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posted on 16/9/23

Unbelievable how we can do so well for 45 minutes and should have been at least 2-0 at half time and then capitulate in the next 45. Plus, how the feck did Cunha miss that chance?
Totally different side second half and fair play to Klopp, who changed things. Ran out of steam in the end, but I do like the look of Bellegarde.

posted on 16/9/23

Entirely predictable at half time unfortunately. Not one we expected to get anything from, but we'll come away disappointed with the loss after having control of the game first half.

posted on 16/9/23

there was a sense of inevitability we should have had at least 4 first half, incredibly frustrating

posted on 16/9/23

The first 45 minutes were the best I’ve seen for a good while. 2nd half yes Liverpool were better but we just stopped playing. Thought Neto was as good as I’ve seen him since his injury, and the new guy looks promising. We’ll be fine for the next home game . . . Oh wait

posted on 16/9/23

In view of all the goals we're conceding, I think it's time for a change at CB. Both Dawson and Kilman look very slow.

posted on 16/9/23

Fabulous first half performance where we were by far the better team and deserved to be at least one ahead, maybe more. Pretty inevitable that Liverpool were going to be a different team second half and they bossed the game after the break and Salah produced the magic to create a couple..

We needed to make subs to give us fresh legs but not sure they helped us much. Certainly bringing Doherty in on the right wing seemed pointless and didn’t help us at all. Fabio worked hard without getting anywhere, but Doyle showed promise.

But we shouldn’t forget how well we played first half where we looked a million miles from a relegation team. Every player did well with Semedo making great runs down the right and Bellegarde and Neto linking great on the left, and Cunha making great runs down the centre. But Gomes was Wolves best player to me. Won countless tackles, passed well and made good runs forward. A star in the making

posted on 16/9/23

Proper game of two halves but as Tam said entirely predictable. We were first to everything in the first half, Liverpool looked asleep and complacent and we really took advantage but again we don't make enough of the chances created and suffer as a result. How Cunha doesn't put that open goal away is baffling. In fact Hwang's goal was probably the most difficult chance we had and he did well to put that one away.

Diaz, Elliott and Nunez brought so much energy to Liverpool game though and we were out on our feet by then.

Impressed though with Bellegarde, a really positive player, looked to turn and head towards the opposition goal at every opportunity. Gomes too outstanding and Neto back to his best. Bringing Doherty on on the right wing didn't work either offensively or defensively, I can perhaps see what O'Neil was thinking but it work. Silva ineffective when he came on. In fact none of our subs impacted the game in complete contrast to Liverpools.

Probably the result we expected but frustrating in the circumstances.

posted on 16/9/23

I can see why Doherty was brought on. Hwang was losing Robertson every attack in the second half and GON needed to so something to try to remedy that. If anything, we waited too long to make that change.

posted on 16/9/23

Doherty contributed nothing in attack or defence and didn’t track Robertson back once. And Robertson got forward to get the key goal. To me it was a pointless change.

posted on 16/9/23

Yeah, you lot needed to be more than 1 goal up after putting in that effort first half. Really impressed with Oneil again though he looks decent and a top guy too. Was an underrated player imo aswell. Think you will be alright under him, gets you up for games like he did today first half you'll be fine even with big players lost. Back him in jan.

posted on 16/9/23

Liverpool went up a gear after the break after looking pretty lethargic first half. Although our game had something to do with that. In the second period I was really impressed with Harvey Elliott and playing Salah in an inside right rather than wide right position was also key

posted on 16/9/23

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 31 minutes ago
Doherty contributed nothing in attack or defence and didn’t track Robertson back once. And Robertson got forward to get the key goal. To me it was a pointless change.
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Robertson's goal didn't come from our right hand side though. It came from the poor kick from Sa after a corner and him running through the middle to score from the opposite side in the box. There was no way for Doherty to affect that.

Doherty wasn't effective on the ball going forwards, but I don't think anyone was in the second half. He did slow Robertson on the left (saying he didn't track him once is a ridiculous statement). It was a negative change to bring him on, I'd have brought on Sarabia instead. A change needed to be made though as Hwang and run out of steam and wasn't tracking runners.

posted on 16/9/23

Doherty didn’t track Robertson once. I would have brought Sarabia on too. We needed someone to hold possession for us in the Liverpool half which Sarabia has the ability to do.

posted on 16/9/23

posted on 16/9/23

There are a lot of positives to take from this game, but we said that against Man Utd, only to play badly the next game.

