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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by SteveF (U22027)
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We all know it is not just about how you are playing, but just as important ( or favorable ) when you play teams.

Without sounding bias, I am beginning to wonder just how many more teams in the bottom half of he table Arsenal have left to play, given they seem to play one of them every week.

As Sandy has said, just after a poor display and loss in midweek, who wouldn't want the bottom ( and worse ) team in the PL, at home, next up ?

The way the fixtures have been planned ( and yeah, they are planned by the FA ) Arsenal continue to play easy game after easy game right up until January. Next up.....

Wolves ( a ) they are are 19th and so 2nd worst team in the PL.
Chelsea ( a) probably the nearest thing to hard, but how bad were Chelsea over the weekend ? again, nice time to play them.
Brighton ( a ) yeah Brighton can play well, but ultimately won't finish in the top 8.
West Ham ( h ) they are 13th, so yet another bottom 6/7 team.
That takes them ( without raising a sweat ) up to the 3rd January.
Factor in a Europa group made up of teams I have already forgotten their names, coupled with the FA, once again bending over for them with the postponed City game ( a loss pushed back to god knows when ) and a blinding inconsistency when compared with how we were treated last season when we actually had a genuine reason for not being able to fulfill a fixture ( you know, Covid when events with large crowds were illegal ) and you start to get a feel for how easy it all has been for Arsenal.

The only saving grace is, given they have only played one of the recognised 'big 7' - I include Newcastle in this now - away from home so far, which they lost, all these games still have to be played in the new year. So let's see how far they fall away when those games happen.
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Well, we drew with Chelsea (sixth) and West Ham, and squeezed out a 0-1 win against Brighton (eighth) so, I’d argue they are tough fixtures.

They’ve also played Liverpool (ninth) us (third), Fulham (seventh), Palace (tenth) and United (fourth) - winning all of them other than United.

So, after 16 league games that’s seven of the top 10 played, of which they can only play nine, and city was postponed. So they’re pretty much par for the course, no?

Time people start to accept Arsenal are the real deal this season, unfortunately.

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All at home mate, other than United, which they lost. And I never get this nonsense about playing top half teams. Every knows that Liverpool are a top half team, and teams like Fulham and Brighton are not. It`s when you play teams, sometimes good teams can be horribly out of form, and so called poor teams can be on form.
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Everyone has to play everyone. This notion that some teams have had easier starts is utter nonsense. In fact, it's embarrassing. Come the end of the season no one has ever blamed their final league position based on their run of fixtures.

Arsenal are doing well at the moment, we just need to accept it. And why do you even care Sandy? You've told us all that we'll comfortably finish above Arsenal come the end of the season so none of this really matters does it? Maybe we should be more worried that we made an absolute meal out of beating the footballing powerhouse that is Bournemouth.
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Or Arsenal failing to beat the powerhouse team Southampton.

You can dress it up how you like, but Arsenal have had the easiest start possible. Southampton, Forest and next up Wolves. Does not get any easier.
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Your first line contradicts your point though. You say they've had an easy start but didn't beat Southhampton. I personally don't think there is any such thing as an easy game in the Prem. Anyone can beat anyone on their day so crying about who has the easiest fixture list is a waste of time. It means nothing.
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Spurs have only lost to top five teams, they have beaten all of the so called lesser teams, so there are obviously a lot of very easy teams in the Prem, mostly the teams Arsenal have faced.

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comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Genius of Nielsen (U9059)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 45 seconds ago
We all know it is not just about how you are playing, but just as important ( or favorable ) when you play teams.

Without sounding bias, I am beginning to wonder just how many more teams in the bottom half of he table Arsenal have left to play, given they seem to play one of them every week.

As Sandy has said, just after a poor display and loss in midweek, who wouldn't want the bottom ( and worse ) team in the PL, at home, next up ?

The way the fixtures have been planned ( and yeah, they are planned by the FA ) Arsenal continue to play easy game after easy game right up until January. Next up.....

