Two weeks ago I made a long trip with my sister to North Devon to scatter my Dad’s ashes on a path overlooking the sea, in the same spot where we had done the same for my Mum. They had chosen the spot themselves as this was where we had spent our summer holidays virtually every year when we were growing up, the happiest times of their lives.
It was the most beautiful day and as I stood looking out to sea, summoning up memories of my Dad, I found that the ones which had stuck most were those relating to watching football. The first, on black and white TV, the 1970 World Cup quarter-final, two-nil up against West Germany, before Alf's substitutions, Gerd Muller and disaster. I was 6 and inconsolable, crying in my bed when Dad issued the immortal words: “Don’t be upset, it’s just a game”. I remember thinking then what a stupid thing that was for a father to say!
He supported Derby for over 60 years, and when he started taking me with him at the age of four it was the beginning of the glory years. We used to get into the Baseball Ground at one o’clock so that I could put down my stool at the front of The Paddock, otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to see anything. He had to somehow keep me entertained for the interminable two hours before kick-off. It was a season and a half before I saw us lose.
When my Mum died he seemed to visibly shrink. He still came to the games, but for a long while he seemed almost disinterested in the outcome, and I realised the main reason he came was to spend time with me and my own two lads. Eventually, though, he recovered, and my last strong footballing memory of him is in the immediate aftermath of the play-off final, a look of utter jubilation on his face. Most precious of all for me is thinking about May 8th 1972. It being a school night, I had been sent to bed while Wolves played Leeds and Arsenal played Liverpool, but with twenty minutes to go he woke me up and I was allowed to come halfway (only halfway, mind you!) downstairs while we listened to the radio and prayed that Leeds would not score. At about a quarter past nine, father and son went bonkers as The Rams claimed the title and I have always blessed him for making sure that I witnessed our greatest triumph.
With his death I have come to realise that in waking me up on that night, he also had a selfish motive. As a fan who had supported Derby through some very dark days, this was for him the moment of supreme triumph, and to make his joy complete, he needed his lad to be with him. As well as giving me the ultimate memory, he was doing the same for himself: the joy of sharing the greatest moment of his life with his son.
My reasons for laying this on you are also pretty selfish: it's therapeutic just to write these things down. I don't care if you comment or not. I also feel there's no harm in occasionally putting forward the belief that football should be about the simple emotions of joy and sadness rather than bitterness, rage and hatred.
My kids are now about the same age as I was on that wonderful night. If England win the World Cup next month I know where I want to be: jumping up and down on the stairs with my boys, not legless in a pub somewhere. If and when we get knocked out, we'll share the pain, and maybe in forty years' time they'll remember how it felt to do this with their Dad.
Wow - that was quick. Many thanks. Just as emotional reading it again.
Well found.
For credit purposes:
Memories of my Dad
Championship Derby County
by vidalslastapostle (U9499391) 07 June 2010
Two weeks ago I made a long trip with my sister to North Devon to scatter my Dad
I certainly remember it and commenting on it.
comment by Warwick (U13131)
posted 1 minute ago
Wow - that was quick. Many thanks. Just as emotional reading it again.
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Found it on reddit.
Vidal still posts on here
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/17198-who-remembers-the-old-bbc-606-derby-board/
It wasn't easy but I found it. Vidal i hope you don't mind me posting it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100613001818/http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A69651138
Yes - a fantastic article that I can relate to much more now than 14 years ago.
40 one stars 😒
At least we only got a few bandits come over here.
Beautiful... just pure love resonating from every paragraph... We certainly need more of that in this world right now. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for doing this Warwick. I remember this.
Even more important now. Brilliantly written. Very
much needed this right now.
Cheers also D'Jeezus Mackaroni/Admin1.
vidalslastapostle bless you & your family
oh for me, the irony of this my dad & i use that term lightly, was a ram, he also left my mother and myself when i was 2 & never ever got in touch with me ever again.......apparently, he died a tortuous painful death of pancreatic cancer
Yes - it's those who had the skills to find it that we have to thank!
I'm sure like me, vidal will enjoy his away trip to Elland Rd next season.
UTR.
Was just thinking about this article yesterday and wondering if I could find it. Awesome!
