Don't know what the stats for the women's game actually are but it was so refreshing to see almost no diving, faking injury and time wasting.
The "men's game" though is a fecking disgrace at the moment
I'm bored of this flavour of the week. Would you mind picking another headline from this lot to be angry about:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 17 seconds ago
I'm bored of this flavour of the week. Would you mind picking another headline from this lot to be angry about:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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Who’s angry, it’s simply a trait that spoils the game!
Ok. Would annoyed be more accurate?
And does it really spoil the game or just irritate occasionally?
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 23 minutes ago
Don't know what the stats for the women's game actually are but it was so refreshing to see almost no diving, faking injury and time wasting.
The "men's game" though is a fecking disgrace at the moment
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That's not going to last, at the highest levels the teams are more just as ready to use any and all of those techniques already. I first noticed it a few years back in European cup later stages. The teams that adopt them tend to get results.
I think spoil is a perfect analogy, some side try and “play the game” but it is getting to be beyond a joke.
A lot of people have complained about the injury time played in the Liverpool game tonight but after 5 minutes we’re added on, the Newcastle keeper was down for nearly 2 minutes. When the ball went into the crowd for the corner at the death, the away fans kept hold of the ball for 30 seconds and the winner was scored on 97 mins!
I also hope the Premier League take action against the Newcastle staff member that launched a water bottle towards the Liverpool bench.
An offence that would see a fan banned!
Everton next for you guys time wasting to begin as soon as the ref blows the whistle. Pickford slumber party with the match ball…..hope you guys hammer them !
comment by Roca-oh thats a bit late! (U22876)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everton next for you guys time wasting to begin as soon as the ref blows the whistle. Pickford slumber party with the match ball…..hope you guys hammer them !
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Imagine us getting a 97 minute winner vs them?
It's grating.
Football is meant to be an entertainment business. Watching keepers fall on the ball, or endless numbers of opposition players with cramp even in the first half is not entertaining. At one point the barcodes were running in to our players then feigning injury, happened three times in the space of 5 minutes.
It's not entertaining.
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
Well there was supposed to be a directive from referees this season to keep games moving, and tbf multi ball has helped a little with that.
But for me the responsibility is on the referee and I do feel that referees should be doing more about it. The above suggestions are good, but until the rules change the refs should be taking a stricter stance on enforcing them, kind of like the shot clock in tennis.
comment by Robb Stifler (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
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Well there wouldn't be much more football played.. we know from the stats that many of the games currently have more than an hour's worth of ball in play time. Though I am curious how you figure there would there be more goals.
I think there's every chance it'd ruin the spectacle. What incentive is there for anyone to restart play quickly if the clock stops? VAR checks could take 5 minutes each time. Football could easily turn into yet another sport with TV ads throughout.
I think the idea is mental, completely unnecessary and shortsighted.
A VAR ref purely in charge of punishing shiiitehousery would be great. You don't need to stop play and wait for decisions like normal VAR, instead they can look at an incident as play goes on and when the ball is out of play let the ref know to yellow the cants that are wasting time
One last attempt at sanity before I leave you all to it.
Before VAR refs weren't getting worse and worse. They were getting steadily better. I hate it, and it's already strayed far from the 'clear and obvious error' remit it was supposed to have because now every decision has to be right apparently.. but I digress.
Time wasting hasn't suddenly got worse. Someone posted stats the other day. The sport you grew up loving and apparently care enough about to spend time on forums like this is still there. It's not being spoiled by anything other than by idiots with nothing better to do looking for fixes to 'problems' that actually are a part of why you love it in the first place.
And no, I'm not just crotchety. Goal line technology made football objectively better. We can have progress without facking it all up.
Liverpool fans whining again!
It’s part and parcel of the game, yeah frustrating at times every team does it, but because Liverpool were chasing the game it becomes an issue!
It’s frustrating to watch and isn’t great for the game, but how many fans of a team securing a result using these tactics object?
I think the only solution is the 30 mins of ball in play method - worth a test for sure.
As a side note and a little kick start of a debate… how many Liverpool fans jumping to the defence of the referee last night were so forgiving when it was United benefiting from late goals, beyond the minimum added time announced?
football needs a stopwatch alot more than it needs VAR
comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 12 minutes ago
Liverpool fans whining again!
It’s part and parcel of the game, yeah frustrating at times every team does it, but because Liverpool were chasing the game it becomes an issue!
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Time wasting has always been an issue you moron.
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 12 minutes ago
Liverpool fans whining again!
