comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If
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Damn right I have no concern for any other club. This is a competition with rules. You break the rules, you should be punished. No drama.
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There's a difference between breaking the rules and getting caught breaking the rules.
The prem clubs use underhand tactics and we all know it.
The only reason people here give a fack about us is because of City.
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
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Oh please
We were the only ones to be made scapegoats.
The sums of PL clubs don't add up
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 6 seconds ago
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
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I would be grateful in your position. You should still stay up and live to fight another day. And now you know the rules, stay within and they will be no more drama.
comment by Igòr; League 1, you’ve being Warne-D 🐏🤍🖤 (U22200)
posted 16 minutes ago
Forest have appealed.
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👍🏻
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 6 seconds ago
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
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I would be grateful in your position. You should still stay up and live to fight another day. And now you know the rules, stay within and they will be no more drama.
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And you should be grateful that they're too scared to go after the teams at the top of the league. I'm sure you have some skeletons in your closet like everyone else.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s a joke to be honest, 2 points for a second offence - they will stay up and stink the league out again next year with more Dyche ball
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TBF, if your finances are bad then its not always an instant fix. To be compliant you need to raise revenues and sell players and neither can necessarily be achieved over night. They sold Gordon for 45m.
I suppose so long as they are heading in the right direction, then the fine will be lesser than the first offence.
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They didn’t have to sign Beto this summer - knowing they will still breach the rules - that’s my issue with this. They didn’t sell Onana, Pickford, DCL, Branthwaite to try and balance the books to avoid a points deduction. Reducing a bit isn’t good enough - Forest got done for 4 points because they held onto Brennan Johnson for an additional month to get greater value for him - double the punishment, it’s an absolute joke.
Everton should have had another 10 with no appeal possible and told to faaaack off.
Let’s say Leeds are struggling next season and at FFP limit - what’s to stop them blowing FFP by £100m and staying up, knowing all that will happen is they will get a 2 point deduction the following season. What stops Bewcastle spending half a billion this summer to win the title knowing the punishment will be a couple of points deduction the following season and no entry to Europe.
It’s a joke and the rest of the Prem should be appealing such a lenient sentence
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I dont think it helps that the FFP year is up to the end of June.
It would be better that you are able to react to a season by having a full window to address problems, not being forced into selling early.
Imagine having to raise £120m in sales before the end of June, when actually the window hasn't even officially opened.
If allowed until September before you do the accounting, or at least just the player trading and wages part of it, then there is no excuse.
Seems like the sensible approach to me.
I get you point about obvious overspending because teh punishment for cheating are less than the harm from not cheating.
I think that this process is in its infancy, this is setting the ground rules which is basically 4 points for a breach if it aint too bad (Forest), 6 points if its more significant (Everton) and no mitigating circumstances, 2 pts if you're working your way back to compliance.
I think Everton only overspent by £20m for their 6 points.
SO id imagine if newly promoted club was massively over spending then the deduction gets bigger.
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 6 seconds ago
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
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I would be grateful in your position. You should still stay up and live to fight another day. And now you know the rules, stay within and they will be no more drama.
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And you should be grateful that they're too scared to go after the teams at the top of the league. I'm sure you have some skeletons in your closet like everyone else.
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They are going after City. What are you talking about?
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
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Oh please
We were the only ones to be made scapegoats.
The sums of PL clubs don't add up
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
Everton have been let off big time. I could t care less about Man City from a Spurs perspective as we wouldn’t win the league even if they were relegated to league 2.
I just think it’s a disgrace that the Prem looked at weak mitigation factors in their favour but did not also consider they spent money they didn’t have this summer, knowing full well they would breach again.
It’s sends the wrong message to give them a pass on this
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
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Oh please
We were the only ones to be made scapegoats.
The sums of PL clubs don't add up
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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It’s bollox they don’t add up - it’s just are some artificially inflated or third parties actually connected rather than independent.
But Everton as much as they like to claim they have been unlucky, have actually just kept spending money they don’t have.
They will stay up this year but I hope the league make it clear to them before the summer window opens that any spending on their part that still leaves them non compliant with the rules will see them docked a considerable amount of points. Hopefully next years promoted sides then do the business and they get their long over due justice
They were going to dock Chelsea 2 points but they decided they're doing a good enough job of it themselves every match.
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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City these days have a global audience - loads and loads of plastics out there pretending they have Manc grannies - I see kids all the time in the south east wearing City shirts these days when 10 years ago they would have been wearing United instead
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
They were going to dock Chelsea 2 points but they decided they're doing a good enough job of it themselves every match.
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Pouch is doing the lords work at the moment. God bless that man.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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City these days have a global audience - loads and loads of plastics out there pretending they have Manc grannies - I see kids all the time in the south east wearing City shirts these days when 10 years ago they would have been wearing United instead
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That is annoyingly true!
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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He is wondering why City get more money for playing Real Madrid in the Champions league compared to Everton having a scrap at Burnley
You only need to look at Uniteds deals and the refund in price agreed for if they don’t get CL qualification to see just how much that is worth regardless of the size of the club in terms of matchday.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
You only need to look at Uniteds deals and the refund in price agreed for if they don’t get CL qualification to see just how much that is worth regardless of the size of the club in terms of matchday.