Wolves ( a ) they are are 19th and so 2nd worst team in the PL.
Chelsea ( a) probably the nearest thing to hard, but how bad were Chelsea over the weekend ? again, nice time to play them.
Brighton ( a ) yeah Brighton can play well, but ultimately won't finish in the top 8.
West Ham ( h ) they are 13th, so yet another bottom 6/7 team.
That takes them ( without raising a sweat ) up to the 3rd January.
Factor in a Europa group made up of teams I have already forgotten their names, coupled with the FA, once again bending over for them with the postponed City game ( a loss pushed back to god knows when ) and a blinding inconsistency when compared with how we were treated last season when we actually had a genuine reason for not being able to fulfill a fixture ( you know, Covid when events with large crowds were illegal ) and you start to get a feel for how easy it all has been for Arsenal.

The only saving grace is, given they have only played one of the recognised 'big 7' - I include Newcastle in this now - away from home so far, which they lost, all these games still have to be played in the new year. So let's see how far they fall away when those games happen.
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Well, we drew with Chelsea (sixth) and West Ham, and squeezed out a 0-1 win against Brighton (eighth) so, I’d argue they are tough fixtures.

They’ve also played Liverpool (ninth) us (third), Fulham (seventh), Palace (tenth) and United (fourth) - winning all of them other than United.

So, after 16 league games that’s seven of the top 10 played, of which they can only play nine, and city was postponed. So they’re pretty much par for the course, no?

Time people start to accept Arsenal are the real deal this season, unfortunately.

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All at home mate, other than United, which they lost. And I never get this nonsense about playing top half teams. Every knows that Liverpool are a top half team, and teams like Fulham and Brighton are not. It`s when you play teams, sometimes good teams can be horribly out of form, and so called poor teams can be on form.
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Everyone has to play everyone. This notion that some teams have had easier starts is utter nonsense. In fact, it's embarrassing. Come the end of the season no one has ever blamed their final league position based on their run of fixtures.

Arsenal are doing well at the moment, we just need to accept it. And why do you even care Sandy? You've told us all that we'll comfortably finish above Arsenal come the end of the season so none of this really matters does it? Maybe we should be more worried that we made an absolute meal out of beating the footballing powerhouse that is Bournemouth.
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Or Arsenal failing to beat the powerhouse team Southampton.

You can dress it up how you like, but Arsenal have had the easiest start possible. Southampton, Forest and next up Wolves. Does not get any easier.
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I'm not sure it's possible to continue dressing this one up. Let's just face it. They're a much better side than they were last year and we've regressed. To not entertain that notion is just plain ridiculous. It smacks of bias.

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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs

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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.

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posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.
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Perhaps.... We have a nice stadium and a great training facility but I don't really see us any closer to actually winning anything. Lets be honest Kane wanted to leave last Summer and probably still does and anyone that does well for us for a year or 2 will likely jump ship at the first sign of RM, City, United etc.

Not really sure we are "a different beast"... same ownership with the same focus on profitability over success..... In 24 hours we'll probably be back in the Europa where we belong.

I know we are all supposed to be optimistic coz we made top 4 and are currently 3rd (like it matters in late October !!) I just can't get excited Spurs this season.

I'm afraid I refuse to look at things through bias Spurs supporting prism.... I don't like what I see right now.. I think we as a team/ squad and Conte as a manager have been found out. We look a poor side right now and I don't see much changing. I have no faith in Levy and Co addressing the mess of the summer in Jan.

I'd break the bank for James Maddison, a decent CB and would start playing Spence (he couldn't possibly be worse than Royal)....Sadly I think Conte, Levy etc are too stubborn to change their mindset

Hope I'm wrong

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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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Spurs were not winning much when players like Gazza, Lineker, Ossie, Klinsman, Villa joined either.

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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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My point really was that Spurs can still attract players. If players only joined clubs that won things, then you would only have a two or three team Prem.

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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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Spurs were not winning much when players like Gazza, Lineker, Ossie, Klinsman, Villa joined either.
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True..... At least we played good football with players like them and their respective managers at the time, TBF.... Ricky, Ossie, Gazza and Lineker all won FA Cups and Jurgen was arguably one of the most exciting signings in the club's history

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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.
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Perhaps.... We have a nice stadium and a great training facility but I don't really see us any closer to actually winning anything. Lets be honest Kane wanted to leave last Summer and probably still does and anyone that does well for us for a year or 2 will likely jump ship at the first sign of RM, City, United etc.

