comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 minutes ago
Personally I don't see him turning this around.
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Quite the record scratch moment
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It wasn't funny the first time. You don't need to bite and comment if you're sick of hearing it. Just move along with your day. You're allowed your opinion as I am allowed mine.
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I'm not sick of hearing it. I find it amusing that you keep telling everyone something that everyone knows you think, and that you seem to see yourself as an outlier in holding this opinion when the vast majority of people here think ETH has failed.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Coaching set up?
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Would the Man Utd fans take Alonso if he was available?
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I would. I know he played for Liverpool but at the end of the day, I've never found him dislikable. More importantly, he's doing a great job at Bayern and if he wanted to come to United, we'd be stupid not to go for him. Of course, if results weren't great at any time his playing past would definitely be mentioned quicker than if he hadn't played for Liverpool. So that would probably be a barrier to him wanting to come.
Hypothetical obviously, as I don't think he'd even entertain a move to us at this moment in time.
Of the options above, I'd go for Poch. I'm not his biggest fan but I think he'd be the best fit of those above and I think ETH's race is run
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Would the Man Utd fans take Alonso if he was available?
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I would. I know he played for Liverpool but at the end of the day, I've never found him dislikable. More importantly, he's doing a great job at Bayern and if he wanted to come to United, we'd be stupid not to go for him. Of course, if results weren't great at any time his playing past would definitely be mentioned quicker than if he hadn't played for Liverpool. So that would probably be a barrier to him wanting to come.
Hypothetical obviously, as I don't think he'd even entertain a move to us at this moment in time.
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*Great job at Bayer Leverkusen, not Bayern obviously
Its like tag team wrestling on here sometimes
Yes I've changed my mind from pro ETH to anti and then back again.
But I had reasons for it which I posted on here.
I don't see anything wrong in that. There isn't a prize for sticking to one opinion.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
Yes I've changed my mind from pro ETH to anti and then back again.
But I had reasons for it which I posted on here.
I don't see anything wrong in that. There isn't a prize for sticking to one opinion.
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Of course everyone has the right to change their mind. But the fact that you seem to lack certainty on whether you want ETH to stay perhaps suggests that he isn't the right guy for us?
We are all different, but I have felt for a while he ain't the right guy. He honestly just looks lost and the players aren't responding to him.
Even if everyone was fit, the way we have played this season almost negates that, being so open etc. If we were losing because players weren't of a certain standard due to injuries etc, I could accept that, but we are so open in the way we play that it's our style of play that is costing us, regardless of personnel available, and that is really on ETH.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 44 minutes ago
Yes I've changed my mind from pro ETH to anti and then back again.
But I had reasons for it which I posted on here.
I don't see anything wrong in that. There isn't a prize for sticking to one opinion.
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Agree. I won't be upset if ETH leaves, but I also have sympathy for the situation he's faced this season.
"Agree. I won't be upset if ETH leaves, but I also have sympathy for the situation he's faced this season. "
Yep, done plenty wrong but has had to also deal with a stupid number of injuries (maybe he's partly to blame for them, not sure tbh) as well as the usual sh-tshow from this club. Saying that I've never warmed to EtH, he seems quite an odd bloke.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
"Agree. I won't be upset if ETH leaves, but I also have sympathy for the situation he's faced this season. "
Yep, done plenty wrong but has had to also deal with a stupid number of injuries (maybe he's partly to blame for them, not sure tbh) as well as the usual sh-tshow from this club. Saying that I've never warmed to EtH, he seems quite an odd bloke.
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He's certainly odd
I guess as a fan I always tie myself to a utopia where our managers can turn things around.
The only one I've never warmed to at all is Jose.
I don't think any of the managers have settled in and felt like the right man at any point. Ole had the connection to the club and the players for a while were on his side but was never convinced he had the balls or the know how to be a manager as such as big club. I feel like the club has also been too big a job for EtH, as it was for Moyes while LVG and Jose were both mental and long past their best.
Obviously a lot of issues out of all of the managers hands that have contributedmassively to our failings in recent years.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
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This was ETH second year. Its a squad game now, i dont think having a thin squad and injuries is a valid reason after 2 big summer transfer spends.
NUFC and Chelsea both had horrendous injuries this season and turned it around. May be their upturn in form coincided with players coming back but when United had less injuries, their form wasnt great. Your start to the season was poor despite having most players available. And its a second season in a row where you gaol scoring has been in the 50s, comfortably the worst in the top 6 and last season you had an in form Rashford. This points to more than missing or poor form of individuals.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
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This was ETH second year. Its a squad game now, i dont think having a thin squad and injuries is a valid reason after 2 big summer transfer spends.
