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posted on 11/12/23

That is true, but I struggle to understand the handball rule these days due to the inconsistencies

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Zein Mayassi (U21076)
posted 17 minutes ago
That is true, but I struggle to understand the handball rule these days due to the inconsistencies
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It's trickled down to 5 a side now too. No one knows what handball is.

posted on 11/12/23

The Var just proves how f-ing useless our officials are.. Take the foul on Endo, Took the ref 3 minutes to see what the rest of us saw straight away

posted on 11/12/23

I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 11/12/23

VAR is supposed to be used for clear and obvious errors only, this simply isn't the case as subjective decisions are being reviewed and then some.

Then you have many examples of teams being given a decision by VAR which contradicts other subjective decisions.

The tech isn't the issue, the implementation of the tech is.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 11/12/23

comment by bestoftherest2021 (U22523)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Var just proves how f-ing useless our officials are.. Take the foul on Endo, Took the ref 3 minutes to see what the rest of us saw straight away
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Again, there are examples of goals where similar fouls are made and not even reviewed.

posted on 11/12/23

Refs make this rod for thier own backs.

The indulge players falling over all over the place then suddenly don't blow up for a clear foul and let play go on for a pen to happen.

Ayew flopped over all day and hodgson has sent his team out to fall over, times waste and bascially break up the game in any way the could.

The ref indulged it all day then pulled a card out on ayew going out of his way to jump infront of vvd who then kicks the ball to our player.

Its not as if vvd screamed vellow at the ref and its not like our lw didn't get the ball. The ref is the one who pulled it up from nowhere but the nasty man hodgson is the one berating vvd for daring to take a free.

Hodgson is supposedly a "gentleman" of the sport. but there he was acting like a cheat and screaming blue murder just like the rest. He turned round then blamed our players for the ref's poor showing.

I was actually sympathetic to place as the ref was awful but hodgson made me decide that they just got theirs. It was our turn off hooper TWICE (macallister injured by hoooper indulging sheff utd war cry tactics)

As not one other clubs fans did anything but laugh and berate klopp for this naïve comment after the spurs match I think its now just a fact that we should be saying "enjoy yours" when their turn comes up.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?
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The first one was him stopping a quick free kick which is a yellow card.

The second one is a tactical foul when we were on the counter which is also a yellow card.

Really not sure why it's seen as so controversial.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 50 minutes ago
VAR is supposed to be used for clear and obvious errors only, this simply isn't the case as subjective decisions are being reviewed and then some.

Then you have many examples of teams being given a decision by VAR which contradicts other subjective decisions.

The tech isn't the issue, the implementation of the tech is.
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I honestly think the term 'clear and obvious error' is one of the major reasons VAR is failing.

It would be fine if the refs performed and took decisions exactly as they did pre-VAR, the looking for the clear and obvious would be a way of getting rid of the howlers. But they're not imo. The refs know that VAR is there as back up and so are not making decisions. Obvious example from the weekend of the Endo foul, without VAR the ref calls that 99% of the time. But with VAR they wait and see. The problem being VAR are now looking for a clear and obvious error from a position of leniency.

I wish we could shove the genie back into the bottle and get rid of VAR but sadly I don't think that's realistic. As such I would like to see a rethink, get rid of 'clear and obvious' and just let the ref review the half dozen 50-50 calls himself on the pitch side monitor. So the VAR team never actually refer the ref to the monitor, they just do off-sides and if the ref wants to see an incident again then he asks for it. Put the refs firmly back in control and get them taking sole responsibility again.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by bestoftherest2021 (U22523)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
The Var just proves how f-ing useless our officials are.. Take the foul on Endo, Took the ref 3 minutes to see what the rest of us saw straight away
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Tbf...yeah that was incredible how long that took. A quick second and it was obvious, nonidea what the idiot ref was doing tbh..

posted on 11/12/23

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?
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The first one was him stopping a quick free kick which is a yellow card.

The second one is a tactical foul when we were on the counter which is also a yellow card.

Really not sure why it's seen as so controversial.
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Thanks for clarifying. To addminister a yellow on the first one, we were told that we needed to hit the player therefore amounting to player blocking the free kick, and yet when VdV swung at the ball, it didn't touch Ayew who jumped. I looked at it from different angles, and I just think the ref took it upon himselff to award it, maybe being furious at Ayew who has some shenanigans up his sleeve.

The second one was it a foul though? Even the commentators were baffled by both of those decisions, so I felt reprieved I wasn't the only one.

Just the sending off swung the game for the team with numerical advantage tbh

posted on 11/12/23

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?
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The first one was him stopping a quick free kick which is a yellow card.

The second one is a tactical foul when we were on the counter which is also a yellow card.

Really not sure why it's seen as so controversial.
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Yeah this.

Hey Roy...how about if you player didnt go near VVD when he was about to take the fk, you know like stay 10 yards away like the laws say....does t get a card does he?? How about your players indiscipline.