Not really sure we are "a different beast"... same ownership with the same focus on profitability over success..... In 24 hours we'll probably be back in the Europa where we belong.

I know we are all supposed to be optimistic coz we made top 4 and are currently 3rd (like it matters in late October !!) I just can't get excited Spurs this season.

I'm afraid I refuse to look at things through bias Spurs supporting prism.... I don't like what I see right now.. I think we as a team/ squad and Conte as a manager have been found out. We look a poor side right now and I don't see much changing. I have no faith in Levy and Co addressing the mess of the summer in Jan.

I'd break the bank for James Maddison, a decent CB and would start playing Spence (he couldn't possibly be worse than Royal)....Sadly I think Conte, Levy etc are too stubborn to change their mindset

Hope I'm wrong
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100% agree with this and far more diplomatic than I usually am.

I don't think things are going to change though. Jack Pitt Brooke at The Athletic has only this morning posted an article that Conte is about to get a bumper, long term contract so this style of football will continue. That said, if results match performances on a regular basis, it won't change the outcome. Conte will just be gone with a bigger wad of cash in his pocket.

Although Conte is part of the problem, I really don't think we can afford to lose Kane and Son, and losing Conte would undoubtedly accelerate their departure. Imagine this team without those two. It doesn't bear thinking about. We'll end up back in the Steffen Iversen years.

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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.
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Spot on. Some talk as if Spurs are like a third tier team They are a massive attraction to a lot of players, bar those that prostitute themselves around the financially doped clubs, just so they can earn another 50k a week.

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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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My point really was that Spurs can still attract players. If players only joined clubs that won things, then you would only have a two or three team Prem.
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Isn't that what we have.... City, Liverpool and Chelsea now and again over the past 10 years ?

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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.
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Perhaps.... We have a nice stadium and a great training facility but I don't really see us any closer to actually winning anything. Lets be honest Kane wanted to leave last Summer and probably still does and anyone that does well for us for a year or 2 will likely jump ship at the first sign of RM, City, United etc.

Not really sure we are "a different beast"... same ownership with the same focus on profitability over success..... In 24 hours we'll probably be back in the Europa where we belong.

I know we are all supposed to be optimistic coz we made top 4 and are currently 3rd (like it matters in late October !!) I just can't get excited Spurs this season.

I'm afraid I refuse to look at things through bias Spurs supporting prism.... I don't like what I see right now.. I think we as a team/ squad and Conte as a manager have been found out. We look a poor side right now and I don't see much changing. I have no faith in Levy and Co addressing the mess of the summer in Jan.

I'd break the bank for James Maddison, a decent CB and would start playing Spence (he couldn't possibly be worse than Royal)....Sadly I think Conte, Levy etc are too stubborn to change their mindset

Hope I'm wrong
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Maddison I don't rate that highly. I would hope that Spurs set their sights a bit higher.

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The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.
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Spot on. Some talk as if Spurs are like a third tier team They are a massive attraction to a lot of players, bar those that prostitute themselves around the financially doped clubs, just so they can earn another 50k a week.
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Think you'll find every single player in the Prem would "prostitute" themselves for an Extra 50K a week to play for City, Liverpool and Chelsea with the chance of winning something.... Our own beloved Harry Kane was keen.... It all depends on whether they are good enough for the likes of Pep to want them.. Otherwise they end up at clubs like Spurs

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The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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Spurs were not winning much when players like Gazza, Lineker, Ossie, Klinsman, Villa joined either.
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True..... At least we played good football with players like them and their respective managers at the time, TBF.... Ricky, Ossie, Gazza and Lineker all won FA Cups and Jurgen was arguably one of the most exciting signings in the club's history
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They did win FA Cups, but when Ozzie and Ricky joined, Spurs had just come out the 2nd division. Spurs have had a very long history of being able to attract top players, wherever they sit in the league.

City and Chelsea without the money would not have attracted the players Spurs have over the past 70 odd years.

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The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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we are a different beast now though.

When that lot signed we had never even made the UCL. Weve been on that stage a lot since and even made the final and now have Conte as a manager who is pretty high profile. New stadium, England & France Captains.