It’s part and parcel of the game, yeah frustrating at times every team does it, but because Liverpool were chasing the game it becomes an issue!
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Time wasting has always been an issue you moron.
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😂😂😂😂
I think it is the keepers that are really exacerbating yhe issue. I said it in the game thread, more and more keepers are doing the pickford. Every ball they collect they just drop to the floor pretending it is a save to kill time. Pope was a joke yesterday and it seems like from.jessis Marsh interview om Tuesday everton were doing the same
I couldn't agree more, and agreed with the thread on the Leeds board about the Everton game the other day.
It really is ruining football as a spectacle for me at this point. Keepers hold onto the ball for 20 seconds or more now, and the amount of "cramp" injuries we see is just ridiculous.
Really turning me off the sport.
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
I'm bored of this flavour of the week. Would you mind picking another headline from this lot to be angry about:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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Bored of it yet posted on this article and even went to daily mail to get a link so your joke would hit. Which it didn’t.
comment by Robb Stifler (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
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I agree in principle, however - as someone said - a lot of time wasting is done by keepers "in play". Our current keeper is a bit of a master of this dark art.
The other big issue is the "Richarlison". Going down holding your head every two minutes, meaning the game gets stopped either by the ref or players being too kind. Very few injuries are serious, and they are pretty obvious when they are. Just play on, and stop allowing players to cheat so blatantly.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robb Stifler (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
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I agree in principle, however - as someone said - a lot of time wasting is done by keepers "in play". Our current keeper is a bit of a master of this dark art.
The other big issue is the "Richarlison". Going down holding your head every two minutes, meaning the game gets stopped either by the ref or players being too kind. Very few injuries are serious, and they are pretty obvious when they are. Just play on, and stop allowing players to cheat so blatantly.
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Agree with this, any player going down holding their head should be made to go off the pitch for a concussion assessment while the game carries on.
That really would solve that issue.
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posted on 1/9/22
Don't know what the stats for the women's game actually are but it was so refreshing to see almost no diving, faking injury and time wasting.
The "men's game" though is a fecking disgrace at the moment
posted on 1/9/22
I'm bored of this flavour of the week. Would you mind picking another headline from this lot to be angry about:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 17 seconds ago
I'm bored of this flavour of the week. Would you mind picking another headline from this lot to be angry about:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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Who’s angry, it’s simply a trait that spoils the game!
posted on 1/9/22
Ok. Would annoyed be more accurate?
And does it really spoil the game or just irritate occasionally?
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 23 minutes ago
Don't know what the stats for the women's game actually are but it was so refreshing to see almost no diving, faking injury and time wasting.
The "men's game" though is a fecking disgrace at the moment
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That's not going to last, at the highest levels the teams are more just as ready to use any and all of those techniques already. I first noticed it a few years back in European cup later stages. The teams that adopt them tend to get results.
posted on 1/9/22
I think spoil is a perfect analogy, some side try and “play the game” but it is getting to be beyond a joke.
A lot of people have complained about the injury time played in the Liverpool game tonight but after 5 minutes we’re added on, the Newcastle keeper was down for nearly 2 minutes. When the ball went into the crowd for the corner at the death, the away fans kept hold of the ball for 30 seconds and the winner was scored on 97 mins!
posted on 1/9/22
I also hope the Premier League take action against the Newcastle staff member that launched a water bottle towards the Liverpool bench.
An offence that would see a fan banned!
posted on 1/9/22
Everton next for you guys time wasting to begin as soon as the ref blows the whistle. Pickford slumber party with the match ball…..hope you guys hammer them !
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Roca-oh thats a bit late! (U22876)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everton next for you guys time wasting to begin as soon as the ref blows the whistle. Pickford slumber party with the match ball…..hope you guys hammer them !
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Imagine us getting a 97 minute winner vs them?
posted on 1/9/22
It's grating.
Football is meant to be an entertainment business. Watching keepers fall on the ball, or endless numbers of opposition players with cramp even in the first half is not entertaining. At one point the barcodes were running in to our players then feigning injury, happened three times in the space of 5 minutes.
It's not entertaining.
posted on 1/9/22
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
posted on 1/9/22
Well there was supposed to be a directive from referees this season to keep games moving, and tbf multi ball has helped a little with that.
But for me the responsibility is on the referee and I do feel that referees should be doing more about it. The above suggestions are good, but until the rules change the refs should be taking a stricter stance on enforcing them, kind of like the shot clock in tennis.