Vidal that was a beautiful article and I found tears in my eyes. You were very lucky, my dad took me to see Stoke...luckily only once to see the return of Stanley Matthews against Spurs.
Thank you all very much. It was an emotional time for me and I was incredibly touched by the kind comments by fans of all persuasions. As I have got older I have started to wonder how my own lads will remember me when the time comes. I like to think it won’t be all that different for them, though it’s slightly sobering to consider that their ultimate moment might be of scraping promotion from the third tier by beating Carlisle. Maybe I should try to hang on for a bit longer until either Derby or England win something!
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
Thank you all very much. It was an emotional time for me and I was incredibly touched by the kind comments by fans of all persuasions. As I have got older I have started to wonder how my own lads will remember me when the time comes. I like to think it won’t be all that different for them, though it’s slightly sobering to consider that their ultimate moment might be of scraping promotion from the third tier by beating Carlisle. Maybe I should try to hang on for a bit longer until either Derby or England win something!
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I'd go with the England option Vidal ....
comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted 2 days, 10 hours ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
Thank you all very much. It was an emotional time for me and I was incredibly touched by the kind comments by fans of all persuasions. As I have got older I have started to wonder how my own lads will remember me when the time comes. I like to think it won’t be all that different for them, though it’s slightly sobering to consider that their ultimate moment might be of scraping promotion from the third tier by beating Carlisle. Maybe I should try to hang on for a bit longer until either Derby or England win something!
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I'd go with the England option Vidal ....
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I'd want Vidal to hang around a lot longer than this summer. We're (England) are going to win the Euros.
I remember this post well. Vidal is a very fine writer. I still have a bound copy of one of his Christmas works in my study. One day, I will deliver it.
I remember this, thanks for posting again.
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posted on 22/5/24
Two weeks ago I made a long trip with my sister to North Devon to scatter my Dad’s ashes on a path overlooking the sea, in the same spot where we had done the same for my Mum. They had chosen the spot themselves as this was where we had spent our summer holidays virtually every year when we were growing up, the happiest times of their lives.
It was the most beautiful day and as I stood looking out to sea, summoning up memories of my Dad, I found that the ones which had stuck most were those relating to watching football. The first, on black and white TV, the 1970 World Cup quarter-final, two-nil up against West Germany, before Alf's substitutions, Gerd Muller and disaster. I was 6 and inconsolable, crying in my bed when Dad issued the immortal words: “Don’t be upset, it’s just a game”. I remember thinking then what a stupid thing that was for a father to say!
He supported Derby for over 60 years, and when he started taking me with him at the age of four it was the beginning of the glory years. We used to get into the Baseball Ground at one o’clock so that I could put down my stool at the front of The Paddock, otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to see anything. He had to somehow keep me entertained for the interminable two hours before kick-off. It was a season and a half before I saw us lose.
When my Mum died he seemed to visibly shrink. He still came to the games, but for a long while he seemed almost disinterested in the outcome, and I realised the main reason he came was to spend time with me and my own two lads. Eventually, though, he recovered, and my last strong footballing memory of him is in the immediate aftermath of the play-off final, a look of utter jubilation on his face. Most precious of all for me is thinking about May 8th 1972. It being a school night, I had been sent to bed while Wolves played Leeds and Arsenal played Liverpool, but with twenty minutes to go he woke me up and I was allowed to come halfway (only halfway, mind you!) downstairs while we listened to the radio and prayed that Leeds would not score. At about a quarter past nine, father and son went bonkers as The Rams claimed the title and I have always blessed him for making sure that I witnessed our greatest triumph.
With his death I have come to realise that in waking me up on that night, he also had a selfish motive. As a fan who had supported Derby through some very dark days, this was for him the moment of supreme triumph, and to make his joy complete, he needed his lad to be with him. As well as giving me the ultimate memory, he was doing the same for himself: the joy of sharing the greatest moment of his life with his son.
My reasons for laying this on you are also pretty selfish: it's therapeutic just to write these things down. I don't care if you comment or not. I also feel there's no harm in occasionally putting forward the belief that football should be about the simple emotions of joy and sadness rather than bitterness, rage and hatred.