NUFC and Chelsea both had horrendous injuries this season and turned it around. May be their upturn in form coincided with players coming back but when United had less injuries, their form wasnt great. Your start to the season was poor despite having most players available. And its a second season in a row where you gaol scoring has been in the 50s, comfortably the worst in the top 6 and last season you had an in form Rashford. This points to more than missing or poor form of individuals.
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It's.not.ALL.doen to.injuries, but ours were so bad, that it had a huge impact on our season.
I was discussing this with 2 Liverpool.supporting mates, and to make my point I asked them to name any 3 fixtures between us and those that finished above us, so I could list the players unavailable for those fixtures.
They eventually accepted we have had rotten luck with injuries.
All depends which players are injured though and losing Martinez for us was huge. Even with 2 summer windows to improve things the squad needed huge improvements, although we haven't done particularly well recruiting over that period.
Of the 7 players EtH has bought 3 have been out for a substantial amount of time (Martinez, Mount and Malacia) while the other 4 are Hojlund (who's a kid and shouldnt be leading the line for us), Onana (who has improved a little in recent months), Casemiro (who decided to not be a footballer this season) and Antony (who you could argue was never a footballer to begin with).
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
All depends which players are injured though and losing Martinez for us was huge. Even with 2 summer windows to improve things the squad needed huge improvements, although we haven't done particularly well recruiting over that period.
Of the 7 players EtH has bought 3 have been out for a substantial amount of time (Martinez, Mount and Malacia) while the other 4 are Hojlund (who's a kid and shouldnt be leading the line for us), Onana (who has improved a little in recent months), Casemiro (who decided to not be a footballer this season) and Antony (who you could argue was never a footballer to begin with).
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Chelsea have had to rely on an awful Jackson, a 37 yo CB, garbage like Cucurella, on their 3rd keeper of the season.
I think a team can cave in to injuries and accept it as an excuse and that comes down to the manager IMO.
Yes you will only achieve so much with a big injury list but United still under performed IMO and what is worse is that many of them showed very little character when faced with this adversity.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
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This was ETH second year. Its a squad game now, i dont think having a thin squad and injuries is a valid reason after 2 big summer transfer spends.
NUFC and Chelsea both had horrendous injuries this season and turned it around. May be their upturn in form coincided with players coming back but when United had less injuries, their form wasnt great. Your start to the season was poor despite having most players available. And its a second season in a row where you gaol scoring has been in the 50s, comfortably the worst in the top 6 and last season you had an in form Rashford. This points to more than missing or poor form of individuals.
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I don't think you understand the extent of the injury list. Over 65, some including months on the side line for starters including Shaw, Martinez, Casemiro, Martial left us with one striker, Mount missed essentially the whole season, Mainoo was out for the first half of the season, I could go on.
Not to mention Sancho left mid season (maybe the managers fault?) and Greenwood was pulled from the squad last minute.
No manager in football was getting this squad in the CL.
We had several.key players out at any 1 time.throughout the season, plus others.
For large periods we have had no LB, been forced to use Jonny Evans at CB, Casemiro, Mount barely featuring.
14 different CB combinations and 31 overall defensive combinations I think.
"Chelsea have had to rely on an awful Jackson, a 37 yo CB, garbage like Cucurella, on their 3rd keeper of the season."
Jackson has actually been pretty good this season and his style has complimented Palmer well while also scoring and assisting quite a bit. Thiago Silva is Chelsea's first choice CB and has also been very good this season. Cucurella isn't that bad, even so, he isn't playing regularly for Chelsea I don't think. Not really sure what this has to do with United and 3 of EtH's 7 signings being out for pretty much all of the season though.
Southgate Tuchel and Poch... Miserable options
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 10 minutes ago
Southgate Tuchel and Poch... Miserable options
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posted on 22/5/24
Ian Holloway
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 minutes ago
Personally I don't see him turning this around.
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Quite the record scratch moment
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It wasn't funny the first time. You don't need to bite and comment if you're sick of hearing it. Just move along with your day. You're allowed your opinion as I am allowed mine.
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I'm not sick of hearing it. I find it amusing that you keep telling everyone something that everyone knows you think, and that you seem to see yourself as an outlier in holding this opinion when the vast majority of people here think ETH has failed.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Coaching set up?
posted on 22/5/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Would the Man Utd fans take Alonso if he was available?