When you are on top for such long periods as we were in the first half and being a goal up, you have to get another one to give yourself a little bit of a cushion. Unfortunately Cunha is not an out and out CF and his miss highlights that. Neto is getting back to his best and if he continues in that vein then we need a CF who can benefit from his crosses. Sasa must be the one to do that, if he's up to speed.

Our central defence is very fragile at the moment and I believe it's time for a change. Whether we switch to a back 3 or bring in Toti in place of either Dawson or Kilman, it's something that needs to be addressed.

I thought Semedo had a good game, but again he prefers to be an attacking player and he showed some of that today. Doherty was pretty ineffective and Hwang didn't track back enough and was the reason he was withdrawn, I fancy.

I like the look of Bellegarde, who can get better when he's up to speed. He faded somewhat and not surprised he came off. Even Ait-Nouri did better at LB and Neto seems to be back to his best, even though he wasn't as effective in the second half. But that was due to the changes Klopp made at HT.

So overall, this is not a side that will be looking at relegation, as I'm sure, when O'Neil get's his squad up to full speed, we'll see an improvement and a mid table finish.

posted on 16/9/23

comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted about a minute ago
There are a lot of positives to take from this game, but we said that against Man Utd, only to play badly the next game.

When you are on top for such long periods as we were in the first half and being a goal up, you have to get another one to give yourself a little bit of a cushion. Unfortunately Cunha is not an out and out CF and his miss highlights that. Neto is getting back to his best and if he continues in that vein then we need a CF who can benefit from his crosses. Sasa must be the one to do that, if he's up to speed.

Our central defence is very fragile at the moment and I believe it's time for a change. Whether we switch to a back 3 or bring in Toti in place of either Dawson or Kilman, it's something that needs to be addressed.

I thought Semedo had a good game, but again he prefers to be an attacking player and he showed some of that today. Doherty was pretty ineffective and Hwang didn't track back enough and was the reason he was withdrawn, I fancy.

I like the look of Bellegarde, who can get better when he's up to speed. He faded somewhat and not surprised he came off. Even Ait-Nouri did better at LB and Neto seems to be back to his best, even though he wasn't as effective in the second half. But that was due to the changes Klopp made at HT.

So overall, this is not a side that will be looking at relegation, as I'm sure, when O'Neil get's his squad up to full speed, we'll see an improvement and a mid table finish.
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I think it is only a matter of time before the new Bueno starts at the back. Whether it will be a three or two CB set up will be the question.

posted on 16/9/23

Seems like it is time to give Sasa a start as well.

posted on 16/9/23

If we had played Sasa today, I don't think we are as effective in the first half. Our first half success came from the energy and pressing high. We were cutting off passing lanes and winning first balls across the pitch with high energy. Cunha was a big part of that and allowed us to press from the front.

Sasa isn't as mobile, so it's difficult to see how he fits. Hwang is the only one you could drop for him, but he is also scoring. It would also mean moving Bellegarde or Neto to the right, which loses that connection they had. I don't think Neto is as effective on the right either.

posted on 16/9/23

We have a very effective midfield, with a few options now. Leaving Sasa up front, could mean the difference between us missing opportunities which Cunha has done in most games, to him scoring from the crosses that could be put into the box from both flanks. Cunha's miss today was unacceptable in my book.

posted on 16/9/23

The only question mark over Sasa is his fitness but if he is ready to start games then I think it’s only a matter of time before he becomes our main striker.

Luton is a very different kettle of fish to Liverpool so I would like to think we will go with Sasa or alternatively Fabio next week. And Cunha is more one to play behind the main striker rather than as that striker.

Then bring on Hee Chan on to get a late goal

posted on 16/9/23

Cunha scores that chance 99 times out of 100. He scored a header last game. He just jumped when he didn't need to, probably in anticipation of the defender getting a touch. Snatched at a chance which is a sign of someone low on confidence in front of goal.

I wouldn't say it was unacceptable. Every forward misses a sitter from time to time. Even the best.

posted on 16/9/23

I got the impression Cunha committed to going for the cross with his head and then the ball arrived with him lower than he had expected, and he ended up not sure whether to use his head or foot and ended up connecting with neither. Either way it was a poor miss.

But he’s far too good a player for that to become a habit and he’s clearly going to be a big player for us this season

posted on 16/9/23

But not as a #9

posted on 16/9/23

Haven't seen a replay yet only seen it the once in real time but Cunha did look like he was looking to take a touch and was starting to jump to to bring it down but why? All he needed to do was get something on it.

posted on 17/9/23

He was looking to head it. He misjudged and jumped, then couldn't stoop low enough to get his head on it. Got himself in a muddle.

If he hadn't jumped, it would have been an easy finish.

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