comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
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I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
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But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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But you’re saying it’s no different whether asylum seekers or UK nationals move to the area, so it’s irrelevant.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
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I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
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But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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But you’re saying it’s no different whether asylum seekers or UK nationals move to the area, so it’s irrelevant.
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No, because It's not inevitable that 300-400 UK nationals will move here In place of the asylum seekers due to be placed here.
Id be very interested to hear from the guy who said a similar situation arose in his area 👍🏻
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Wow this new poster is totally not racist and therefore definitely not RDD. Welcome mate.
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Thanks. Hopefully Rob can gove.me.a fair crack also. 👍🏻
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
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There you go, you've just stated the outcome of the social impact of high levels of immigration, massive amounts of friction and not just here.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-failed-integration-immigrants-gang-violence-b2067626.html
Lots of rhetoric, moralising, and demonising on here but never any solutions.
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Something similar happened not far from me, and it didn’t end well. Diafol would confirm also, I’m sure.
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Hi Babyen. Do you mean the Hilton in Dolgarrog? If you went by the likes of North Wales Live and Wales Online then you'd think people were horrified but, to be honest, the vast majority of people I know in that area (I'm around 12 miles away) didn't seem to be that bothered. That's not to say some weren't bothered of course but the mood on the ground wasn't as bad in my experience as what the media would have us believe.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Something similar happened not far from me, and it didn’t end well. Diafol would confirm also, I’m sure.
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Hi Babyen. Do you mean the Hilton in Dolgarrog? If you went by the likes of North Wales Live and Wales Online then you'd think people were horrified but, to be honest, the vast majority of people I know in that area (I'm around 12 miles away) didn't seem to be that bothered. That's not to say some weren't bothered of course but the mood on the ground wasn't as bad in my experience as what the media would have us believe.
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That’s the one.
Local schools had a load of trouble with that one.
comment by Sheik It Al About (U22987)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
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I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
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But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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What I wouldn't do is deny thousands of men, women and children the chance to build a good life simply because a dozen among them might be prone to criminal behaviour, something that's natural amongst any group of human beings.
It's like how there will always be racists in society, but you can't treat a whole group of people differently just because some among them might be racist. I hate stereotypes.
Local schools had a load of trouble with that one.
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Oooh, local schools had some trouble? Whatever shall we do?!?!? We are so sorry about that. How dare they!!!
How many houses and schools did Turkey, Kenya, South Africa and many other countries across the world have before having absolutely no choice but to take in millions of refugees from neighbouring countries on their third world budgets, and don't half moan as much as we do?
And who bears responsibility for the current global refugee crisis, cost of food, fuel etc? It's the same guy that's moaning the loudest about immigrants and asylum seekers. Guess it's OK to sell bombs, invade and sabotage other countries and rob the world blind of it's resources, but can't handle 50k immigration a year.
The koksuckers.
Let's instead vote for Boris Johnson who will take away trade and job opportunities and financial aid that we give to poor countries that are constantly taking in refugees from crisis that can often be linked back to us.
Genius koksuckers
comment by Sheik It Al About (U22987)
posted 6 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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But you’re saying it’s no different whether asylum seekers or UK nationals move to the area, so it’s irrelevant.
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No, because It's not inevitable that 300-400 UK nationals will move here In place of the asylum seekers due to be placed here.
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Of course it is.
Where there’s housing / accommodation, there will be people. The shortage guarantees that.
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by DEY TERKER JERBS (U21588)
posted 35 minutes ago
Yeah I work construction and work with a lot of fine men who have families to feed. Now I don't know about y'all but we worked long and hard to get our pay up to a level where we could make a decent living.
Now these people showing up and offering to do the same work for next to nothing. They took are job dey terker jerbs
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DERKER DERBS!
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Goobacks
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Yeah I work construction and work with a lot of fine men who have families to feed. Now I don't know about y'all but we worked long and hard to get our pay up to a level where we could make a decent living.
Now these people showing up and offering to do the same work for next to nothing. They took are job dey terker jerbs
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So you had to work long and hard to get to a level where an immigrant can just come in from a war torn country and immediately take your job from you?
Makes sense.
Hotel down the road from me is used to house refugees. Often cut through the grounds. The people you see just look miserable and bored. Not aware that they have ever caused anyone problems.
