ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
Much of what's wrong with the team currently of his own making.
He seems to have his favourites amongst players whom he refuses to drop from the starting team no matter how shyyte they are
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 10 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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Not drawn up a short list of potential stars in positions we need, a la Brighton, and one genuine star in a position most needed
I bet he wont be sacked very soon.
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 50 seconds ago
I bet he wont be sacked very soon.
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Same here, and no should he be
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 50 seconds ago
I bet he wont be sacked very soon.
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Same here, and no should he be
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Quite.
I thought we all understood that after the Rangnick episode we were all in it with ETH for the long-haul.
Thats at least 5 years.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Shin i sent that email for you assuming pun's email is correct
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Top man. I got a confirm from Pun, his voodoo text was too much.
Had to confirm.
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 34 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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He didn’t really spend a fortune, Spurs, Arsenal, City, Chelsea all spent more and we shifted a fair few from the squad for peanuts.
We signed 3 players. I’d argue we could’ve spent it better though.
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
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I think it's Joel Glazer who has the final sign off on these things but I imagine Avram also has a say
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
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We don’t have a DoF
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
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the CEO is Richard Arnold. We dont have a DofF but we do have a Football Director, in John Murtough
I know the Glazers are terrible owners and, but what is he trying to achieve? Cos there doesn't seem to be an identity on the pitch
You can spend a fraction of what United have and put out a team with intent. Or are we saying that behind the scenes is such a mess the manager doesn't care anymore?
lose the 'and' didn't want to pile it on
Anyway point I'm getting at is, why sign Onana if the style of football doesn't necessitate him? Could've been a forward or creative player like Eze. I think that decision is getting overlooked.
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 24 seconds ago
Anyway point I'm getting at is, why sign Onana if the style of football doesn't necessitate him? Could've been a forward or creative player like Eze. I think that decision is getting overlooked.
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In the current set up United could well have signed Sancho, Haaland, Rice, Maddison & had Pep in charge and they’d still be top 6 at best right now. Managers are not the issue to an EXTENT.
Yes ETH has been given huge amounts and his head will roll because that’s what many will call for but it’s very unlikely the next guy in will do any better with what’s going on out of his control.
In the current set up United could well have signed Sancho, Haaland, Rice, Maddison & had Pep in charge and they’d still be top 6 at best right now. Managers are not the issue to an EXTENT.
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Ok I’ll give you haaland, but how would a PlayStation, ford mondeo and a square garden help us?
In the current set up United could well have signed Sancho, Haaland, Rice, Maddison & had Pep in charge and they’d still be top 6 at best right now
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How do you figure? You get a manager with a clear style of play and sign players to suit you get better. Or at least look better. Ten Hag hasn't just walked through the door. Sure he's not able to sign £100m players and there's other stuff going on but the point I'm making is, by now it should be clear what he's trying to achieve. It should be obvious whether a ball playing keeper is essential to how he wants to play or not. Or that without player X he's going to struggle to implement his system..
Conte was miserable for us and the club was in shambles, signing a mishmash of players and the whole thing being depressing. But you could at least watch the team and see what he was trying to do
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
comment by Franko Cantona - ๐ a ๐ฎ in the (_•_) (U22187)
posted 9 minutes ago
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
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Good post Franko
comment by Franko Cantona - ๐ a ๐ฎ in the (_•_) (U22187)
posted 25 minutes ago
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
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Did he sign a 3 year deal or 4? If it was 3 he's only for 18months left to run on it.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona - ๐ a ๐ฎ in the (_•_) (U22187)
posted 25 minutes ago
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
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Did he sign a 3 year deal or 4? If it was 3 he's only for 18months left to run on it.
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3 years with an option for a fourth.
I don't want another manager sacked because it will not solve anything long-term, we'll just see a new manager bounce then a massive drop off. The new manager will inherit an imbalanced squad, etc, etc. All too familiar.
Let's get to January, let's hope ETH is still here and backed in the market to plug gaps and weaknesses in defence and wide areas. Let's also get rid of some deadwood, starting with Sancho.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 10 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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Not drawn up a short list of potential stars in positions we need, a la Brighton, and one genuine star in a position most needed
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'Stars' identified by the owners? Jesus.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 34 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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He didn’t really spend a fortune, Spurs, Arsenal, City, Chelsea all spent more and we shifted a fair few from the squad for peanuts.
We signed 3 players. I’d argue we could’ve spent it better though.
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Onana, Turkish GK, Regulion, Amrabat, Mount, Hjojlund.
Thats hardly a thrifty window.
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posted on 1/10/23
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
posted on 1/10/23
Much of what's wrong with the team currently of his own making.
He seems to have his favourites amongst players whom he refuses to drop from the starting team no matter how shyyte they are
posted on 1/10/23
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 10 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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Not drawn up a short list of potential stars in positions we need, a la Brighton, and one genuine star in a position most needed
posted on 1/10/23
I bet he wont be sacked very soon.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 50 seconds ago
I bet he wont be sacked very soon.