My kids are now about the same age as I was on that wonderful night. If England win the World Cup next month I know where I want to be: jumping up and down on the stairs with my boys, not legless in a pub somewhere. If and when we get knocked out, we'll share the pain, and maybe in forty years' time they'll remember how it felt to do this with their Dad.
posted on 22/5/24
Wow - that was quick. Many thanks. Just as emotional reading it again.
posted on 22/5/24
Well found.
For credit purposes:
Memories of my Dad
Championship Derby County
by vidalslastapostle (U9499391) 07 June 2010
Two weeks ago I made a long trip with my sister to North Devon to scatter my Dad
posted on 22/5/24
I certainly remember it and commenting on it.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Warwick (U13131)
posted 1 minute ago
Wow - that was quick. Many thanks. Just as emotional reading it again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Found it on reddit.
posted on 22/5/24
Vidal still posts on here
https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/17198-who-remembers-the-old-bbc-606-derby-board/
It wasn't easy but I found it. Vidal i hope you don't mind me posting it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100613001818/http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A69651138
posted on 22/5/24
Beautifully written 👏🏾
posted on 22/5/24
Yes - a fantastic article that I can relate to much more now than 14 years ago.
posted on 22/5/24
40 one stars 😒
At least we only got a few bandits come over here.
posted on 22/5/24
Beautiful... just pure love resonating from every paragraph... We certainly need more of that in this world right now. Thanks for sharing 👍
posted on 22/5/24
Thanks for doing this Warwick. I remember this.
Even more important now. Brilliantly written. Very
much needed this right now.
Cheers also D'Jeezus Mackaroni/Admin1.
posted on 22/5/24
vidalslastapostle bless you & your family
oh for me, the irony of this my dad & i use that term lightly, was a ram, he also left my mother and myself when i was 2 & never ever got in touch with me ever again.......apparently, he died a tortuous painful death of pancreatic cancer
posted on 22/5/24
Yes - it's those who had the skills to find it that we have to thank!
posted on 22/5/24
I'm sure like me, vidal will enjoy his away trip to Elland Rd next season.
UTR.
posted on 22/5/24
Was just thinking about this article yesterday and wondering if I could find it. Awesome!
posted on 22/5/24
Vidal that was a beautiful article and I found tears in my eyes. You were very lucky, my dad took me to see Stoke...luckily only once to see the return of Stanley Matthews against Spurs.
posted on 22/5/24
Thank you all very much. It was an emotional time for me and I was incredibly touched by the kind comments by fans of all persuasions. As I have got older I have started to wonder how my own lads will remember me when the time comes. I like to think it won’t be all that different for them, though it’s slightly sobering to consider that their ultimate moment might be of scraping promotion from the third tier by beating Carlisle. Maybe I should try to hang on for a bit longer until either Derby or England win something!
posted on 23/5/24
Very nice thread💙
posted on 23/5/24
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
Thank you all very much. It was an emotional time for me and I was incredibly touched by the kind comments by fans of all persuasions. As I have got older I have started to wonder how my own lads will remember me when the time comes. I like to think it won’t be all that different for them, though it’s slightly sobering to consider that their ultimate moment might be of scraping promotion from the third tier by beating Carlisle. Maybe I should try to hang on for a bit longer until either Derby or England win something!
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I'd go with the England option Vidal ....
posted on 25/5/24
comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted 2 days, 10 hours ago
comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
Thank you all very much. It was an emotional time for me and I was incredibly touched by the kind comments by fans of all persuasions. As I have got older I have started to wonder how my own lads will remember me when the time comes. I like to think it won’t be all that different for them, though it’s slightly sobering to consider that their ultimate moment might be of scraping promotion from the third tier by beating Carlisle. Maybe I should try to hang on for a bit longer until either Derby or England win something!
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I'd go with the England option Vidal ....
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I'd want Vidal to hang around a lot longer than this summer. We're (England) are going to win the Euros.
I remember this post well. Vidal is a very fine writer. I still have a bound copy of one of his Christmas works in my study. One day, I will deliver it.
posted on 27/5/24
I remember this, thanks for posting again.
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