While money talks and we cannot and will not compete with some teams wages, or the draw of Pep in particular at City, we are not too far down the list of teams that could attract a quality player who is wanting to come to the PL.
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Perhaps.... We have a nice stadium and a great training facility but I don't really see us any closer to actually winning anything. Lets be honest Kane wanted to leave last Summer and probably still does and anyone that does well for us for a year or 2 will likely jump ship at the first sign of RM, City, United etc.

Not really sure we are "a different beast"... same ownership with the same focus on profitability over success..... In 24 hours we'll probably be back in the Europa where we belong.

I know we are all supposed to be optimistic coz we made top 4 and are currently 3rd (like it matters in late October !!) I just can't get excited Spurs this season.

I'm afraid I refuse to look at things through bias Spurs supporting prism.... I don't like what I see right now.. I think we as a team/ squad and Conte as a manager have been found out. We look a poor side right now and I don't see much changing. I have no faith in Levy and Co addressing the mess of the summer in Jan.

I'd break the bank for James Maddison, a decent CB and would start playing Spence (he couldn't possibly be worse than Royal)....Sadly I think Conte, Levy etc are too stubborn to change their mindset

Hope I'm wrong
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Maddison I don't rate that highly. I would hope that Spurs set their sights a bit higher.
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who do you like mate ? Do you agree some kind of No 10/ attacking midfielder would make a difference ?

I'll probably get shot down in Flames but If we could ever ditch 3 at the back, Id like to see Kulu play as a 10. I think he's our most creative player, can see a pass, Presses high up and can shoot from distance

******************Hugo*****************
***Spence**Romero**Dier**Sess***
|***********PEH***Bentancur****
******Richie****Kulu****Son****
*****************Kane***************

Probably far too attacking for Conte, but I'd like to see it

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The problem is, whether you're Conte in or out, we all agree the squad needs improving and we won't be able to do that as well if we drop out of the CL, Sandy. As much as we might have a better chance at winning the Europa (although Barca I think are in it), how can we get the likes of Bastoni without the lure of a CL campaign?
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Spurs may be back in the CL next season, so not overly worried if they drop out this season. Spurs can still attract decent players, whether they are in or out of CL. Arsenal and United are not in the CL this season, but they can still attract good players.
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TBF.. United pay stupid money in wages & fee's and Arsenal signed quality players who knew Arteta ( & Pay big wages)... Not sure either are a good comparison to Spurs. Oh yeah both have won a lot more than 1 Carling Cup in the past 30 years
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Spurs can still sign decent players was the point I was making, not which clubs had won what in the past 30 years.

Spurs in my 62 years of support, have always been able to attract decent players, so not overly worried whether they play CL or not.

Didn't players like Bale, Modric, Berbatov all turn up without CL on offer?


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I would say the quality players that you listed above were the exception not the rule. Ex Berba, none of them won anything at Spurs and all of the above used Spurs as a stepping stone to bigger & better things. None of them were in their prime when they joined Spurs
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My point really was that Spurs can still attract players. If players only joined clubs that won things, then you would only have a two or three team Prem.
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Isn't that what we have.... City, Liverpool and Chelsea now and again over the past 10 years ?
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Well no, we have a 19 team league. That only a couple of clubs actually win it, shows plenty of players are happy to go to other clubs, never to win a bean.

Some of the misery of our fans is beyond funny.

Best start to a season since the 60s and some are on the verge of suicide! Wetting their pants when we sit 3rd and remain in all comps.

Jeez imagine the if we actually sat 10 points further back like Liverpool!

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Some of the misery of our fans is beyond funny.

Best start to a season since the 60s and some are on the verge of suicide! Wetting their pants when we sit 3rd and remain in all comps.

Jeez imagine theif we actually sat 10 points further back like Liverpool!
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It's how you finish, not how you start

If we win 7 of the next 10 then all well and good but if we lose 7 of the next 10 then being 3rd on Oct 31st aint gonna mean much.... It's more a brodbased debate....We're all happy with the points total so far but there's also stuff than concerns & that's worth a discussion

If you have no concerns about Spurs.. Good for you

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We all know it is not just about how you are playing, but just as important ( or favorable ) when you play teams.

