comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by House - (U17162)
posted 2 minutes ago
No it was offside. Maybe the FA can look to implement some kind of rule change for next season but right now it is offside, as annoying as it is.
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You mean implement a law whereby referees and/or their assistants subjectively decide that a goal is given if an offside player scores a goal if they believe a goal would have been scored anyhow had the offside player not scored?

That would be fun to watch at least.
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I've not actually seen a goal like yesterday's happen before so it is a weird one.
Of course I've seen deliberate ones. One springs to mind when Ronaldo chipped a keeper for Portugal and Nani deliberately put it over the line while offside.
Scenarios like the above should be offside, as it was deliberate.
Scenarios like yesterday, no, a player having no control over him sliding 5 metres because of the weather and accidentally touching a ball that was going in the goal anyway, I think there is a shout for some sort of rule change for those. I would think the same had it been Brighton denied a goal for that too.
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It has happened loads of times and it would be absolutely ridiculous for a goal to be given when a player scores when offside.

Even implementing it would be ridiculous with several subjective decisions needed to be taken into account. The main two being was the shot on target before the offside player scored? Did the defending team have no chance of stopping it going in if the offside player didn't score? Then you have subjective decisions around what the defending team would have been doing had the player not been offside, ie interfering/being active in the play. For example would the keeper and defence have left the middle and went after the player who effectively assisted, rather than worry about the middle where the offside player scored from?

It would be ridiculous to allow players to score when offside but the circus around checking the goal and all the subjective decisions that need taken would be equally so.

The idea is to take out subjectivity not increase it.
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It's obvious that the current ruling is bollox because so many non united fans are agreeing it was extremely unlucky to not have gotten the goal.

The current rules for offside are ridiculous and it has been over complicated, simplified, over complicated, simplified and so on over the years that it's just so pathetic these days that everyone has forgotten what offside was actually created for, to stop people goal hanging.

Even if my most disliked club, Liverpool, were denied that goal I'd still be disagreeing with the current rulings.

Agree with me or not, but that's how I feel.


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How do you feel about penalties? An automatic goal being given for a minor foul that was in no way stopping a goal?

I'm thinking about things like when a player snaps another players leg in half by complete accident, it doesn't always result in a red card even though you've basically just destroyed a good portion of the opposition players career.

Why is that? Because it's not always so black and white.

Meh.

... and it's also called false equivalence.

How about corners? Seems a bit ridiculous that a minor and unintentional touch off a defender that goes out miles away from the goal can result in the opposition being given a fantastic opportunity to score. Getting all of their players in to the box, when previously they were in a completely non threatening position with no players in the opposing box?

How do you feel about penalties? An automatic goal being given for a minor foul that was in no way stopping a goal?
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Depends on the scenario

comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
How about corners? Seems a bit ridiculous that a minor and unintentional touch off a defender that goes out miles away from the goal can result in the opposition being given a fantastic opportunity to score. Getting all of their players in to the box, when previously they were in a completely non threatening position with no players in the opposing box?
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How about goals? Why do we give the opposition the ball after we score?
Surely we should be able to carry on using the ball after it's been put in the net. The scorer should be able to take the ball out of the net with his feet (not hands) and pass it back to a midfielder to carry on the onslaught. It never made sense to me that we always give the ball back it's like "here we scored, your turn now", it's too nice, the world is too woke.

Unintentional own goals should also be ruled out if the ball was not already going in. It is massively unlucky if the ball just happens to randomly hit off you and go in the direction of the goal, resulting in a goal. That doesn't really go with the spirit of the game where the aim is for players to score into the opposition net.

comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 27 seconds ago
Unintentional own goals should also be ruled out if the ball was not already going in. It is massively unlucky if the ball just happens to randomly hit off you and go in the direction of the goal, resulting in a goal. That doesn't really go with the spirit of the game where the aim is for players to score into the opposition net.
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The team scoring a deflected goal should have 0.5 goals not 1 goal. It's not a proper goal so shouldn't count as 1 goal. Therefore when the other team scores a proper goal they will be winning 1 - 0.5

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 3 minutes ago
How do you feel about penalties? An automatic goal being given for a minor foul that was in no way stopping a goal?
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Depends on the scenario

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Penalties are black and white. It's either a penalty or not.

If goals worked on decimals, it would be much easier to calculate expected goals 0.27 and so on.
Maybe once we move to having 0.5 goals, we could progress on to 0.33 for penalties after winning it through diving.