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Indeed and it’s worth even more next year due to the additional games - some sides will play 12 games just to get knocked out in the last 16 whereas that would have been 8 games previously
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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I don't know maybe the fraudulent sponsorship deals you're being investigated for. Are we really having this conversation?
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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I don't know maybe the fraudulent sponsorship deals you're being investigated for. Are we really having this conversation?
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You obviously do not understand what is being looked at for them if you think it doesn’t add up. It does add up, the issue is whether those sponsorship deals are truly 3rd party and if they are representative of market value. They are completely different offences to the ones Everton have admitted and been found guilty of
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
The timing of this extra two-points to avoid any significant spanner for those in the relegation zone, strongly indicates their concern of a wider-backlash.
I'll call it now, Manchester City or Chelsea will be asked to pay a significant fine and will be informed at the start of next season, they will be -30 points, knowing full well it will have no significant impact on them for their future.
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Chelsea would be bottom this season if deducted 30 points. They would have been relegated and finished bottom last season.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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You can understand his bitterness but actually much of the doping City did was before the current FFPs really came into force, and then when UEFA felt they had something to accuse City of, it was largely time barred.
Now City are self sufficient having evolved into a super power, so the figures add up.
But anyone who thinks that these owners from Saudi and Qatar do not have enough wealth and power to influence and cover up every aspect of their financial dealings, or are honest, are very very naïve.
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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I don't know maybe the fraudulent sponsorship deals you're being investigated for. Are we really having this conversation?
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Well yes because you’ve still not answered the question! The value of those sponsorships aren’t what’s in question, they were deemed market value at the time by both Uefa and CAS so I’m not sure you understand what the allegation actually is. It is who was funding those sponsorships via the sponsors. That’s also why if there is fraud, it would be at the sponsors too not at City, which is why it’s a PL investigation and not a criminal one…
You said PL clubs anyway, as in plural. Who are you accusing of fudging their PSR calculations and how
(aside from you yourselves trying to?)
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posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If
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Damn right I have no concern for any other club. This is a competition with rules. You break the rules, you should be punished. No drama.
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There's a difference between breaking the rules and getting caught breaking the rules.
The prem clubs use underhand tactics and we all know it.
The only reason people here give a fack about us is because of City.
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
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Oh please
We were the only ones to be made scapegoats.
The sums of PL clubs don't add up
posted on 8/4/24
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 6 seconds ago
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
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I would be grateful in your position. You should still stay up and live to fight another day. And now you know the rules, stay within and they will be no more drama.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Igòr; League 1, you’ve being Warne-D 🐏🤍🖤 (U22200)
posted 16 minutes ago
Forest have appealed.
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👍🏻
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 6 seconds ago
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
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I would be grateful in your position. You should still stay up and live to fight another day. And now you know the rules, stay within and they will be no more drama.
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And you should be grateful that they're too scared to go after the teams at the top of the league. I'm sure you have some skeletons in your closet like everyone else.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s a joke to be honest, 2 points for a second offence - they will stay up and stink the league out again next year with more Dyche ball
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TBF, if your finances are bad then its not always an instant fix. To be compliant you need to raise revenues and sell players and neither can necessarily be achieved over night. They sold Gordon for 45m.
I suppose so long as they are heading in the right direction, then the fine will be lesser than the first offence.
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They didn’t have to sign Beto this summer - knowing they will still breach the rules - that’s my issue with this. They didn’t sell Onana, Pickford, DCL, Branthwaite to try and balance the books to avoid a points deduction. Reducing a bit isn’t good enough - Forest got done for 4 points because they held onto Brennan Johnson for an additional month to get greater value for him - double the punishment, it’s an absolute joke.
Everton should have had another 10 with no appeal possible and told to faaaack off.
Let’s say Leeds are struggling next season and at FFP limit - what’s to stop them blowing FFP by £100m and staying up, knowing all that will happen is they will get a 2 point deduction the following season. What stops Bewcastle spending half a billion this summer to win the title knowing the punishment will be a couple of points deduction the following season and no entry to Europe.
It’s a joke and the rest of the Prem should be appealing such a lenient sentence
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I dont think it helps that the FFP year is up to the end of June.
It would be better that you are able to react to a season by having a full window to address problems, not being forced into selling early.
Imagine having to raise £120m in sales before the end of June, when actually the window hasn't even officially opened.
If allowed until September before you do the accounting, or at least just the player trading and wages part of it, then there is no excuse.
Seems like the sensible approach to me.
I get you point about obvious overspending because teh punishment for cheating are less than the harm from not cheating.
I think that this process is in its infancy, this is setting the ground rules which is basically 4 points for a breach if it aint too bad (Forest), 6 points if its more significant (Everton) and no mitigating circumstances, 2 pts if you're working your way back to compliance.
I think Everton only overspent by £20m for their 6 points.
SO id imagine if newly promoted club was massively over spending then the deduction gets bigger.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 6 seconds ago
This is like HMRC going after granny while ignoring big businesses. It's no surprise they went after us and Forest instead of the PL clubs who are obviously a law unto themselves.