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I would. I know he played for Liverpool but at the end of the day, I've never found him dislikable. More importantly, he's doing a great job at Bayern and if he wanted to come to United, we'd be stupid not to go for him. Of course, if results weren't great at any time his playing past would definitely be mentioned quicker than if he hadn't played for Liverpool. So that would probably be a barrier to him wanting to come.
Hypothetical obviously, as I don't think he'd even entertain a move to us at this moment in time.
posted on 22/5/24
Of the options above, I'd go for Poch. I'm not his biggest fan but I think he'd be the best fit of those above and I think ETH's race is run
posted on 22/5/24
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Would the Man Utd fans take Alonso if he was available?
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I would. I know he played for Liverpool but at the end of the day, I've never found him dislikable. More importantly, he's doing a great job at Bayern and if he wanted to come to United, we'd be stupid not to go for him. Of course, if results weren't great at any time his playing past would definitely be mentioned quicker than if he hadn't played for Liverpool. So that would probably be a barrier to him wanting to come.
Hypothetical obviously, as I don't think he'd even entertain a move to us at this moment in time.
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*Great job at Bayer Leverkusen, not Bayern obviously
posted on 22/5/24
Its like tag team wrestling on here sometimes
posted on 22/5/24
Yes I've changed my mind from pro ETH to anti and then back again.
But I had reasons for it which I posted on here.
I don't see anything wrong in that. There isn't a prize for sticking to one opinion.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
Yes I've changed my mind from pro ETH to anti and then back again.
But I had reasons for it which I posted on here.
I don't see anything wrong in that. There isn't a prize for sticking to one opinion.
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Of course everyone has the right to change their mind. But the fact that you seem to lack certainty on whether you want ETH to stay perhaps suggests that he isn't the right guy for us?
We are all different, but I have felt for a while he ain't the right guy. He honestly just looks lost and the players aren't responding to him.
Even if everyone was fit, the way we have played this season almost negates that, being so open etc. If we were losing because players weren't of a certain standard due to injuries etc, I could accept that, but we are so open in the way we play that it's our style of play that is costing us, regardless of personnel available, and that is really on ETH.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 44 minutes ago
Yes I've changed my mind from pro ETH to anti and then back again.
But I had reasons for it which I posted on here.
I don't see anything wrong in that. There isn't a prize for sticking to one opinion.
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Agree. I won't be upset if ETH leaves, but I also have sympathy for the situation he's faced this season.
posted on 22/5/24
"Agree. I won't be upset if ETH leaves, but I also have sympathy for the situation he's faced this season. "
Yep, done plenty wrong but has had to also deal with a stupid number of injuries (maybe he's partly to blame for them, not sure tbh) as well as the usual sh-tshow from this club. Saying that I've never warmed to EtH, he seems quite an odd bloke.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
"Agree. I won't be upset if ETH leaves, but I also have sympathy for the situation he's faced this season. "
Yep, done plenty wrong but has had to also deal with a stupid number of injuries (maybe he's partly to blame for them, not sure tbh) as well as the usual sh-tshow from this club. Saying that I've never warmed to EtH, he seems quite an odd bloke.
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He's certainly odd
I guess as a fan I always tie myself to a utopia where our managers can turn things around.
The only one I've never warmed to at all is Jose.
posted on 22/5/24
Steve Clarke
posted on 22/5/24
I don't think any of the managers have settled in and felt like the right man at any point. Ole had the connection to the club and the players for a while were on his side but was never convinced he had the balls or the know how to be a manager as such as big club. I feel like the club has also been too big a job for EtH, as it was for Moyes while LVG and Jose were both mental and long past their best.
Obviously a lot of issues out of all of the managers hands that have contributedmassively to our failings in recent years.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
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Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
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This was ETH second year. Its a squad game now, i dont think having a thin squad and injuries is a valid reason after 2 big summer transfer spends.
NUFC and Chelsea both had horrendous injuries this season and turned it around. May be their upturn in form coincided with players coming back but when United had less injuries, their form wasnt great. Your start to the season was poor despite having most players available. And its a second season in a row where you gaol scoring has been in the 50s, comfortably the worst in the top 6 and last season you had an in form Rashford. This points to more than missing or poor form of individuals.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
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This was ETH second year. Its a squad game now, i dont think having a thin squad and injuries is a valid reason after 2 big summer transfer spends.
NUFC and Chelsea both had horrendous injuries this season and turned it around. May be their upturn in form coincided with players coming back but when United had less injuries, their form wasnt great. Your start to the season was poor despite having most players available. And its a second season in a row where you gaol scoring has been in the 50s, comfortably the worst in the top 6 and last season you had an in form Rashford. This points to more than missing or poor form of individuals.
