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posted on 30/1/23



I posed a question. I didn’t make a statement.

As said, we have a framework we can borrow from a place right next door to us that seems to work fine. We’re now moving into how can we do it ‘legally’.

Take a break, man.

posted on 30/1/23

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted less than a minute ago
Your all over the place mate, there are countless call of both conscious and unconscious biased hence this debate for a startπŸ‘
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im all over the palce?? I have no specific view i can see the positives and the negatives.

People seem to think there are no negatives to it and because I pose them you just automatically assue its my POV o the side im taking

posted on 30/1/23

It’s perfectly legal do you think they are breaking the law in England? You want to be a top tier ref your contract says you declare your team if you don’t want to find we won’t employ you that’s perfectly legal

posted on 30/1/23

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted less than a minute ago


I posed a question. I didn’t make a statement.

As said, we have a framework we can borrow from a place right next door to us that seems to work fine. We’re now moving into how can we do it ‘legally’.

Take a break, man.
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quote me where I have said i am for or against it.....

stop assuming im against it purely on the basis of me supporting rangers.

d just take on board the possible problems it cold also pose rather than just assume it will be all rosey

posted on 30/1/23

‘Given that the most likely scenario of cup finals will involve ranges or celtic they would also be ruling themselves out of those games.’

And?! So, you know as you start your career that you’ll never referee a final with Celtic in it if you’re a Celtic fan. That doesn’t mean you’ll never referee a final though. The odds are against you anyway, as only 1 ref can do it.

This is crazy.

posted on 30/1/23

Ok sorry would you be for it ?

posted on 30/1/23

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted less than a minute ago
‘Given that the most likely scenario of cup finals will involve ranges or celtic they would also be ruling themselves out of those games.’

And?! So, you know as you start your career that you’ll never referee a final with Celtic in it if you’re a Celtic fan. That doesn’t mean you’ll never referee a final though. The odds are against you anyway, as only 1 ref can do it.

This is crazy.
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plenty of refs have already started their career

posted on 30/1/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted less than a minute ago


I posed a question. I didn’t make a statement.

As said, we have a framework we can borrow from a place right next door to us that seems to work fine. We’re now moving into how can we do it ‘legally’.

Take a break, man.
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quote me where I have said i am for or against it.....

stop assuming im against it purely on the basis of me supporting rangers.

d just take on board the possible problems it cold also pose rather than just assume it will be all rosey
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Again-I asked a question-I didn’t make a statement. Where have I said you’re against it?

posted on 30/1/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted less than a minute ago
‘Given that the most likely scenario of cup finals will involve ranges or celtic they would also be ruling themselves out of those games.’

And?! So, you know as you start your career that you’ll never referee a final with Celtic in it if you’re a Celtic fan. That doesn’t mean you’ll never referee a final though. The odds are against you anyway, as only 1 ref can do it.

This is crazy.
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plenty of refs have already started their career
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Then tough. How many of them will ever get to that level anyway?

Again-let’s pose another roadblock…

posted on 30/1/23

Would you be in favour of it?

posted on 30/1/23

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted less than a minute ago
Ok sorry would you be for it ?
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I dont care ... I dont think it would change matters much.

I can see the good and the bad.

I would need more info on the things I have raised to have a proper side on it I reckon

posted on 30/1/23

I am 100% that’s my opinion

posted on 30/1/23

So around about way of saying noπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ffs just say no I am not in favour it’s allowed πŸ˜‚

posted on 30/1/23

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted less than a minute ago
‘Given that the most likely scenario of cup finals will involve ranges or celtic they would also be ruling themselves out of those games.’

And?! So, you know as you start your career that you’ll never referee a final with Celtic in it if you’re a Celtic fan. That doesn’t mean you’ll never referee a final though. The odds are against you anyway, as only 1 ref can do it.

This is crazy.
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plenty of refs have already started their career
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Then tough. How many of them will ever get to that level anyway?

Again-let’s pose another roadblock…
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"tough"

yeah I cant see why people would then lie or be dishonest n the team they support.

posted on 30/1/23

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted less than a minute ago
So around about way of saying noπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ffs just say no I am not in favour it’s allowed πŸ˜‚
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no I will say it once more i have no side to take. I can see the arguements for both sides.

i am against neither at the moment. I can see the benefits, I can see why refs would wanna lie about their team.

posted on 30/1/23

right now as things stand without enough info to decide it would overall benefits us or not.

I would go with the majority

posted on 30/1/23

Why would they lie they would be outed in minutes πŸ‘

posted on 30/1/23

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/02/sports/basketball/02refs.html

Link to study in unconscious bias

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1974892-previously-established-racial-bias-in-nba-officiating-has-vanished-study-says.amp.html

Link to study that after addressing unconscious bias, improvements came.

posted on 30/1/23

If for instance I became a ref, there are 100s of people, my internet history, posts, photos etc.. and so on that would allow anyone to say quite correctly, fook off he is not a Hamilton fan for instance πŸ˜‚

posted on 30/1/23

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted less than a minute ago
Why would they lie they would be outed in minutes πŸ‘
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ok so how do you prove that someone doesnt have a team they just love football and say rangers are their local team... so the games they go to most?

thats what im saying how do you prove he is fan of that specific club? FWIW I dont have a single picture of me at a game I dont think . at least one that is accesible for the public or any other.
(granted im a weirdo who doesnt do fudbook or twatter)

posted on 30/1/23

Surely the poor quality of refereeing at the moment is would invalidate a position supporting things staying as they are, with no transparency, no acknowledge of unconscious bias, no steps to build trust with supporters who, unlike in England where it’s TV money, actually fund the game to a large degree.

posted on 30/1/23

Ffs mate, 1000 posts on here prove your a bear it’s not rocket science , people leave a footprint of their lives everywhere they go.

posted on 30/1/23

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted 2 minutes ago
If for instance I became a ref, there are 100s of people, my internet history, posts, photos etc.. and so on that would allow anyone to say quite correctly, fook off he is not a Hamilton fan for instance πŸ˜‚
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but you could say your just a fan of football.

anyway that logic is flawed

your celtic fan?? internet history:

follow follow, ibroxnoise, official rangers press conferences ..... wait a minute?!

posted on 30/1/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted less than a minute ago
Why would they lie they would be outed in minutes πŸ‘
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ok so how do you prove that someone doesnt have a team they just love football and say rangers are their local team... so the games they go to most?

thats what im saying how do you prove he is fan of that specific club? FWIW I dont have a single picture of me at a game I dont think . at least one that is accesible for the public or any other.
(granted im a weirdo who doesnt do fudbook or twatter)
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But they would have your posting history here, which clearly has you as a rangers fan. Unless you’d lie and say you’re not in any fan forums?

posted on 30/1/23

comment by Lexballielegend (U22945)
posted about a minute ago
Ffs mate, 1000 posts on here prove your a bear it’s not rocket science , people leave a footprint of their lives everywhere they go.
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naw there is no way you can link whosdunnit to me no way in hell ... and certainly no way in hell the SFA or whoever could prove it !!

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