Everybody back in the pile.
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 6 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Something similar happened not far from me, and it didn’t end well. Diafol would confirm also, I’m sure.
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Hi Babyen. Do you mean the Hilton in Dolgarrog? If you went by the likes of North Wales Live and Wales Online then you'd think people were horrified but, to be honest, the vast majority of people I know in that area (I'm around 12 miles away) didn't seem to be that bothered. That's not to say some weren't bothered of course but the mood on the ground wasn't as bad in my experience as what the media would have us believe.
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That’s the one.
Local schools had a load of trouble with that one.
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Didn't hear that. What kind of trouble did they get? Hopefully not too bad. Apart from the usual stirring from the usual suspects I didn't hear anything bad.
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
TK A DRRR
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 10 hours, 36 minutes ago
Wow this new poster is totally not racist and therefore definitely not RDD. Welcome mate.
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comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Sheik It Al About (U22987)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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What I wouldn't do is deny thousands of men, women and children the chance to build a good life simply because a dozen among them might be prone to criminal behaviour, something that's natural amongst any group of human beings.
It's like how there will always be racists in society, but you can't treat a whole group of people differently just because some among them might be racist. I hate stereotypes.
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LOL
I go back to my first post. The governments role is to provide housing, education and health care for all. I doesn't.
Of course refugees should be allowed here, and we should have some spare capacity to look after them.
What's proposed here is unfair on local people, and therefore the immigrants who aren't going to be welcomed
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posted on 10/4/23
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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But you’re saying it’s no different whether asylum seekers or UK nationals move to the area, so it’s irrelevant.
posted on 10/4/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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But you’re saying it’s no different whether asylum seekers or UK nationals move to the area, so it’s irrelevant.
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No, because It's not inevitable that 300-400 UK nationals will move here In place of the asylum seekers due to be placed here.
posted on 10/4/23
Id be very interested to hear from the guy who said a similar situation arose in his area 👍🏻
posted on 10/4/23
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Wow this new poster is totally not racist and therefore definitely not RDD. Welcome mate.
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Thanks. Hopefully Rob can gove.me.a fair crack also. 👍🏻
posted on 10/4/23
Give. Damn Trampsung.
posted on 10/4/23
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There you go, you've just stated the outcome of the social impact of high levels of immigration, massive amounts of friction and not just here.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-failed-integration-immigrants-gang-violence-b2067626.html
Lots of rhetoric, moralising, and demonising on here but never any solutions.
posted on 11/4/23
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Something similar happened not far from me, and it didn’t end well. Diafol would confirm also, I’m sure.
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Hi Babyen. Do you mean the Hilton in Dolgarrog? If you went by the likes of North Wales Live and Wales Online then you'd think people were horrified but, to be honest, the vast majority of people I know in that area (I'm around 12 miles away) didn't seem to be that bothered. That's not to say some weren't bothered of course but the mood on the ground wasn't as bad in my experience as what the media would have us believe.
posted on 11/4/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Something similar happened not far from me, and it didn’t end well. Diafol would confirm also, I’m sure.
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Hi Babyen. Do you mean the Hilton in Dolgarrog? If you went by the likes of North Wales Live and Wales Online then you'd think people were horrified but, to be honest, the vast majority of people I know in that area (I'm around 12 miles away) didn't seem to be that bothered. That's not to say some weren't bothered of course but the mood on the ground wasn't as bad in my experience as what the media would have us believe.
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That’s the one.
Local schools had a load of trouble with that one.
posted on 11/4/23
comment by Sheik It Al About (U22987)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What I wouldn't do is deny thousands of men, women and children the chance to build a good life simply because a dozen among them might be prone to criminal behaviour, something that's natural amongst any group of human beings.
It's like how there will always be racists in society, but you can't treat a whole group of people differently just because some among them might be racist. I hate stereotypes.
posted on 11/4/23
Local schools had a load of trouble with that one.
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Oooh, local schools had some trouble? Whatever shall we do?!?!? We are so sorry about that. How dare they!!!
posted on 11/4/23
How many houses and schools did Turkey, Kenya, South Africa and many other countries across the world have before having absolutely no choice but to take in millions of refugees from neighbouring countries on their third world budgets, and don't half moan as much as we do?
