I dont think on this subject, she represents the view of any well thinking person.
Best to ignore her
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posted 2 minutes ago
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
Whether the comments are ridiculous depend on context, I suppose. Is she arguing that Juventus should be paying her the same amount as it pays her boyfriend? I don't know, but I suspect not. Maybe she's pointing out that a 100-fold difference is pretty extreme, given the examples of many other sports (where market forces also operate) where the best female athletes can get rich, just like the best male athletes.
One can point to the lack of interest in women's football on the part of the viewing public, lack of money generated by the women's game, etc. For that reason, of course it's not viable and quite absurd to demand equal pay. But I think the story is incomplete unless we remind ourselves that women's football was *organically* popular in the pre-war period, drawing large crowds, before the men running the game decided that women shouldn't be playing football. Our sport's administrators at domestic and international level have been at best indifferent, sometimes outright hostile, to enabling girls to play football at youth level, facilitating professional female leagues, let alone actively promoting the women's sport. This culture prevailed for decades, right down to attitudes in the male-dominated stands, guffawing commentators, and TV directors picking out close-ups of random hot women in the stadium (which I confess I never minded). It seems that the recent renaissance in women's football has demonstrated that there is an appetite to watch the sport. Barcelona have attracted huge crowds. A lot of girls in this country are avid supporters. Seems as though quite a lot of them attend matches with dads. Maybe women's football will gather a distinct support base.
In short, I don't think salary parity is realistic, and there's no short cut to building up the sport to become a commercial behemoth like men's football. But after decades of marginalising women in football and happily winning cheap laughs at its expense, I feel like we dudes could do with being a bit more humble in these discussions.
whodumbtit making an absolute clown of himself as usual
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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But women in general just aren't interested in sports the same as men are, same goes with videogames and movies franchises like Star Wars, comic books etc, yet they keep trying to pander to them and wonder why they keep losing money...because that audience just isn't there.
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posted 21 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
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of course you could and I did, the point im making is that the reason its not as popular is cos women aint interested, its their fault.
But the original point was missed, the quotes are all broken up, good chance there is a lot of perspective in those parts missing.
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posted 21 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
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of course you could and I did, the point im making is that the reason its not as popular is cos women aint interested, its their fault.
But the original point was missed, the quotes are all broken up, good chance there is a lot of perspective in those parts missing.
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Well I wouldn’t blame women for it. I’d also be pretty certain that far more women support men’s football than women’s football.
My own wife watches Rugby and Hurling but she wouldn’t watch a women’s match in a month of Sundays.
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posted 21 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
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of course you could and I did, the point im making is that the reason its not as popular is cos women aint interested, its their fault.
But the original point was missed, the quotes are all broken up, good chance there is a lot of perspective in those parts missing.
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Well I wouldn’t blame women for it. I’d also be pretty certain that far more women support men’s football than women’s football.
My own wife watches Rugby and Hurling but she wouldn’t watch a women’s match in a month of Sundays.
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kl story, do you have the original source for these quotes?
If she can’t stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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yeah but its not as good (in most peoples opinions). Female models are more popular than males. Not everything needs to be 50/50
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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yeah but its not as good (in most peoples opinions). Female models are more popular than males. Not everything needs to be 50/50
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then get more females playing the best sport in the world, make the talent pool bigger. It can be as big, the reason it isnt lies with the women
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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posted 41 seconds ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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exactly my point
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posted 6 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 58 minutes ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
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How many, then?
Aren't these quotes fake?
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Aren't these quotes fake?
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the way the OP has them being portrayed is
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comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 58 minutes ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
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How many, then?
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There's no place more precarious than the being a socially conservative white man these days.
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posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 19 seconds ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
And their opinions are just as valid as yours on this topic.
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Not sure how anyone could find her comments logical but if someone has that opinion I’d like to hear why.
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Maybe because WSL clubs now make far more than 1% of the revenue of their PL counterparts, coupled with the fact that the women’s game is growing ten times as fast in the UK as the men’s game? (50% growth in 2022/23 alone.)
There’s a significant adjustment coming. One of two things will happen: the top English players will all leave to play in the US, Spain and France; or the PL parent clubs of the top WSL sides will start ponying up recognising the explosive growth and potential in the game. My money is on the second of those two.
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posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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Sorry; where did she say that not being paid the same as her husband “isn’t fair”?
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comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 19 seconds ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
And their opinions are just as valid as yours on this topic.
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Not sure how anyone could find her comments logical but if someone has that opinion I’d like to hear why.
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Maybe because WSL clubs now make far more than 1% of the revenue of their PL counterparts, coupled with the fact that the women’s game is growing ten times as fast in the UK as the men’s game? (50% growth in 2022/23 alone.)