Without sounding bias, I am beginning to wonder just how many more teams in the bottom half of he table Arsenal have left to play, given they seem to play one of them every week.

As Sandy has said, just after a poor display and loss in midweek, who wouldn't want the bottom ( and worse ) team in the PL, at home, next up ?

The way the fixtures have been planned ( and yeah, they are planned by the FA ) Arsenal continue to play easy game after easy game right up until January. Next up.....

Wolves ( a ) they are are 19th and so 2nd worst team in the PL.
Chelsea ( a) probably the nearest thing to hard, but how bad were Chelsea over the weekend ? again, nice time to play them.
Brighton ( a ) yeah Brighton can play well, but ultimately won't finish in the top 8.
West Ham ( h ) they are 13th, so yet another bottom 6/7 team.
That takes them ( without raising a sweat ) up to the 3rd January.
Factor in a Europa group made up of teams I have already forgotten their names, coupled with the FA, once again bending over for them with the postponed City game ( a loss pushed back to god knows when ) and a blinding inconsistency when compared with how we were treated last season when we actually had a genuine reason for not being able to fulfill a fixture ( you know, Covid when events with large crowds were illegal ) and you start to get a feel for how easy it all has been for Arsenal.

The only saving grace is, given they have only played one of the recognised 'big 7' - I include Newcastle in this now - away from home so far, which they lost, all these games still have to be played in the new year. So let's see how far they fall away when those games happen.
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Well, we drew with Chelsea (sixth) and West Ham, and squeezed out a 0-1 win against Brighton (eighth) so, I’d argue they are tough fixtures.

They’ve also played Liverpool (ninth) us (third), Fulham (seventh), Palace (tenth) and United (fourth) - winning all of them other than United.

So, after 16 league games that’s seven of the top 10 played, of which they can only play nine, and city was postponed. So they’re pretty much par for the course, no?

Time people start to accept Arsenal are the real deal this season, unfortunately.

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All at home mate, other than United, which they lost. And I never get this nonsense about playing top half teams. Every knows that Liverpool are a top half team, and teams like Fulham and Brighton are not. It`s when you play teams, sometimes good teams can be horribly out of form, and so called poor teams can be on form.
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Everyone has to play everyone. This notion that some teams have had easier starts is utter nonsense. In fact, it's embarrassing. Come the end of the season no one has ever blamed their final league position based on their run of fixtures.

Arsenal are doing well at the moment, we just need to accept it. And why do you even care Sandy? You've told us all that we'll comfortably finish above Arsenal come the end of the season so none of this really matters does it? Maybe we should be more worried that we made an absolute meal out of beating the footballing powerhouse that is Bournemouth.
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Or Arsenal failing to beat the powerhouse team Southampton.

You can dress it up how you like, but Arsenal have had the easiest start possible. Southampton, Forest and next up Wolves. Does not get any easier.
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Your first line contradicts your point though. You say they've had an easy start but didn't beat Southhampton. I personally don't think there is any such thing as an easy game in the Prem. Anyone can beat anyone on their day so crying about who has the easiest fixture list is a waste of time. It means nothing.
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Spurs have only lost to top five teams, they have beaten all of the so called lesser teams, so there are obviously a lot of very easy teams in the Prem, mostly the teams Arsenal have faced.
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We have lost and will possibly lose AWAY to the traditional Top 6 teams so what if we take care of the east games as you say.

Look at it this way you will probably lose against Liverpool at home this weekend, we didn’t. Think Chelsea, United and Westham will also take points at your gaff. They won’t at ours but you will still complain all season until game 38.

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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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Some of the misery of our fans is beyond funny.

Best start to a season since the 60s and some are on the verge of suicide! Wetting their pants when we sit 3rd and remain in all comps.

Jeez imagine theif we actually sat 10 points further back like Liverpool!
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Weird comment seeing as we've started strongly and some (you included) are all down in the dumps despite us being a long way from the finish.

Started well but prejudged that we will finish poorly!

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Some of the misery of our fans is beyond funny.

Best start to a season since the 60s and some are on the verge of suicide! Wetting their pants when we sit 3rd and remain in all comps.