2nd yellow..as mentiones6, some give it for a tactical foul some dont...but again, he doesn't make the foul...he doesn't run risk of a card does he....indiscipline again!

100%players fault

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?
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The first one was him stopping a quick free kick which is a yellow card.

The second one is a tactical foul when we were on the counter which is also a yellow card.

Really not sure why it's seen as so controversial.
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Yeah this.

Hey Roy...how about if you player didnt go near VVD when he was about to take the fk, you know like stay 10 yards away like the laws say....does t get a card does he?? How about your players indiscipline.

2nd yellow..as mentiones6, some give it for a tactical foul some dont...but again, he doesn't make the foul...he doesn't run risk of a card does he....indiscipline again!

100%players fault
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Apparently the ref is a childhood fan of Liverpool, so he should not be reffing Liverpool games.

There is a thread on Reddit about this. Surely, the FA need investigating this. Very dubious how the game was turned around the decisions from the ref?

posted on 11/12/23

The FA won't do anything sadly. Nothing to do with being biased or enything like that, the FA just wants to collect the money and not manage games.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?
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The first one was him stopping a quick free kick which is a yellow card.

The second one is a tactical foul when we were on the counter which is also a yellow card.

Really not sure why it's seen as so controversial.
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Yeah this.

Hey Roy...how about if you player didnt go near VVD when he was about to take the fk, you know like stay 10 yards away like the laws say....does t get a card does he?? How about your players indiscipline.

2nd yellow..as mentiones6, some give it for a tactical foul some dont...but again, he doesn't make the foul...he doesn't run risk of a card does he....indiscipline again!

100%players fault
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Apparently the ref is a childhood fan of Liverpool, so he should not be reffing Liverpool games.

There is a thread on Reddit about this. Surely, the FA need investigating this. Very dubious how the game was turned around the decisions from the ref?
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Ah...so your questioning the integrity of the ref!! Even after he let the foul on endo go and gave the resultant pen....yep a defo liverpool fan there

posted on 11/12/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 51 minutes ago
I still don’t get the sending off of Ayew which led to Liverpool scoring 2 goals. The first one VdV didn’t even touch the player with the ball and also it’s a little ingenious from him to hit the player with the ball and get him a card. The second yellow was never one. The impact was huge as it swung the game for Liverpool. I would question that ref. Explain both decisions. Inconsistency is one thing but stupid decisions are another. Maybe Roy should ask for a replay?
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The first one was him stopping a quick free kick which is a yellow card.

The second one is a tactical foul when we were on the counter which is also a yellow card.

Really not sure why it's seen as so controversial.
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Yeah this.

Hey Roy...how about if you player didnt go near VVD when he was about to take the fk, you know like stay 10 yards away like the laws say....does t get a card does he?? How about your players indiscipline.

2nd yellow..as mentiones6, some give it for a tactical foul some dont...but again, he doesn't make the foul...he doesn't run risk of a card does he....indiscipline again!

100%players fault
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Apparently the ref is a childhood fan of Liverpool, so he should not be reffing Liverpool games.

There is a thread on Reddit about this. Surely, the FA need investigating this. Very dubious how the game was turned around the decisions from the ref?
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The supposed Liverpool fan is Jarred Gillett who reffed the Villa v Arsenal game, not the Liverpool one.

posted on 11/12/23

Inconsistency has a part but accept that this league is corrupt. Everyone says the same each week.

Accept VAR was brought in to control the outcome of games -it’s obvious.

No one will ever be held accountable or the truth will ever get out in the media as the PGMOL have so muc protection by everyone including the media. Too much money involved.

Sooner you accept this, the easier dodgy decisions are to accept

Lately the likes of Carragher and Neville have been going over the top with their praise of referees at a time when they’ve been getting so much criticism from fans. Weird

posted on 11/12/23

Corrupt??? Really...so, your saying all the refs, PGMOL, media are all in on it?? Cmon...its not corrupt at all...its just legitimate errors. Even the VAR Vs us at Spurs, wasnt corrupt at all...a huge fk.up yes...incredible yes, but just that...a legitimate fk up.

posted on 11/12/23

comment by He who Dares, waits for Trophies (U15748)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
The FA won't do anything sadly. Nothing to do with being biased or enything like that, the FA just wants to collect the money and not manage games.
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So of the refs are in our pocket what the fack were they doing when we played Spurs?

posted on 11/12/23

You have to laugh at the conspiracy.for the first month or so of the season, the refs were out to get LFC.. their decisions against us were criminal.
We demanded a reasoning for why.. The var basically cheated us at Tottenham. Since then most correct calls have been given.. and CORRECT CALLS. are not allowed where LFC are concerned. its fine when we are being robbed. but correct calls for us is against the laws of football

posted on 11/12/23

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Corrupt??? Really...so, your saying all the refs, PGMOL, media are all in on it?? Cmon...its not corrupt at all...its just legitimate errors. Even the VAR Vs us at Spurs, wasnt corrupt at all...a huge fk.up yes...incredible yes, but just that...a legitimate fk up.
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