There’s a significant adjustment coming. One of two things will happen: the top English players will all leave to play in the US, Spain and France; or the PL parent clubs of the top WSL sides will start ponying up recognising the explosive growth and potential in the game. My money is on the second of those two.
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The average WSL club makes 4m a year in revenue, last year. Thats 12 clubs making a total £50m.
https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/services/financial-advisory/research/annual-review-of-football-finance-womens-super-league.html
PL clubs made a total of over £6bn, an average of about £320m.
(both 22/23 figures).
So thats about 1.5% so hardly "far more than 1%".
And to cite that the women's game is growing faster than the men's is is like saying my 12 year old son is growing infinitely faster than me.
While the female game may have increased 50% in the WSL that equates to revenues of about £15m. The PL revenues went from about 5.5bn to 6bn to 22/23.
Your comparison is totally false and misleading.
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posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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Sorry; where did she say that not being paid the same as her husband “isn’t fair”?
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In the op
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While the female game may have increased 50% in the WSL that equates to revenues of about £15m. The PL revenues went from about 5.5bn to 6bn to 22/23.
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according to deloitte:
avg revenue per pl club in 22/23: £303m
avg revenue per wsl club in 22/23: £4m
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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Sorry; where did she say that not being paid the same as her husband “isn’t fair”?
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In the op
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Read it again.
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posted on 16/9/24
I dont think on this subject, she represents the view of any well thinking person.
Best to ignore her
posted on 16/9/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
posted on 16/9/24
Whether the comments are ridiculous depend on context, I suppose. Is she arguing that Juventus should be paying her the same amount as it pays her boyfriend? I don't know, but I suspect not. Maybe she's pointing out that a 100-fold difference is pretty extreme, given the examples of many other sports (where market forces also operate) where the best female athletes can get rich, just like the best male athletes.
One can point to the lack of interest in women's football on the part of the viewing public, lack of money generated by the women's game, etc. For that reason, of course it's not viable and quite absurd to demand equal pay. But I think the story is incomplete unless we remind ourselves that women's football was *organically* popular in the pre-war period, drawing large crowds, before the men running the game decided that women shouldn't be playing football. Our sport's administrators at domestic and international level have been at best indifferent, sometimes outright hostile, to enabling girls to play football at youth level, facilitating professional female leagues, let alone actively promoting the women's sport. This culture prevailed for decades, right down to attitudes in the male-dominated stands, guffawing commentators, and TV directors picking out close-ups of random hot women in the stadium (which I confess I never minded). It seems that the recent renaissance in women's football has demonstrated that there is an appetite to watch the sport. Barcelona have attracted huge crowds. A lot of girls in this country are avid supporters. Seems as though quite a lot of them attend matches with dads. Maybe women's football will gather a distinct support base.
In short, I don't think salary parity is realistic, and there's no short cut to building up the sport to become a commercial behemoth like men's football. But after decades of marginalising women in football and happily winning cheap laughs at its expense, I feel like we dudes could do with being a bit more humble in these discussions.
posted on 16/9/24
whodumbtit making an absolute clown of himself as usual
posted on 16/9/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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But women in general just aren't interested in sports the same as men are, same goes with videogames and movies franchises like Star Wars, comic books etc, yet they keep trying to pander to them and wonder why they keep losing money...because that audience just isn't there.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
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of course you could and I did, the point im making is that the reason its not as popular is cos women aint interested, its their fault.
But the original point was missed, the quotes are all broken up, good chance there is a lot of perspective in those parts missing.
posted on 16/9/24
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 21 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
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of course you could and I did, the point im making is that the reason its not as popular is cos women aint interested, its their fault.
But the original point was missed, the quotes are all broken up, good chance there is a lot of perspective in those parts missing.
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Well I wouldn’t blame women for it. I’d also be pretty certain that far more women support men’s football than women’s football.
My own wife watches Rugby and Hurling but she wouldn’t watch a women’s match in a month of Sundays.
posted on 16/9/24
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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You could say something like that about literally anything. If the product isn’t good enough, it won’t attract the popularity.
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of course you could and I did, the point im making is that the reason its not as popular is cos women aint interested, its their fault.
But the original point was missed, the quotes are all broken up, good chance there is a lot of perspective in those parts missing.
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Well I wouldn’t blame women for it. I’d also be pretty certain that far more women support men’s football than women’s football.
My own wife watches Rugby and Hurling but she wouldn’t watch a women’s match in a month of Sundays.
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kl story, do you have the original source for these quotes?
posted on 16/9/24
If she can’t stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen
posted on 16/9/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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yeah but its not as good (in most peoples opinions). Female models are more popular than males. Not everything needs to be 50/50
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 28 seconds ago
Its all cut up quotes, not seen or read the original source and whether or not there is parts of it missing.