And who bears responsibility for the current global refugee crisis, cost of food, fuel etc? It's the same guy that's moaning the loudest about immigrants and asylum seekers. Guess it's OK to sell bombs, invade and sabotage other countries and rob the world blind of it's resources, but can't handle 50k immigration a year.
The koksuckers.
posted on 11/4/23
Let's instead vote for Boris Johnson who will take away trade and job opportunities and financial aid that we give to poor countries that are constantly taking in refugees from crisis that can often be linked back to us.
Genius koksuckers
posted on 11/4/23
comment by Sheik It Al About (U22987)
posted 6 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
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But you’re saying it’s no different whether asylum seekers or UK nationals move to the area, so it’s irrelevant.
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No, because It's not inevitable that 300-400 UK nationals will move here In place of the asylum seekers due to be placed here.
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Of course it is.
Where there’s housing / accommodation, there will be people. The shortage guarantees that.
posted on 11/4/23
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 7 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by DEY TERKER JERBS (U21588)
posted 35 minutes ago
Yeah I work construction and work with a lot of fine men who have families to feed. Now I don't know about y'all but we worked long and hard to get our pay up to a level where we could make a decent living.
Now these people showing up and offering to do the same work for next to nothing. They took are job dey terker jerbs
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DERKER DERBS!
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Goobacks
posted on 11/4/23
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Yeah I work construction and work with a lot of fine men who have families to feed. Now I don't know about y'all but we worked long and hard to get our pay up to a level where we could make a decent living.
Now these people showing up and offering to do the same work for next to nothing. They took are job dey terker jerbs
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So you had to work long and hard to get to a level where an immigrant can just come in from a war torn country and immediately take your job from you?
Makes sense.
posted on 11/4/23
Hotel down the road from me is used to house refugees. Often cut through the grounds. The people you see just look miserable and bored. Not aware that they have ever caused anyone problems.
posted on 11/4/23
TK A DRRR
posted on 11/4/23
Everybody back in the pile.
posted on 11/4/23
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 6 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by 🏴 (U9094)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
Something similar happened not far from me, and it didn’t end well. Diafol would confirm also, I’m sure.
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Hi Babyen. Do you mean the Hilton in Dolgarrog? If you went by the likes of North Wales Live and Wales Online then you'd think people were horrified but, to be honest, the vast majority of people I know in that area (I'm around 12 miles away) didn't seem to be that bothered. That's not to say some weren't bothered of course but the mood on the ground wasn't as bad in my experience as what the media would have us believe.
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That’s the one.
Local schools had a load of trouble with that one.
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Didn't hear that. What kind of trouble did they get? Hopefully not too bad. Apart from the usual stirring from the usual suspects I didn't hear anything bad.
posted on 11/4/23
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
TK A DRRR
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posted on 11/4/23
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 10 hours, 36 minutes ago
Wow this new poster is totally not racist and therefore definitely not RDD. Welcome mate.
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posted on 11/4/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Sheik It Al About (U22987)
posted 5 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sheik an Vac (U22987)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
Because the media / Nigel Farage has persuaded lots of people that asylum seekers are people to be feared and hated… rapists, murderers, freeloaders etc.
The fact that the truth is nowhere close to that is neither here nor there, apparently.
The ‘us and them’ stage of fascism is well and truly under way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we all need to be honest enough to admit that inevitably, there will be bad apples amongst these groups, like any other group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But if it’s proportionate then it’s not relevant.
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Hmmmm. Not sure about that. Would you welcome dozens of 'murderers, rapists or freeloaders' yo your local area because there are already some within the indigenous population?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What I wouldn't do is deny thousands of men, women and children the chance to build a good life simply because a dozen among them might be prone to criminal behaviour, something that's natural amongst any group of human beings.
It's like how there will always be racists in society, but you can't treat a whole group of people differently just because some among them might be racist. I hate stereotypes.
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LOL
posted on 11/4/23
tkrdrr
posted on 11/4/23
I go back to my first post. The governments role is to provide housing, education and health care for all. I doesn't.
Of course refugees should be allowed here, and we should have some spare capacity to look after them.
What's proposed here is unfair on local people, and therefore the immigrants who aren't going to be welcomed
posted on 11/4/23
COKADOODLEDOOO
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