Also think football stats are too offensive based and are focused more on the attackers. A better stat to use would be unexpected lack of goals which would show how well the keeper and defenders are doing to keep the ball out.

Expected goals puts emphasis on the fact that it's the forward players' responsibility to put the ball in the back of the net but not the defending players' responsibility to keep it out.

Also I think the geometry of the pitch is ridiculous. In a world where we have 90% of the population being right footed and only 10% being left footed, we have an equal amount of space on the right hand side of the pitch as on the left side. Surely a fair geometry of a pitch would be 90% right side of pitch, with the goal positioned 9/10ths the way over towards the left hand side of the pitch so the remaining side of the pitch to the other side of the goal is only 10% of the width, so that small minority of left footed players are accommodated. I am sick of them pandering to minorities.

6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?

It was so funny to see Utd getting goals ruled out because, unlike during Fergis times, officials now do apply the rule as it should be.

Great to see that <applause.

comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?
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Why do we use grass?
Money could be saved here in multiple places, one being the grass, two the water to maintain the grass, three the staff to maintain the grass and four the amount of ecosystems we must the destroying by playing football on the grass, what about the ants and other such bugs who have made homes there?
Players should play on concrete, it'll require much less maintenance and the cost overhead would be massively lower.

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?
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Why do we use grass?
Money could be saved here in multiple places, one being the grass, two the water to maintain the grass, three the staff to maintain the grass and four the amount of ecosystems we must the destroying by playing football on the grass, what about the ants and other such bugs who have made homes there?
Players should play on concrete, it'll require much less maintenance and the cost overhead would be massively lower.
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Wtf are you on about?

comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?
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Why do we use grass?
Money could be saved here in multiple places, one being the grass, two the water to maintain the grass, three the staff to maintain the grass and four the amount of ecosystems we must the destroying by playing football on the grass, what about the ants and other such bugs who have made homes there?
Players should play on concrete, it'll require much less maintenance and the cost overhead would be massively lower.
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Wtf are you on about?
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The government is cost cutting in the wrong places.
Have players play on concrete and save billions a year maintaining grass in stadiums across the globe.
There should be a central world government where great leaders such as Putin and trump should put plans into place for the good of the planet.
Think of the amount of water that can be diverted from stadium's to poor countries in need.
The possibilities are endless.

comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 19 minutes ago
6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?
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A team can't take a FK inside the opposition's 6yd box, those lines are vitally important.

Imagine writing that

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
As unlucky as it was it was offside.

Perhaps it's not used in the way it was initially intended, as Brighton weren't disadvantaged, but it would have been ridiculous to award the goal. Hopefully we get a bit of luck back next weekend.
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I'd say this actually cancelled out the luck last weekend when it hit Zirkzee and went in

I agree with the OP on this one, and I’d say the same if it were any other club. Sometimes the laws just need some common sense, unfortunately that isn’t a remit given to the officials.

It was the same as that Ronaldo disallowed goal for Portugal that would have been his greatest ever goal but Nani put it in on the line when he was offside. Should that have stood?

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?
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Why do we use grass?
Money could be saved here in multiple places, one being the grass, two the water to maintain the grass, three the staff to maintain the grass and four the amount of ecosystems we must the destroying by playing football on the grass, what about the ants and other such bugs who have made homes there?
Players should play on concrete, it'll require much less maintenance and the cost overhead would be massively lower.
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Concrete would stop diving too.

comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
6 yard boxes. What do they even do? Is having somewhere to place the ball for a goal kick really worthy of a box on every pitch around the country? What do the sides of the 6 yard box even do?

Could we not just say the keeper takes the goal kick roughly six yards from the goal line and we save trillions of gallons of paint over hundreds of years across the country?
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Why do we use grass?
Money could be saved here in multiple places, one being the grass, two the water to maintain the grass, three the staff to maintain the grass and four the amount of ecosystems we must the destroying by playing football on the grass, what about the ants and other such bugs who have made homes there?
Players should play on concrete, it'll require much less maintenance and the cost overhead would be massively lower.
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Wtf are you on about?
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The government is cost cutting in the wrong places.
Have players play on concrete and save billions a year maintaining grass in stadiums across the globe.
There should be a central world government where great leaders such as Putin and trump should put plans into place for the good of the planet.
Think of the amount of water that can be diverted from stadium's to poor countries in need.
The possibilities are endless.
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😂😂😂 I like it

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