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Robb Stifler (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
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Well there wouldn't be much more football played.. we know from the stats that many of the games currently have more than an hour's worth of ball in play time. Though I am curious how you figure there would there be more goals.
I think there's every chance it'd ruin the spectacle. What incentive is there for anyone to restart play quickly if the clock stops? VAR checks could take 5 minutes each time. Football could easily turn into yet another sport with TV ads throughout.
I think the idea is mental, completely unnecessary and shortsighted.
posted on 1/9/22
A VAR ref purely in charge of punishing shiiitehousery would be great. You don't need to stop play and wait for decisions like normal VAR, instead they can look at an incident as play goes on and when the ball is out of play let the ref know to yellow the cants that are wasting time
posted on 1/9/22
One last attempt at sanity before I leave you all to it.
Before VAR refs weren't getting worse and worse. They were getting steadily better. I hate it, and it's already strayed far from the 'clear and obvious error' remit it was supposed to have because now every decision has to be right apparently.. but I digress.
Time wasting hasn't suddenly got worse. Someone posted stats the other day. The sport you grew up loving and apparently care enough about to spend time on forums like this is still there. It's not being spoiled by anything other than by idiots with nothing better to do looking for fixes to 'problems' that actually are a part of why you love it in the first place.
And no, I'm not just crotchety. Goal line technology made football objectively better. We can have progress without facking it all up.
posted on 1/9/22
Liverpool fans whining again!
It’s part and parcel of the game, yeah frustrating at times every team does it, but because Liverpool were chasing the game it becomes an issue!
posted on 1/9/22
It’s frustrating to watch and isn’t great for the game, but how many fans of a team securing a result using these tactics object?
I think the only solution is the 30 mins of ball in play method - worth a test for sure.
As a side note and a little kick start of a debate… how many Liverpool fans jumping to the defence of the referee last night were so forgiving when it was United benefiting from late goals, beyond the minimum added time announced?
posted on 1/9/22
football needs a stopwatch alot more than it needs VAR
posted on 1/9/22
comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 12 minutes ago
Liverpool fans whining again!
It’s part and parcel of the game, yeah frustrating at times every team does it, but because Liverpool were chasing the game it becomes an issue!
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Time wasting has always been an issue you moron.
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 12 minutes ago
Liverpool fans whining again!
It’s part and parcel of the game, yeah frustrating at times every team does it, but because Liverpool were chasing the game it becomes an issue!
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Time wasting has always been an issue you moron.
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😂😂😂😂
posted on 1/9/22
I think it is the keepers that are really exacerbating yhe issue. I said it in the game thread, more and more keepers are doing the pickford. Every ball they collect they just drop to the floor pretending it is a save to kill time. Pope was a joke yesterday and it seems like from.jessis Marsh interview om Tuesday everton were doing the same
posted on 1/9/22
I couldn't agree more, and agreed with the thread on the Leeds board about the Everton game the other day.
It really is ruining football as a spectacle for me at this point. Keepers hold onto the ball for 20 seconds or more now, and the amount of "cramp" injuries we see is just ridiculous.
Really turning me off the sport.
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
I'm bored of this flavour of the week. Would you mind picking another headline from this lot to be angry about:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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Bored of it yet posted on this article and even went to daily mail to get a link so your joke would hit. Which it didn’t.
posted on 1/9/22
comment by Robb Stifler (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
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I agree in principle, however - as someone said - a lot of time wasting is done by keepers "in play". Our current keeper is a bit of a master of this dark art.
The other big issue is the "Richarlison". Going down holding your head every two minutes, meaning the game gets stopped either by the ref or players being too kind. Very few injuries are serious, and they are pretty obvious when they are. Just play on, and stop allowing players to cheat so blatantly.
posted on 1/9/22
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robb Stifler (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
I would happily have 30 min halves where the clock is stopped everytime the ball goes out of play or there’s a stoppage.
Would make the sport much more of a spectacle as there would be much more football played and likely more goals.
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I agree in principle, however - as someone said - a lot of time wasting is done by keepers "in play". Our current keeper is a bit of a master of this dark art.
The other big issue is the "Richarlison". Going down holding your head every two minutes, meaning the game gets stopped either by the ref or players being too kind. Very few injuries are serious, and they are pretty obvious when they are. Just play on, and stop allowing players to cheat so blatantly.
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Agree with this, any player going down holding their head should be made to go off the pitch for a concussion assessment while the game carries on.
That really would solve that issue.
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