Most likely we've been punished for trying to comply rather than trying to get around it
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I would be grateful in your position. You should still stay up and live to fight another day. And now you know the rules, stay within and they will be no more drama.
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And you should be grateful that they're too scared to go after the teams at the top of the league. I'm sure you have some skeletons in your closet like everyone else.
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They are going after City. What are you talking about?
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
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Oh please
We were the only ones to be made scapegoats.
The sums of PL clubs don't add up
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
posted on 8/4/24
Everton have been let off big time. I could t care less about Man City from a Spurs perspective as we wouldn’t win the league even if they were relegated to league 2.
I just think it’s a disgrace that the Prem looked at weak mitigation factors in their favour but did not also consider they spent money they didn’t have this summer, knowing full well they would breach again.
It’s sends the wrong message to give them a pass on this
posted on 8/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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City's offences are totally difference. Every club knew PSR was coming and managed to comply with the rules except for Everton and Forest. You cannot let them off with a fine. It has to be a fair punishment to fit the crime and a detterent to warn other clubs in the future.
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Oh please
We were the only ones to be made scapegoats.
The sums of PL clubs don't add up
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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It’s bollox they don’t add up - it’s just are some artificially inflated or third parties actually connected rather than independent.
But Everton as much as they like to claim they have been unlucky, have actually just kept spending money they don’t have.
They will stay up this year but I hope the league make it clear to them before the summer window opens that any spending on their part that still leaves them non compliant with the rules will see them docked a considerable amount of points. Hopefully next years promoted sides then do the business and they get their long over due justice
posted on 8/4/24
They were going to dock Chelsea 2 points but they decided they're doing a good enough job of it themselves every match.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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City these days have a global audience - loads and loads of plastics out there pretending they have Manc grannies - I see kids all the time in the south east wearing City shirts these days when 10 years ago they would have been wearing United instead
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
They were going to dock Chelsea 2 points but they decided they're doing a good enough job of it themselves every match.
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Pouch is doing the lords work at the moment. God bless that man.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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City these days have a global audience - loads and loads of plastics out there pretending they have Manc grannies - I see kids all the time in the south east wearing City shirts these days when 10 years ago they would have been wearing United instead
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That is annoyingly true!
posted on 8/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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He is wondering why City get more money for playing Real Madrid in the Champions league compared to Everton having a scrap at Burnley
posted on 8/4/24
You only need to look at Uniteds deals and the refund in price agreed for if they don’t get CL qualification to see just how much that is worth regardless of the size of the club in terms of matchday.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
You only need to look at Uniteds deals and the refund in price agreed for if they don’t get CL qualification to see just how much that is worth regardless of the size of the club in terms of matchday.
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Indeed and it’s worth even more next year due to the additional games - some sides will play 12 games just to get knocked out in the last 16 whereas that would have been 8 games previously
posted on 8/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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I don't know maybe the fraudulent sponsorship deals you're being investigated for. Are we really having this conversation?
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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I don't know maybe the fraudulent sponsorship deals you're being investigated for. Are we really having this conversation?
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You obviously do not understand what is being looked at for them if you think it doesn’t add up. It does add up, the issue is whether those sponsorship deals are truly 3rd party and if they are representative of market value. They are completely different offences to the ones Everton have admitted and been found guilty of
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
The timing of this extra two-points to avoid any significant spanner for those in the relegation zone, strongly indicates their concern of a wider-backlash.
I'll call it now, Manchester City or Chelsea will be asked to pay a significant fine and will be informed at the start of next season, they will be -30 points, knowing full well it will have no significant impact on them for their future.
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Chelsea would be bottom this season if deducted 30 points. They would have been relegated and finished bottom last season.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
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In what way do they not add up? It’s the audited accounts that are used.
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Enron's accounts were audited by one of the big 5 at the time. So what?
How do City's accounts add up exactly?Small stadium and fanbase in relation to their standing. It's up there with the bermuda triangle.
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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You can understand his bitterness but actually much of the doping City did was before the current FFPs really came into force, and then when UEFA felt they had something to accuse City of, it was largely time barred.
Now City are self sufficient having evolved into a super power, so the figures add up.
But anyone who thinks that these owners from Saudi and Qatar do not have enough wealth and power to influence and cover up every aspect of their financial dealings, or are honest, are very very naïve.
posted on 8/4/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Because matchday revenue hasn’t been the biggest generator in a long time. What do you think doesn’t add up?
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I don't know maybe the fraudulent sponsorship deals you're being investigated for. Are we really having this conversation?
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Well yes because you’ve still not answered the question! The value of those sponsorships aren’t what’s in question, they were deemed market value at the time by both Uefa and CAS so I’m not sure you understand what the allegation actually is. It is who was funding those sponsorships via the sponsors. That’s also why if there is fraud, it would be at the sponsors too not at City, which is why it’s a PL investigation and not a criminal one…
You said PL clubs anyway, as in plural. Who are you accusing of fudging their PSR calculations and how
(aside from you yourselves trying to?)
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