare: Greed Factor?

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posted on 30/5/22

The clubs are some of the biggest offenders here, scheduling pre season tours to far flung places chasing money.

A top 6 player can be rested, others won’t go deep in many comps so play less anyway.

I think if pre season tours were done away with then FIFA/UEFA might have a case to answer

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
The clubs are some of the biggest offenders here, scheduling pre season tours to far flung places chasing money.

A top 6 player can be rested, others won’t go deep in many comps so play less anyway.

I think if pre season tours were done away with then FIFA/UEFA might have a case to answer
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Clubs have been doing that since the 1980's though. The burnout factor for me has become a lot more prevalent in the last 5 or so years.

posted on 30/5/22

The thought of wearing a parka whilst standing in Castlefield Bowl to cheer on England whilst wearing my gloves and beanie hat really doesn't appeal to me;
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Sorry you feel that way but this is the world cup, not the England cup. Its not tailored for any particular persons convenience.

I hate the Qatar world cup because of corruption, slavery, racism, deaths of workers etc. Not because of the weather.

First they have to move the world cup from summer to winter to cater for a percentage of the world that can't handle the summer heat, and now it's a problem because its gonna be cold back home during the world cup? Sheesh.

A world cup should be held anywhere in the world regardless of weather or altitude etc. Every world cup is inconvenient to someone somewhere on this planet.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
The thought of wearing a parka whilst standing in Castlefield Bowl to cheer on England whilst wearing my gloves and beanie hat really doesn't appeal to me;
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Sorry you feel that way but this is the world cup, not the England cup. Its not tailored for any particular persons convenience.

I hate the Qatar world cup because of corruption, slavery, racism, deaths of workers etc. Not because of the weather.

First they have to move the world cup from summer to winter to cater for a percentage of the world that can't handle the summer heat, and now it's a problem because its gonna be cold back home during the world cup? Sheesh.

A world cup should be held anywhere in the world regardless of weather or altitude etc. Every world cup is inconvenient to someone somewhere on this planet.
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Oh no don't get me wrong. FIFA have shown their true colours by playing a World Cup in a place with such awful human rights issues. It is morally reprehensible in fact.

It still won't feel like a World Cup to me. I get your point about the weather, but is there any country that would play a WC during a normal summer tournament and not feel the same as me? As a fan I mean.

They didn't move it to cater for a part of the world that can't handle summer heat, they did it for money. This is a state that executes people for being gay for God's sake. It's disgusting to play a World Cup there. You can't even show affection in public to a woman or you'll be jailed.

posted on 30/5/22

Bit of a strange article about the World Cup and player welfare Culer. As a business magnate and venture capitalist, did you not have to crack a few eggs when you were building your empire?

posted on 30/5/22

Put clauses in players contracts. If you want to play less games get paid less. It’s simple. I have no real sympathy for players who earn so much and have arguably one of the best jobs in the world. They work less days a year then the average person and have the best medical teams alongside.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Culèr: Back Soon (U9489)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
The clubs are some of the biggest offenders here, scheduling pre season tours to far flung places chasing money.

A top 6 player can be rested, others won’t go deep in many comps so play less anyway.

I think if pre season tours were done away with then FIFA/UEFA might have a case to answer
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Clubs have been doing that since the 1980's though. The burnout factor for me has become a lot more prevalent in the last 5 or so years.
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What are you using to gauge that? Players are playing longer careers now then ever.

posted on 30/5/22

Players in the 60s and 70s were playing every game, some in 60+ seasons. With worse lifestyles and training. Squads were 13 players!!

The difference now is the medical side. Players definitely are not more burnt out now, they are just told they are. There was no "red zone" back in the old days. Players in the old days would keep on playing until they physically couldn't. And then they suffered greatly for it.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
Bit of a strange article about the World Cup and player welfare Culer. As a business magnate and venture capitalist, did you not have to crack a few eggs when you were building your empire?
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I didn't order my employees to all work 6 or 7 days a week though.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
Put clauses in players contracts. If you want to play less games get paid less. It’s simple. I have no real sympathy for players who earn so much and have arguably one of the best jobs in the world. They work less days a year then the average person and have the best medical teams alongside.
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I think the potential burnout and overuse of players could result in another Eriksen type incident. Continuously playing games can only put players at increased risk of sudden respiratory issues. Eriksen passed all his medical checks until Euro 2021...

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Culèr: Back Soon (U9489)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
The clubs are some of the biggest offenders here, scheduling pre season tours to far flung places chasing money.

A top 6 player can be rested, others won’t go deep in many comps so play less anyway.

I think if pre season tours were done away with then FIFA/UEFA might have a case to answer
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Clubs have been doing that since the 1980's though. The burnout factor for me has become a lot more prevalent in the last 5 or so years.
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What are you using to gauge that? Players are playing longer careers now then ever.
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There were less games back then and pointless competitions. Even the UCL was less games for example.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 34 minutes ago
Players in the 60s and 70s were playing every game, some in 60+ seasons. With worse lifestyles and training. Squads were 13 players!!

The difference now is the medical side. Players definitely are not more burnt out now, they are just told they are. There was no "red zone" back in the old days. Players in the old days would keep on playing until they physically couldn't. And then they suffered greatly for it.
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Nah you've got this wrong. The game was less demanding then, less running involved and poor standards compared to now.

posted on 30/5/22

Awful mud baths for pitches, poor training, poor diets, no travel luxuries either. Most turned up piiiised and smoke 20 a day. They weren't the finally tuned athletes of today. They also played through injuries that would keep today's players sidelined.
It was far more demanding on them.

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Culèr: Back Soon (U9489)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
Bit of a strange article about the World Cup and player welfare Culer. As a business magnate and venture capitalist, did you not have to crack a few eggs when you were building your empire?
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I didn't order my employees to all work 6 or 7 days a week though.
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🤣 players do about 30 hours of training for a week don’t they?

If you want to see an example of dangerous workplace burnout I’d look at the NHS

posted on 30/5/22

comment by Culèr: Back Soon (U9489)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Culèr: Back Soon (U9489)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Arsenal shat it on 16/01/22 - Todger (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
The clubs are some of the biggest offenders here, scheduling pre season tours to far flung places chasing money.

A top 6 player can be rested, others won’t go deep in many comps so play less anyway.

I think if pre season tours were done away with then FIFA/UEFA might have a case to answer
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Clubs have been doing that since the 1980's though. The burnout factor for me has become a lot more prevalent in the last 5 or so years.
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What are you using to gauge that? Players are playing longer careers now then ever.
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There were less games back then and pointless competitions. Even the UCL was less games for example.
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Exactly, yet careers were shorter. So if players are that burnt out Howcome they have longer careers?

posted on 30/5/22

Not up to your standards culer for hits.
Better say something stupid.

posted on 30/5/22

They get paid well enough to make up for it. Fack em

posted on 31/5/22

I rarely watch soccerball too much these days so I can't offer much
all they do is run and walk around and kick the ball occasionally - they are also young and have cute trainer girls massage their quads anytime they need it - I think they can manage it even though the FIFA WORLD CUP is a joke nowadays

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