If she is talking about the game should be as popular as the mens game and thats the reason then she has a point.
If its that for what they do just now and the popularity of the womens game then she is talkig the usual pi$h
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Why should the women’s game be as popular as the men’s game?
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Cos is there is enough women on earth to make it as popular.
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yeah but its not as good (in most peoples opinions). Female models are more popular than males. Not everything needs to be 50/50
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then get more females playing the best sport in the world, make the talent pool bigger. It can be as big, the reason it isnt lies with the women
posted on 16/9/24
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 41 seconds ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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exactly my point
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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posted on 16/9/24
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 58 minutes ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
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How many, then?
posted on 16/9/24
Aren't these quotes fake?
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 56 seconds ago
Aren't these quotes fake?
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the way the OP has them being portrayed is
posted on 16/9/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 58 minutes ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
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How many, then?
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There's no place more precarious than the being a socially conservative white man these days.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 19 seconds ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
And their opinions are just as valid as yours on this topic.
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Not sure how anyone could find her comments logical but if someone has that opinion I’d like to hear why.
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Maybe because WSL clubs now make far more than 1% of the revenue of their PL counterparts, coupled with the fact that the women’s game is growing ten times as fast in the UK as the men’s game? (50% growth in 2022/23 alone.)
There’s a significant adjustment coming. One of two things will happen: the top English players will all leave to play in the US, Spain and France; or the PL parent clubs of the top WSL sides will start ponying up recognising the explosive growth and potential in the game. My money is on the second of those two.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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Sorry; where did she say that not being paid the same as her husband “isn’t fair”?
posted on 16/9/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 19 seconds ago
Be careful OP, this site leans very far to one side and you’ll be surprised how many here find her comments to be very logical!
And their opinions are just as valid as yours on this topic.
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Not sure how anyone could find her comments logical but if someone has that opinion I’d like to hear why.
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Maybe because WSL clubs now make far more than 1% of the revenue of their PL counterparts, coupled with the fact that the women’s game is growing ten times as fast in the UK as the men’s game? (50% growth in 2022/23 alone.)
There’s a significant adjustment coming. One of two things will happen: the top English players will all leave to play in the US, Spain and France; or the PL parent clubs of the top WSL sides will start ponying up recognising the explosive growth and potential in the game. My money is on the second of those two.
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The average WSL club makes 4m a year in revenue, last year. Thats 12 clubs making a total £50m.
https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/services/financial-advisory/research/annual-review-of-football-finance-womens-super-league.html
PL clubs made a total of over £6bn, an average of about £320m.
(both 22/23 figures).
So thats about 1.5% so hardly "far more than 1%".
And to cite that the women's game is growing faster than the men's is is like saying my 12 year old son is growing infinitely faster than me.
While the female game may have increased 50% in the WSL that equates to revenues of about £15m. The PL revenues went from about 5.5bn to 6bn to 22/23.
Your comparison is totally false and misleading.
posted on 16/9/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
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But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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Sorry; where did she say that not being paid the same as her husband “isn’t fair”?
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In the op
posted on 16/9/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
While the female game may have increased 50% in the WSL that equates to revenues of about £15m. The PL revenues went from about 5.5bn to 6bn to 22/23.
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according to deloitte:
avg revenue per pl club in 22/23: £303m
avg revenue per wsl club in 22/23: £4m
posted on 16/9/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Not sure if this is the same quote, slightly different wording, but in the one below firstly it's in response to a question, and secondly she's explicitly acknowledging that it's not a realistic expectation in the present, but something that would 'take a long time' to reach.
Alisha Lehmann was asked if she would like to have equal pay, and she said, "Everyone would like to, I often talk to Douglas after training and always tell him that the current situation is not right. We do the same job, but he earns a hundred thousand times more than I do; as a woman, it's a topic that concerns me. I believe it will take a long time to reach the goal, but this is clearly the way to go. Probably the women's World Cup was the fifth most viewed sporting event in the world. More than Super Bowl, crazy!"
...is it possible this is something that was taken out of context and shared around the internet to get a lot of blokes jumping on their hobby horses?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the key part is that she thinks that her not being paid the say "isnt fair". Her words.
This demonstrates a lack of understanding that football wages come down to economics .
I may be misjudging this lass who on her insta page poses in bikinis and does footy tricks wearing not a lot, but on the balance of probability i dont not think her fairness comment is pointing to the oppression of the women's game in the 50s as the reason she cannot earn what her BF does.
And while that may be a valid point, there exists a fundamental difference between the men and women that mean men are far more inclined to participate in competitive sport in a beyond logical tribal way. How many websites are there like this with men obsessing about football in their masses.
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Sorry; where did she say that not being paid the same as her husband “isn’t fair”?
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In the op
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Read it again.
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