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It's.not.ALL.doen to.injuries, but ours were so bad, that it had a huge impact on our season.
I was discussing this with 2 Liverpool.supporting mates, and to make my point I asked them to name any 3 fixtures between us and those that finished above us, so I could list the players unavailable for those fixtures.
They eventually accepted we have had rotten luck with injuries.
posted on 22/5/24
All depends which players are injured though and losing Martinez for us was huge. Even with 2 summer windows to improve things the squad needed huge improvements, although we haven't done particularly well recruiting over that period.
Of the 7 players EtH has bought 3 have been out for a substantial amount of time (Martinez, Mount and Malacia) while the other 4 are Hojlund (who's a kid and shouldnt be leading the line for us), Onana (who has improved a little in recent months), Casemiro (who decided to not be a footballer this season) and Antony (who you could argue was never a footballer to begin with).
posted on 22/5/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 7 minutes ago
All depends which players are injured though and losing Martinez for us was huge. Even with 2 summer windows to improve things the squad needed huge improvements, although we haven't done particularly well recruiting over that period.
Of the 7 players EtH has bought 3 have been out for a substantial amount of time (Martinez, Mount and Malacia) while the other 4 are Hojlund (who's a kid and shouldnt be leading the line for us), Onana (who has improved a little in recent months), Casemiro (who decided to not be a footballer this season) and Antony (who you could argue was never a footballer to begin with).
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Chelsea have had to rely on an awful Jackson, a 37 yo CB, garbage like Cucurella, on their 3rd keeper of the season.
I think a team can cave in to injuries and accept it as an excuse and that comes down to the manager IMO.
Yes you will only achieve so much with a big injury list but United still under performed IMO and what is worse is that many of them showed very little character when faced with this adversity.
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, managers and teams have bad seasons, this may have just been Ten Hahs bag season. We’ve certainly had our share of bad luck.
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Don't think it's just this season. We've been pretty awful since winning the Carabao Cup. We stumbled over the line into CL. If the season had gone on for another few weeks we'd have been in big big trouble as we had totally fallen off.
Something isn't right with the coaching set up. After two years we should be watching more coherent football than what is being served up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our season largely derailed due to Rashfords lack of form and losing our defensive partnership who had largely been fantastic for the whole season. As we know, outside of our preferred 11 or 12, the drop off in quality and shared attributes is huge. The squad is thin.
Even this season, when Martinez played you could see a difference, 3/4 starters could change the team.
I agree with the last statement, but again have sympathy as we've only fielding our best 11 once all season.
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This was ETH second year. Its a squad game now, i dont think having a thin squad and injuries is a valid reason after 2 big summer transfer spends.
NUFC and Chelsea both had horrendous injuries this season and turned it around. May be their upturn in form coincided with players coming back but when United had less injuries, their form wasnt great. Your start to the season was poor despite having most players available. And its a second season in a row where you gaol scoring has been in the 50s, comfortably the worst in the top 6 and last season you had an in form Rashford. This points to more than missing or poor form of individuals.
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I don't think you understand the extent of the injury list. Over 65, some including months on the side line for starters including Shaw, Martinez, Casemiro, Martial left us with one striker, Mount missed essentially the whole season, Mainoo was out for the first half of the season, I could go on.
Not to mention Sancho left mid season (maybe the managers fault?) and Greenwood was pulled from the squad last minute.
No manager in football was getting this squad in the CL.
posted on 22/5/24
We had several.key players out at any 1 time.throughout the season, plus others.
For large periods we have had no LB, been forced to use Jonny Evans at CB, Casemiro, Mount barely featuring.
posted on 22/5/24
14 different CB combinations and 31 overall defensive combinations I think.
posted on 22/5/24
"Chelsea have had to rely on an awful Jackson, a 37 yo CB, garbage like Cucurella, on their 3rd keeper of the season."
Jackson has actually been pretty good this season and his style has complimented Palmer well while also scoring and assisting quite a bit. Thiago Silva is Chelsea's first choice CB and has also been very good this season. Cucurella isn't that bad, even so, he isn't playing regularly for Chelsea I don't think. Not really sure what this has to do with United and 3 of EtH's 7 signings being out for pretty much all of the season though.
posted on 22/5/24
Southgate Tuchel and Poch... Miserable options
posted on 22/5/24
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 10 minutes ago
Southgate Tuchel and Poch... Miserable options
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