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Same here, and no should he be
posted on 1/10/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 50 seconds ago
I bet he wont be sacked very soon.
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Same here, and no should he be
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Quite.
I thought we all understood that after the Rangnick episode we were all in it with ETH for the long-haul.
Thats at least 5 years.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Shin i sent that email for you assuming pun's email is correct
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Top man. I got a confirm from Pun, his voodoo text was too much.
Had to confirm.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 34 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn’t really spend a fortune, Spurs, Arsenal, City, Chelsea all spent more and we shifted a fair few from the squad for peanuts.
We signed 3 players. I’d argue we could’ve spent it better though.
posted on 1/10/23
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 minutes ago
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it's Joel Glazer who has the final sign off on these things but I imagine Avram also has a say
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
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We don’t have a DoF
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
I know you all blame the Glazers for everything but who is the CEO - The person who hires the manager and DoF, is it one of the Glazers?
Genuine question.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the CEO is Richard Arnold. We dont have a DofF but we do have a Football Director, in John Murtough
posted on 1/10/23
I know the Glazers are terrible owners and, but what is he trying to achieve? Cos there doesn't seem to be an identity on the pitch
You can spend a fraction of what United have and put out a team with intent. Or are we saying that behind the scenes is such a mess the manager doesn't care anymore?
posted on 1/10/23
lose the 'and' didn't want to pile it on
posted on 1/10/23
Anyway point I'm getting at is, why sign Onana if the style of football doesn't necessitate him? Could've been a forward or creative player like Eze. I think that decision is getting overlooked.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 24 seconds ago
Anyway point I'm getting at is, why sign Onana if the style of football doesn't necessitate him? Could've been a forward or creative player like Eze. I think that decision is getting overlooked.
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In the current set up United could well have signed Sancho, Haaland, Rice, Maddison & had Pep in charge and they’d still be top 6 at best right now. Managers are not the issue to an EXTENT.
Yes ETH has been given huge amounts and his head will roll because that’s what many will call for but it’s very unlikely the next guy in will do any better with what’s going on out of his control.
posted on 1/10/23
In the current set up United could well have signed Sancho, Haaland, Rice, Maddison & had Pep in charge and they’d still be top 6 at best right now. Managers are not the issue to an EXTENT.
—
Ok I’ll give you haaland, but how would a PlayStation, ford mondeo and a square garden help us?
posted on 1/10/23
In the current set up United could well have signed Sancho, Haaland, Rice, Maddison & had Pep in charge and they’d still be top 6 at best right now
---
How do you figure? You get a manager with a clear style of play and sign players to suit you get better. Or at least look better. Ten Hag hasn't just walked through the door. Sure he's not able to sign £100m players and there's other stuff going on but the point I'm making is, by now it should be clear what he's trying to achieve. It should be obvious whether a ball playing keeper is essential to how he wants to play or not. Or that without player X he's going to struggle to implement his system..
Conte was miserable for us and the club was in shambles, signing a mishmash of players and the whole thing being depressing. But you could at least watch the team and see what he was trying to do
posted on 1/10/23
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Franko Cantona - ๐ a ๐ฎ in the (_•_) (U22187)
posted 9 minutes ago
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
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Good post Franko
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Franko Cantona - ๐ a ๐ฎ in the (_•_) (U22187)
posted 25 minutes ago
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
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Did he sign a 3 year deal or 4? If it was 3 he's only for 18months left to run on it.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona - ๐ a ๐ฎ in the (_•_) (U22187)
posted 25 minutes ago
ETH won’t get sacked until we can’t get top five which should be with the spend the minimum expectation.
He is on a massive contract and was happy to take the job eyes wide open, at the moment it isn’t good enough and most of us are scratching our heads to see the positives but he could well turn it around, he has this season, over to ETH
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Did he sign a 3 year deal or 4? If it was 3 he's only for 18months left to run on it.
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3 years with an option for a fourth.
posted on 1/10/23
I don't want another manager sacked because it will not solve anything long-term, we'll just see a new manager bounce then a massive drop off. The new manager will inherit an imbalanced squad, etc, etc. All too familiar.
Let's get to January, let's hope ETH is still here and backed in the market to plug gaps and weaknesses in defence and wide areas. Let's also get rid of some deadwood, starting with Sancho.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 10 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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Not drawn up a short list of potential stars in positions we need, a la Brighton, and one genuine star in a position most needed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
'Stars' identified by the owners? Jesus.
posted on 1/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 34 minutes ago
ETH had a very good first season, and been backed with another fortune this Summer, so what is it the owners have done so very wrong since May to see us so bad?
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He didn’t really spend a fortune, Spurs, Arsenal, City, Chelsea all spent more and we shifted a fair few from the squad for peanuts.
We signed 3 players. I’d argue we could’ve spent it better though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Onana, Turkish GK, Regulion, Amrabat, Mount, Hjojlund.
Thats hardly a thrifty window.
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