Jeez imagine theif we actually sat 10 points further back like Liverpool!
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Spurs usually finish well. So all good.

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comment by SteveF (U22027)
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We all know it is not just about how you are playing, but just as important ( or favorable ) when you play teams.

Without sounding bias, I am beginning to wonder just how many more teams in the bottom half of he table Arsenal have left to play, given they seem to play one of them every week.

As Sandy has said, just after a poor display and loss in midweek, who wouldn't want the bottom ( and worse ) team in the PL, at home, next up ?

The way the fixtures have been planned ( and yeah, they are planned by the FA ) Arsenal continue to play easy game after easy game right up until January. Next up.....

Wolves ( a ) they are are 19th and so 2nd worst team in the PL.
Chelsea ( a) probably the nearest thing to hard, but how bad were Chelsea over the weekend ? again, nice time to play them.
Brighton ( a ) yeah Brighton can play well, but ultimately won't finish in the top 8.
West Ham ( h ) they are 13th, so yet another bottom 6/7 team.
That takes them ( without raising a sweat ) up to the 3rd January.
Factor in a Europa group made up of teams I have already forgotten their names, coupled with the FA, once again bending over for them with the postponed City game ( a loss pushed back to god knows when ) and a blinding inconsistency when compared with how we were treated last season when we actually had a genuine reason for not being able to fulfill a fixture ( you know, Covid when events with large crowds were illegal ) and you start to get a feel for how easy it all has been for Arsenal.

The only saving grace is, given they have only played one of the recognised 'big 7' - I include Newcastle in this now - away from home so far, which they lost, all these games still have to be played in the new year. So let's see how far they fall away when those games happen.
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Well, we drew with Chelsea (sixth) and West Ham, and squeezed out a 0-1 win against Brighton (eighth) so, I’d argue they are tough fixtures.

They’ve also played Liverpool (ninth) us (third), Fulham (seventh), Palace (tenth) and United (fourth) - winning all of them other than United.

So, after 16 league games that’s seven of the top 10 played, of which they can only play nine, and city was postponed. So they’re pretty much par for the course, no?

Time people start to accept Arsenal are the real deal this season, unfortunately.

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All at home mate, other than United, which they lost. And I never get this nonsense about playing top half teams. Every knows that Liverpool are a top half team, and teams like Fulham and Brighton are not. It`s when you play teams, sometimes good teams can be horribly out of form, and so called poor teams can be on form.
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Everyone has to play everyone. This notion that some teams have had easier starts is utter nonsense. In fact, it's embarrassing. Come the end of the season no one has ever blamed their final league position based on their run of fixtures.

Arsenal are doing well at the moment, we just need to accept it. And why do you even care Sandy? You've told us all that we'll comfortably finish above Arsenal come the end of the season so none of this really matters does it? Maybe we should be more worried that we made an absolute meal out of beating the footballing powerhouse that is Bournemouth.
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Or Arsenal failing to beat the powerhouse team Southampton.

You can dress it up how you like, but Arsenal have had the easiest start possible. Southampton, Forest and next up Wolves. Does not get any easier.
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Your first line contradicts your point though. You say they've had an easy start but didn't beat Southhampton. I personally don't think there is any such thing as an easy game in the Prem. Anyone can beat anyone on their day so crying about who has the easiest fixture list is a waste of time. It means nothing.
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Spurs have only lost to top five teams, they have beaten all of the so called lesser teams, so there are obviously a lot of very easy teams in the Prem, mostly the teams Arsenal have faced.
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We have lost and will possibly lose AWAY to the traditional Top 6 teams so what if we take care of the east games as you say.

Look at it this way you will probably lose against Liverpool at home this weekend, we didn’t. Think Chelsea, United and Westham will also take points at your gaff. They won’t at ours but you will still complain all season until game 38.
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Hiw do you know Arsenal won't drop points to those teams. You are also guaranteed to lose to any decent side away from home, including Spurs

You do realise up until the North London Derby the average league position for your opponent was 14th and ours was 11th so this talk of us having an easier run is just a myth. Even if it was true the same logic could be applied to your home fixtures, you had played no one until you came up against a half decent side in Newcastle and you lost.